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Re: [Fot] info needed re Southwick Moser axles

To: Joe Boruch <jaboruch@yahoo.com>, fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>, Friends of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] info needed re Southwick Moser axles
From: DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2026 20:14:24 -0800 (PST)
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Thanks Joe.
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> On 01/19/2026 7:46 PM PST Joe Boruch <jaboruch@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> There is a thread from 2020 about the bearings.  Here is what I had poste=
d back then;
> "The Moser package that I have, which came with 2 bearings and 2 press on=
 retainers is part number MSR-9507F.  The bearing is an RW507E, 1.377 ID an=
d 2.834 OD.  JoeB"
> =20
> Here are some other posts from that thread:
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> The Timken number that I tried using is RW507ER.  Perhaps the Suffix R is=
 the radius designation.  In any event, it doesn't really cross with the Gr=
een bearing used for the Moser axle and I could not get a different Timken =
bearing.  The inner races have a different radius on the i.d.  I alway use =
Timken, but not this time.  Southwick will also send you Green bearings.  N=
umber RW507E.=20
> Dave H.=20
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> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Dec 29, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Phil Gott <vfracing@aol.com mailto:vfracin=
g@aol.com> wrote:
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> > Thanks, guys!
> > The seal that failed is not the O-ring. It is the seal in the bearing i=
tself. Gear oil from the differential is slowly working its way into the be=
aring and diluting the grease, which is getting thrown out onto the brakes.
> > Much appreciate the responses. I had not heard of =E2=80=9CGreen=E2=80=
=9D bearings as a brand before. Good to know that the chamfer radii are dif=
ferent from Timken.
> > In googling the part numbers it looks like Moser actually sells the bea=
ring and retainer as a set available from jEGS, Summit, etc.
> > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great g=
roup!
> > Phil
> >=20
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Dave <dlhogye@comcast.net mailto:dlhogye@=
comcast.net> wrote:
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> >> Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will f=
it, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. =
 Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings.  They come with Green bearing=
s.  The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing in=
terferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as=
 it should.  There was about .015" gap. =20
> >> The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E.  I asked the auto parts=
 guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could pre=
ss it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder.=20
> >> Dave H.
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> On Monday, January 19, 2026 at 10:28:22 PM EST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:
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> Glen,
> I should have kept the FoT in the thread.  Important stuff.
> I noticed this the first time I changed bearings.  If I remember correctl=
y, Timken, which I prefer, had a smaller radius and it didn't seat all the =
way.  It was seating down in the radius of the bearing.  Of course I didn't=
 think to check that radius before installing it.  Green and Timken obvious=
ly have a different radius.  I believe Southwick and Moser use the Green be=
arings.  There may be different part numbers from these companies for diffe=
rent dimensions for the radius.  I think the basic number is 9507.   So, th=
ere might be a Timken with the needed radius.  The Green number is 9507F or=
 RW507E. =20
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> Dave H.=20
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    On 01/19/2026 7:46 PM PST Joe Boruch &lt;jaboruch@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:
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ad posted back then;
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     "The Moser package that I have, which came with 2 bearings and 2 press=
 on retainers is part number MSR-9507F.&nbsp; The bearing is an RW507E, 1.3=
77 ID and 2.834 OD.&nbsp; JoeB"
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         The Timken number that I tried using is RW507ER.&nbsp; Perhaps the=
 Suffix R is the radius designation.&nbsp; In any event, it doesn't really =
cross with the Green bearing used for the Moser axle and I could not get a =
different Timken bearing.&nbsp; The inner races have a different radius on =
the i.d.&nbsp; I alway use Timken, but not this time.&nbsp; Southwick will =
also send you Green bearings.&nbsp; Number RW507E.&nbsp;
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e">Dave H.&nbsp;
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one">&gt; On Dec 29, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Phil Gott &lt;<a style=3D"text-decor=
ation-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor; outline-color: cur=
rentcolor !important;" href=3D"mailto:vfracing@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank" r=
el=3D"noopener" shape=3D"rect">vfracing@aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:
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one">&gt; Thanks, guys!
           <br style=3D"outline-color: currentcolor !important;" clear=3D"n=
one">&gt; The seal that failed is not the O-ring. It is the seal in the bea=
ring itself. Gear oil from the differential is slowly working its way into =
the bearing and diluting the grease, which is getting thrown out onto the b=
rakes.
           <br style=3D"outline-color: currentcolor !important;" clear=3D"n=
one">&gt; Much appreciate the responses. I had not heard of =E2=80=9CGreen=
=E2=80=9D bearings as a brand before. Good to know that the chamfer radii a=
re different from Timken.
           <br style=3D"outline-color: currentcolor !important;" clear=3D"n=
one">&gt; In googling the part numbers it looks like Moser actually sells t=
he bearing and retainer as a set available from jEGS, Summit, etc.
           <br style=3D"outline-color: currentcolor !important;" clear=3D"n=
one">&gt; Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a g=
reat group!
           <br style=3D"outline-color: currentcolor !important;" clear=3D"n=
one">&gt; Phil
           <br style=3D"outline-color: currentcolor !important;" clear=3D"n=
one">&gt;&nbsp;
           <br style=3D"outline-color: currentcolor !important;" clear=3D"n=
one">&gt; Sent from my iPhone
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one">&gt;&nbsp;
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one">&gt;&gt; On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Dave &lt;<a style=3D"text-decora=
tion-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor; outline-color: curr=
entcolor !important;" href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
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one">&gt;&gt;&nbsp;
           <br style=3D"outline-color: currentcolor !important;" clear=3D"n=
one">&gt;&gt; Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure =
it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you ins=
tall it.&nbsp; Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings.&nbsp; They come=
 with Green bearings.&nbsp; The first time I used Timken, I found that the =
radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the =
bearing from going on as it should.&nbsp; There was about .015" gap.&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
           <br style=3D"outline-color: currentcolor !important;" clear=3D"n=
one">&gt;&gt; The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E.&nbsp; I asked =
the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, notic=
ed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder.&nbsp;
           <br style=3D"outline-color: currentcolor !important;" clear=3D"n=
one">&gt;&gt; Dave H.
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         <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I noticed=
 this the first time I changed bearings.&nbsp; If I remember correctly, Tim=
ken, which I prefer, had a smaller radius and it didn't seat all the way.&n=
bsp; It was seating down in the radius of the bearing.&nbsp; Of course I di=
dn't think to check that radius before installing it.&nbsp; Green and Timke=
n obviously have a different radius.&nbsp; I believe Southwick and Moser us=
e the Green bearings.&nbsp; There may be different part numbers from these =
companies for different dimensions for the radius.&nbsp; I think the basic =
number is 9507.&nbsp; &nbsp;So, there might be a Timken with the needed rad=
ius.&nbsp; The Green number is 9507F or RW507E.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
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