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Re: [Fot] Fw: TR6 steel synchros

To: Rick Parent <rick.parent@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: TR6 steel synchros
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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2022 12:21:23 -0400
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Brad,  assuming you have stock gear sets, Rick's steel synchros will fit
all Spitfire gearboxes except those with serial numbers starting with FC or
FD.  Here's a good listing of serial numbers:

http://www.amicalespitfire.org/technique/tableaux/serial.php

Definitely check to see what's inside though.  Have found many race
gearboxes that have been modified (GT6 gearing etc.)

Cheers, Dave



On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 11:37 AM Rick Parent via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi Brad
>
> The Synchro's fit all the single rail transmissions and all the Spit /GT6
> transmissions that use the "larger" Synchro's. They will not fit the earl=
y
> transmissions with the "small" synchro's
>
> Same size as Moss part number 071-330
>
> will not fit Moss part number 847-205
>
> Rick Parent
>
> "*Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of
> consequences*"
>
>
>
> On Sunday, June 5, 2022, 01:49:28 PM MST, Brad Eells <tr4abrad@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Rick,
>
> Can you clarify for Spitfire racers: These synchros fit later single rail
> boxes only, or 3 rail boxes as well?
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 5, 2022, at 2:29 PM, R. John Lye via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> Thanks for making these available Rick.  I don't have a need for any at
> the moment, but will certainly purchase them when I get into my trans
> the next time.
>
> John
>
> On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 17:55:41 +0000 (UTC), Rick Parent via Fot <
> fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> These Synchro rings will fit all the Big Triumph transmissions and they
> should be available in 6-8 weeks. I do hope there is more interest in the=
se
> than the Spit / GT6 Synchro's, those sales have been quite underwhelming =
so
> far unfortunately. BPNW is carrying the Spit rings as an FYI.
>
> I believe there is a real need for parts like these because the OEM stuff
> is long gone and todays aftermarket parts are real junk. I am building a
> product line of all sorts of different manufacture's Synchro rings and th=
e
> Triumph rings were first just because I have been involved in with racing
> Triumphs for 25 years and have been wishing someone else would have done
> the work and spent the money to develop parts like this. It's way easier =
to
> buy parts than go through the expense, development and time not to mentio=
n
> gambling that guys will see the value and buy them and I hope is worth it
> for me to do this. There are many transmission conversions out there now
> and it's mainly because of the synchro issue.
>
> The rings will cost $85 each which is a lot compared to a $15 aftermarket
> ring but they actually work and should be the last rings you will ever
> need. Adding $300 to a transmission build is nothing when you know it's
> going to work and less than nothing when you are considering a $3000-5000
> conversion kit.
>
>
> This is what I have going on at the moment
>
> Spit / GT6 "large" Rings $85 each in stock
> Big Triumph Rings $85 each 6-8 weeks out
> Datsun L series 68-82 by the end of the year
> T10, standard and super, by the end of the year
> Porsche 910 - 2023
> Porsche 915 - 2023
> Muncie M21 / 22 - 2023
> Jaguar E Type - 2023
> T5 - 2023
> T9 - 2023
> BMW 2002, 318, 320 - 2023
>
> If I don't sell enough Triumph rings I will not be making these
>
> MGB ?
> Mini / Sprite ?
>
> Rick Parent
>
> "*Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of
> consequences*"
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 04:34:06 PM MST, Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com=
>
> wrote:
>
>
> Amici,
>
> I've gotten my hands on a set of Rick Parent's steel, carbon faced TR6
> synchros.
>
> Both my race GT6 and my street 2.5L GT6 use the TR6 gearbox; I've been
> following his development with great interest.
>
> I've installed the synchros in the gearbox from my racecar, and am runnin=
g
> that box in my street GT6 for testing purposes prior to Kastner Cup.
>
> They fit well to the gears,  no rocking like the out of round repro
> parts.  Hand fitting to the gears they clearly have a stronger "bite" tha=
n
> even good original parts.
>
> For the past couple days, I've been driving it around like a madman to se=
e
> what they will do.   So far, I'm impressed- they take a ham fisted, non r=
ev
> matched, too fast jam into first gear without any drama.  Fast shifts up
> and down thru the gears feel great too.
>
> I'm awful excited to give them a proper stress test at Pittrace.
>
> I don't have any financial interest in these,  but I am sharing because I
> feel all of us racing with a TR gearbox stand to benifit.
>
>
> Jason Sukey
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Brad,=C2=A0 assuming you have stock gear =
sets, Rick&#39;s steel synchros will fit all Spitfire gearboxes except thos=
e with serial numbers starting with FC or FD.=C2=A0 Here&#39;s a good listi=
ng of serial numbers:</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.amicalespitfire.org/technique/tableaux/serial.php";>http:/=
/www.amicalespitfire.org/technique/tableaux/serial.php</a><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Definitely check to see what&#39;s ins=
ide=C2=A0though.=C2=A0 Have found many race gearboxes that have been modifi=
ed (GT6 gearing etc.)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>Cheers, Dave=
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 11:37 AM Rick Parent v=
ia Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><di=
v style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Brad</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">The Synchro&#39;s fit all the single rail transmissio=
ns and all the Spit /GT6 transmissions that use the &quot;larger&quot; Sync=
hro&#39;s. They will not fit the early transmissions with the &quot;small&q=
uot; synchro&#39;s</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Same si=
ze as Moss part number=C2=A0<span>071-330</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><spa=
n><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>will not fit Moss part number 847=
-205</span></div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,Ar=
ial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr">Rick Parent</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&quot;<i>Doing the right thing is alway=
s the right thing, regardless of consequences</i>&quot;</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div></div></div></div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-5176060363778561824yahoo_quoted_463551535=
6">
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Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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                <div>
                    On Sunday, June 5, 2022, 01:49:28 PM MST, Brad Eells &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:tr4abrad@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">tr4abrad@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-5176060363778561824yiv9495289166">=
<div>Rick,<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Can you clarify for Spitfire r=
acers: These synchros fit later single rail boxes only, or 3 rail boxes as =
well?</div><div><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent fro=
m my iPhone</div></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-5176060363778561824yiv9495289166=
yqt37277"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On =
Jun 5, 2022, at 2:29 PM, R. John Lye via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D=
"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
        </div></blockquote></div></div></div><div 
id=3D"gmail-m_-51760603637785618=
24yiv9495289166yqt06306"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12p=
t;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thanks for making these available Rick.=C2=A0 I don&#39=
;t have a need for any at<br clear=3D"none">
the moment, but will certainly purchase them when I get into my trans<br cl=
ear=3D"none">
the next time.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
John
 =C2=A0=20

<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<span>On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 17:55:41 +0000 (UTC), Rick Parent via Fot &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&=
gt; wrote:</span><br clear=3D"none">
=C2=A0
<div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>

<div><span style=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42)">These Synchro rings will fit all t=
he Big Triumph transmissions and they should be available in 6-8 weeks. I d=
o hope there is more interest in these than the Spit / GT6 Synchro&#39;s, t=
hose sales have been quite underwhelming so far unfortunately. BPNW is carr=
ying the Spit rings as an FYI.</span></div>
</div>

<div id=3D"gmail-m_-5176060363778561824yiv9495289166ydp8fb44c19yahoo_quoted=
_5155388950">
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:16px">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I believe there is a real need for parts like these becaus=
e the OEM stuff is long gone and todays aftermarket parts are real junk. I =
am building a product line of all sorts of different manufacture&#39;s Sync=
hro rings and the Triumph rings were first just because I have been involve=
d in with racing Triumphs for 25 years and have been wishing someone else w=
ould have done the work and spent the money to develop parts like this. It&=
#39;s way easier to buy parts than go through the expense, development and =
time not to mention gambling that guys will see the value and buy them and =
I hope is worth it for me to do this. There are many transmission conversio=
ns out there now and it&#39;s mainly because of the synchro issue.=C2=A0</d=
iv>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">The rings will cost $85 each which is a lot compared to a =
$15 aftermarket ring but they actually work and should be the last rings yo=
u will ever need. Adding $300 to a transmission build is nothing when you k=
now it&#39;s going to work and less than nothing when you are considering a=
 $3000-5000 conversion kit.</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">This is what I have going on at the moment</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Spit / GT6 &quot;large&quot; Rings $85 each in stock</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Big Triumph Rings $85 each 6-8 weeks out</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Datsun L series 68-82 by the end of the year</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">T10, standard and super, by the end of the year</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Porsche 910 - 2023</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Porsche 915 - 2023</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Muncie M21 / 22 - 2023</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Jaguar E Type - 2023</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">T5 - 2023</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">T9 - 2023</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">BMW 2002, 318, 320 - 2023</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">If I don&#39;t sell enough Triumph rings I will not be mak=
ing these</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">MGB ?</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Mini / Sprite ?</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Rick Parent</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">&quot;<i>Doing the right thing is always the right thing, =
regardless of consequences</i>&quot;</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>

<div>=C2=A0</div>

<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>

<div id=3D"gmail-m_-5176060363778561824yiv9495289166ydp8fb44c19yahoo_quoted=
_5174736160">
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
<div>On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 04:34:06 PM MST, Jason Sukey &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:jsukey@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">jsukey@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:=
</div>

<div>=C2=A0</div>

<div>=C2=A0</div>

<div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-5176060363778561824yiv9495289166ydp8fb44c19yiv040454915=
0">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Amici,</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve gotten my hands on a set of Rick Parent&#39;s ste=
el, carbon faced TR6 synchros.</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Both my race GT6 and my street 2.5L GT6 use the TR6 gearbo=
x; I&#39;ve been following his development with great interest.=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve installed the synchros in the gearbox from my rac=
ecar, and am running that box in my street GT6 for testing purposes prior t=
o Kastner Cup.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">They fit well to the gears,=C2=A0 no rocking like the out =
of round repro parts.=C2=A0 Hand fitting to the gears they clearly have a s=
tronger &quot;bite&quot; than even good original parts.</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">For the past couple days, I&#39;ve been driving it around =
like a madman to see what they will do.=C2=A0 =C2=A0So far, I&#39;m impress=
ed- they take a ham fisted, non rev matched, too fast jam into first gear w=
ithout any drama.=C2=A0 Fast shifts up and down thru the gears feel great t=
oo.</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m awful excited to give them a proper stress test at=
 Pittrace.</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I don&#39;t have any financial interest in these,=C2=A0 bu=
t I am sharing because I feel all of us racing with a TR gearbox stand to b=
enifit.</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Jason Sukey=C2=A0</div>
</div>
</div>
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