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Subject: Re: [Fot] A-type OD leaks
From: "R. John Lye via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 22:58:49 -0400
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Wow, Bill Boemmler is a name that I recognize from my time in St. Louis.=C2=
=A0 He was indeed
a skilled machinist and did some really cool tricks just like Jack describe=
d.

Thanks,
John
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 19:35:35 +0000 (UTC), Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox=
=2Eteam.net> wrote:
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I've read a number of responses to this and all are good ideas.=C2=A0 When =
I was racing with an A-Type overdrive, I met a guy from St. Louis named Bil=
l Boemmler, a TR-3 racer from the 50's & 60's.=C2=A0 Bill was also a skille=
d machinist and had a small machine shop behind his house.=C2=A0 Everything=
 I know about the A-Type overdrive, I learned from Bill.

=C2=A0

The bottom of the adapter plate is fastened by 2 studs, one in each corner=
=2E=C2=A0 It generally leaks between these 2 studs.=C2=A0 Bill would drill =
and tap for two additional small bolts (about 1/2" long), spaced evenly bet=
ween the 2 studs.=C2=A0 Two holes were drilled in the adapter plate, aligne=
d with two holes which were drilled and tapped into the overdrive housing f=
or a 1/4" - 20 hex bolt.=C2=A0 This, of course, has to be done when the ove=
rdrive is apart, and the holes are drilled and tapped into the rear of the =
O/D housing.=C2=A0 When assembling, it is a tight fit to get these two bolt=
s in between the gearbox housing and the adapter plate, so the bolts need t=
o be short. just long enough to get a firm threading into the O/D housing=
=2E=C2=A0 They should be secured with either lock tight or safety wire.

=C2=A0

This process is a little hard to explain, so if you want a better descripti=
on either call me or contact me offline.=C2=A0 I had Bill perform this modi=
fication on all of my race and street car overdrives, and after this modifi=
cation, I never had a leak in this area.

=C2=A0

Cheers,

=C2=A0

Jack

=C2=A0




On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:17:01 AM EDT, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot=
@autox.team.net> wrote:

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I have a leaky a-type OD in my street TR4 that looks like it's leaking from=
 near the adapter plate.=C2=A0 I have never taken one apart.=C2=A0 Can I ju=
st separate the OD from the trans and replace the gaskets or the adapter pl=
ate (I've heard that Quantum Mechanics sells an uprated plate and am checki=
ng with John to see if he has one) and then reassemble without needing to t=
ake the OD apart further?=C2=A0 There is a youtube video that shows an OD b=
eing separated and it looks like it is do able.=C2=A0 Thoughts?=C2=A0 JoeB



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<div class=3D"userStyles" style=3D" font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; co=
lor: #000000;">Wow, Bill Boemmler is a name that I recognize from my time i=
n St. Louis.&nbsp; He was indeed<br>
a skilled machinist and did some really cool tricks just like Jack describe=
d.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
John
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er>

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<span>On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 19:35:35 +0000 (UTC), Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;fo=
t@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:</span><br>
&nbsp;
<div class=3D"ydp42159c9byahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica N=
eue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">
<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr">I've read a number of responses to t=
his and all are good ideas.&nbsp; When I was racing with an A-Type overdriv=
e, I met a guy from St. Louis named Bill Boemmler, a TR-3 racer from the 50=
's &amp; 60's.&nbsp; Bill was also a skilled machinist and had a small mach=
ine shop behind his house.&nbsp; Everything I know about the A-Type overdri=
ve, I learned from Bill.</div>

<div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>

<div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr">The bottom of the adapter plate is f=
astened by 2 studs, one in each corner.&nbsp; It generally leaks between th=
ese 2 studs.&nbsp; Bill would drill and tap for two additional small bolts =
(about 1/2" long), spaced evenly between the 2 studs.&nbsp; Two holes were =
drilled in the adapter plate, aligned with two holes which were drilled and=
 tapped into the overdrive housing for a 1/4" - 20 hex bolt.&nbsp; This, of=
 course, has to be done when the overdrive is apart, and the holes are dril=
led and tapped into the rear of the O/D housing.&nbsp; When assembling, it =
is a tight fit to get these two bolts in between the gearbox housing and th=
e adapter plate, so the bolts need to be short. just long enough to get a f=
irm threading into the O/D housing.&nbsp; They should be secured with eithe=
r lock tight or safety wire.</div>

<div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>

<div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr">This process is a little hard to exp=
lain, so if you want a better description either call me or contact me offl=
ine.&nbsp; I had Bill perform this modification on all of my race and stree=
t car overdrives, and after this modification, I never had a leak in this a=
rea.</div>

<div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>

<div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,</div>

<div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>

<div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr">Jack</div>

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nt-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
<div>On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:17:01 AM EDT, Joe Boruch via Fot=
 &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

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y:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">I have a leaky a-type OD in my street TR4 that looks like =
it's leaking from near the adapter plate.&nbsp; I have never taken one apar=
t.&nbsp; Can I just separate the OD from the trans and replace the gaskets =
or the adapter plate (I've heard that Quantum Mechanics sells an uprated pl=
ate and am checking with John to see if he has one) and then reassemble wit=
hout needing to take the OD apart further?&nbsp; There is a youtube video t=
hat shows an OD being separated and it looks like it is do able.&nbsp; Thou=
ghts?&nbsp; JoeB</div>
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