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Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup.

To: "John H. Hasty" <jhasty@mhc-law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup.
From: DENNIS WALJE via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2023 19:12:27 -0500
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COTA would be a great venue

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> On Jul 26, 2023, at 5:58 PM, John H. Hasty via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Henry: One other thing that is important, at least to me, is the Track.  
> The quality of the track makes a big difference, I would think, especially 
> for those who are facing a long, long tow.  If we are speaking of club type 
> events at southeastern venues, Road Atlanta or VIR far outweigh other venues 
> which are often used by club event organizers such as VDCA & VRG.  These 
> clubs jointly stage an event at VIR in April each year which would suit the 
> bill.  Whether a two day November event at Road Atlanta, as Mike Jackson 
> suggests be given consideration, could be expanded to a three day event, and 
> whether November is too late in the season are questions I can't answer.  
> Thus Spake Zarathustra. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2023 11:31 AM
> To: fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup.
> 
> This seems like a good time to get a feel for the kind of event we racers 
> want to run our future Kastner Cups with. The two main options are the 
> smaller club events, or the big festival events.
> 
> Having competed at several Kastner Cup events, I can say there are many 
> aspects of the weekend that are the same regardless of the type of event. We 
> get to meet and mingle with new racers and old friends, check out cars we 
> don't typically run with, and get some insight on how our cars run against 
> other Triumphs. All the great stuff that makes up the fun. However, the 
> differences I see between the two types of events are as follows:
> 
> Festival Events
> 
> Typically higher entrance fees.
> Less track time because the sanctioning body loads the schedule with a wide 
> variety of race groups. With more cars, the higher the possibility of 
> incidents, shortening sessions.
> Organizers have less negotiating power as there is little flexibility with 
> the packed schedule.
> Possibly more exposure to the Marque and vintage racing in general from a 
> wide variety of media.
> 
> ~
> 
> Club Events
> 
> Typically lower entrance fees.
> More track time, more flexibility in negotiating perks like our own run 
> group, a second All Triumph (Reunion) Race, etc. Club events don't usually 
> have run groups of 5 year old former NASCAR racers being piloted by guys with 
> big checkbooks and limited experience.
> Limited media exposure compared to a major festival event, but good exposure 
> from the normal sources.
> 
> ~
> 
> I'll start. I'm all about driving the car. To me, track time is the biggest 
> draw for an event. I also look at the value, the anticipated track miles 
> raced vs the entry fees. Racing in front of 10,000 people is all fine and 
> good, but not a draw for me at all. Many of my racer friends share this 
> general opinion with me, but we can't ignore the success of the 2023 event 
> where we had strong numbers in general, and very strong numbers for racers 
> with very long tows.
> 
> Can we get an idea of what type of events active racers would prefer future 
> Kastner Cup events to be held? Festival events or Club events?
> 
> While we are at it, is there any track somebody has a hankering to run at? 
> That would be helpful information as well!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Henry Frye
> 
> 
>> On 2023-07-26 09:21, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot wrote:
>> I suppose it wouldnâ??t have to be. However the Mitty is attended very 
>> well. The track has had many improvements since the KCup was last ran 
>> at Road Atlanta.
>> 
>> Ronnie
>> 
>>>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:21 PM, chasgee22@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Would it have to be at the Mitty?
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot 
>>>> <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Is there any consideration to bringing the KCUP back to Road 
>>>> Atlanta During the Mitty.
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