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Re: [Healeys] Water Pump

To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>, Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water Pump
From: Ralph Cap <rjcapo1@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 12:05:40 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Wow that sucks the bottom line is that your going to have to take it out ev=
en though its a repro it should have lasted longer=20

     On Saturday, February 28, 2015 8:12 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.=
net> wrote:
  =20

 There is another known QA issue with the repops: the shaft breaks; greatly=
 reducing the efficacy of the pump and not very nice to your radiator eithe=
r.





Michael,Thank you appreciate your input and no don=E2=80=99t have the origi=
nal unit.Have now found the invoice and pump was bought in 2004 but car has=
 done less than 1200 miles since then=C2=A0 ...=C2=A0 grrr !rg=C2=A0=C2=A0F=
rom: Michael Salter
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 2:53 PMTo: Roger Grace
Cc: Healey List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water Pump=C2=A0Hi Roger,
If the pump on your car is indeed a recent replacement it is very likely, b=
ased upon my experience with the currently available BJ8 pumps, that the be=
aring has failed.=20
Having disassembled a few of these repop pumps that have been sent to me as=
 "original cores" I can confirm that these are very poorly made and it is a=
mazing that they operate at all.
There is no facility for lubricating the bearing as it is a sealed unit.If =
you have the original that was removed from your engine I would strongly re=
commend having it rebuilt or rebuilding it yourself as they are of far supe=
rior design and when correctly rebuilt last for decades.
Rebuilding instructions are here and I can supply a kit containing the corr=
ect parts for $68.65 including US tracked shipping although I am out of the=
 country at present and would not be able to get one on its way until after=
 19 Mar.
Michael S
BN1 #174
=C2=A0On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> wro=
te:

I have identified that my BJ8 water pump is noisy.First thought that it was=
 the fan (bad at certain RPM) but after removing the belt it squeaks when r=
otated.Looking at my drivers handbook, a lube point is shown.However mine d=
oes not have one, only a small rectangular hole at the top and bottom that =
I think is for removing the bearing retaining clip....?Noise sounds to me l=
ike a dry bearing. Is there any way to lubricate it in situ ??There is no l=
ateral or longitudinal bearing play and the pump is supposedly quite new pe=
r PO but not been used much.Any ideas ? =E2=80=93or do I just bite the bull=
et and pull it and get a replacement; I note bearings are over 70% of cost =
of complete pump.rg=C2=A0







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nt-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Wow that sucks the bottom line is that=
 your going to have to take it out even though its a repro it should have l=
asted longer</span></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display: block;"> <div style=3D"font-family:=
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r=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> On Saturday, February 28, 2015 =
8:12 PM, Bob Spidell &lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div>=
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>There is another known QA issue with the repops: the shaft breaks; greatly=
 reducing the efficacy of the pump and not very nice to your radiator eithe=
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=3D"yiv4815874044yqtfd25095"><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=
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v style=3D'color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; font-size: 12=
pt;'><div>Michael,</div><div>Thank you appreciate your input and no don=E2=
=80=99t have the original unit.</div><div>Have now found the invoice and pu=
mp was bought in 2004 but car has done less than 1200 miles since then&nbsp=
; ...&nbsp; grrr !</div><div>rg</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-si=
ze: small; text-decoration: none;"><div style=3D"font: 10pt/normal tahoma; =
font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><div>&nbsp;</div><div style=
=3D"background: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"michaels=
alter@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>=
Michael Salter</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, Febr=
uary 28, 2015 2:53 PM</div><div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"roggrace@telus.net" =
href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net";>Roger Grace</a><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net" href=3D"ma=
ilto:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"re=
ct" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Healey List</a><br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Water Pump</div></div></div><=
div>&nbsp;</div></div><div style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none=
;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"yiv4815874044gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family: comic sans ms, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Hi Roger,<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv4815874044gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily: comic sans ms, sans-serif; font-size: small;">If the pump on your car =
is indeed a recent replacement it is very likely, based upon my experience =
with the currently available BJ8 pumps, that the bearing has failed. <br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv4815874044gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family: comic sans ms, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Having disassembled a=
 few of these repop pumps that have been sent to me as "original cores" I c=
an confirm that these are very poorly made and it is amazing that they oper=
ate at all.<br clear=3D"none">There is no facility for lubricating the bear=
ing as it is a sealed unit.</div><div class=3D"yiv4815874044gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms, sans-serif; font-size: small;">If you =
have the original that was removed from your engine I would strongly recomm=
end having it rebuilt or rebuilding it yourself as they are of far superior=
 design and when correctly rebuilt last for decades.<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div class=3D"yiv4815874044gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic san=
s ms, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Rebuilding instructions are <a href=3D=
"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D994"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofol=
low" shape=3D"rect">here</a> and I can supply a kit containing the correct =
parts for $68.65 including US tracked shipping although I am out of the cou=
ntry at present and would not be able to get one on its way until after 19 =
Mar.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv4815874044gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-family: comic sans ms, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Michael S<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv4815874044gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family: comic sans ms, sans-serif; font-size: small;">BN1 #174<br clear=
=3D"none"></div></div><div class=3D"yiv4815874044gmail_extra"><div>&nbsp;</=
div><div class=3D"yiv4815874044gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:15 AM=
, Roger Grace <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:roggrace=
@telus.net">roggrace@telus.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blo=
ckquote class=3D"yiv4815874044gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-w=
idth: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v style=3D'color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; font-size: 12=
pt;'><div>I have identified that my BJ8 water pump is noisy.</div><div>Firs=
t thought that it was the fan (bad at certain RPM) but after removing the b=
elt it squeaks when rotated.</div><div>Looking at my drivers handbook, a lu=
be point is shown.</div><div>However mine does not have one, only a small r=
ectangular hole at the top and bottom that I think is for removing the bear=
ing retaining clip....?</div><div>Noise sounds to me like a dry bearing. Is=
 there any way to lubricate it in situ ??</div><div>There is no lateral or =
longitudinal bearing play and the pump is supposedly quite new per PO but n=
ot been used much.</div><div>Any ideas ? =E2=80=93or do I just bite the bul=
let and pull it and get a replacement; I note bearings are over 70% of cost=
 of complete pump.</div><div>rg</div><div>&nbsp;</div></div></div></div><br=
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re"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
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