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Re: [Fot] Billet crank and 1500 spitfire engine

To: "fot@autox.team.net" <fot@autox.team.net>, "sbarr@mccarty-law.com" <sbarr@mccarty-law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Billet crank and 1500 spitfire engine
From: Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 22:28:47 +0000 (UTC)
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FADING AWAY NOT TOO QUICKLY I HOPE!!!!


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From: John H. Hasty via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: Barr, Scott <sbarr@mccarty-law.com>
Cc: Amici Triumphi <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Nov 17, 2021 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Billet crank and 1500 spitfire engine

Heck Scott, we old lawyers don=E2=80=99t retire, like old soldiers we just =
fade away!

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On Nov 17, 2021, at 5:19 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote=
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Jerry Barker also did a nice 1500 crank for me, based on a stock unit.=C2=
=A0 It=E2=80=99s done with all the mods described in the Kas manual article=
 on the topic.=C2=A0 Cross-drilled, etc.=C2=A0 I paired it some Carrillo ro=
ds and JE pistons for a nice solid bottom end that lasted well (but I still=
 changed the rod bearings every 3 race weekends and rods and mains every 6 =
race weekends out of an abundance of caution).=C2=A0 I regularly spun it to=
 at least 6,500.=C2=A0 Probably a bit more than that under Emergency War Po=
wer circumstances.=C2=A0
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And Jerry later did a nice head for me to go with that bottom end.
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Both are sitting in my storage unit awaiting the day I decide to put the ol=
d Spit Racer back on the street.=C2=A0 Some day.=C2=A0 After I retire. =C2=
=A0Probably.
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 =C2=A0
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Scott (B.)
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From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf OfMike Harmuth via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 9:17 AM
To: FoTTriumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Billet crank and 1500 spitfire engine
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Hi FOTers, I'm toying with the idea of building a 1500 race engine for the =
spit. I have the Moldex billet crank in my 1296 race engines and like the s=
moothness created by the "ghost main" style. I know 1500's have a problem r=
evving (and staying together) so I was wondering if anyone has successfully=
 built a 1500 racing engine with one.
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I'm looking because a couple of groups run vintage races in the northeast o=
n very hilly tracks and I'd like more torque. The way they classify cars, a=
 1300 and a 1500 both compete in the same class. If I can get more stroke a=
nd not give up too much top end (like a different diff ratio "provides") I'=
d be willing to give it a try.
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Has anyone found a solution to keeping a 1500 together to 7K (more than onc=
e)?
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thanks
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mike h
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 17, 2021, at 5:19 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot =
&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal">Jerry Barker also did a nice 1500 crank=
 for me, based on a stock unit.&nbsp; It=E2=80=99s done with all the mods d=
escribed in the Kas manual article on the topic.&nbsp; Cross-drilled, etc.&=
nbsp; I paired it some Carrillo rods and JE pistons for a nice solid bottom
 end that lasted well (but I still changed the rod bearings every 3 race we=
ekends and rods and mains every 6 race weekends out of an abundance of caut=
ion).&nbsp; I regularly spun it to at least 6,500.&nbsp; Probably a bit mor=
e than that under Emergency War Power circumstances.&nbsp;
</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal">And Jerry later did a nice head for me =
to go with that bottom end.</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal">Both are sitting in my storage unit awa=
iting the day I decide to put the old Spit Racer back on the street.&nbsp; =
Some day.&nbsp; After I retire. &nbsp;Probably.</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal">Scott (B.)</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot &lt;fot-bounces@autox.=
team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Mike Harmuth via Fot<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 17, 2021 9:17 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> FoTTriumph &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> [Fot] Billet crank and 1500 spitfire engine</p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal">Hi FOTers, I'm toying with the idea of =
building a 1500 race engine for the spit. I have the Moldex billet crank in=
 my 1296 race engines and like the smoothness created by the "ghost main" s=
tyle. I know 1500's have a problem revving (and
 staying together) so I was wondering if anyone has successfully built a 15=
00 racing engine with one.</p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal">I'm looking because a couple of groups =
run vintage races in the northeast on very hilly tracks and I'd like more t=
orque. The way they classify cars, a 1300 and a 1500 both compete in the sa=
me class. If I can get more stroke and not give
 up too much top end (like a different diff ratio "provides") I'd be willin=
g to give it a try.</p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal">Has anyone found a solution to keeping =
a 1500 together to 7K (more than once)?</p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal">thanks</p>=20
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<p class=3D"yiv3104531820MsoNormal">mike h</p>=20
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