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Re: [Healeys] Champions(again)

To: Dallas Congleton <dcongleton@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Champions(again)
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:40:17 +0000 (UTC)
Alright. Now the next thing to determine is if the suspect Champion plugs in 
the B were of newer manufacture (I'd say within the last two years). If so, 
this is a valuable data point--maybe Champion's manufacturing and/or QA has 
gone in the crapper. If the plugs were 10 years old, then it adds no additional 

Note also that many high-quality components--like the Tremec T-3650 5-speed in 
my Mustang--are now assembled in Mexico (or elsewhere). My guess is it's 
possible to train pretty much any nationality how to do things right if the 
management is at all concerned (remember when we all thought the Japanese could 
only build junk?). 


Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dallas Congleton" <dcongleton@embarqmail.com> 
To: healeys@autox.team.net 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 8:08:45 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Champions(again) 

This is in the FWIW category, and not to open any argument- 

I am also an enthusiast of old Fords, which were also originally equipped 
with Champion spark plugs. Even these purist are admitting problems with the 
currently manufactured Champion plugs. Seems Champions are now made in 
Mexico or somewhere ? Problems reported are generally lack of quality 
control, and plugs that are bad when new, or breakdown soon under spark and 

I think the point here is the benefit of current information on parts that 
have changed and are changing regularly in today's manufacturing environment 
with its apparent cost reductions. The parts that someone had excellent 
results just a year ago, now may be outsourced to even another country. 
Tires are the best (worst) example of this- Kumho (Korean company) sells 
tires are now made in China or maybe even Vietnam, and Vredsestion (Dutch) 
tires that are being actually made in Russia. This may or may not be a 
problem, but the underlying reason for the outsourcing is not one of 
quality, but of lesser cost. 

Using archives that are several years old, or having a report about 
something that was successfully used for X number of years is no longer 
relative to new parts with the same brand name. This is where current 
information on the list is helpful. 

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