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Re: [Healeys] Bugeye Brake Problem

To: John and Judy Carter <jc9821@msn.com>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bugeye Brake Problem
From: John O'Brien <banjojohn@cox.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 11:31:35 -0600
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One other tip is to push the slaver cylinder push rod all the way back 
into the slave while the pedal is being held down, and the bleed nipple 
is open.  Sometimes there is an air pocket trapped in the slave cylinder 
itself, and pushing the rod back into the cylinder will force the last 
bit of air out.  Saw this on a Moss tech video.
John O'Brien
61 bugeye "Lucy"
65 BJ8 "Madelyn"

On 11/26/2015 7:05 PM, banjojohn wrote:
> I recently changed my master cylinder from a 7/8" to a 3/4" bore.  I 
> had a similar problem but I was able to raise the pedal by adjusting 
> length of the pushrod from the pedal to the MC. Be careful not to go 
> too far or the MC will not have enough return travel to release the 
> brake fluid back to the reservoir and your brakes will lock up. 
>  Learned by experience.
>
> John O'Brien
> 61 bug eye "Lucy"
> 65 BJ8 "Madelyn"
>
>
>
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: John and Judy Carter <jc9821@msn.com>
> Date: 11/26/2015 1:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye Brake Problem
>
> I have a Bugeye that I have replaced all the front and rear rubber 
> including the master cylinder. New calipers on front and new  rear 
> drums, springs, cylinders,etc.,etc. New rubber in clutch slave. After 
> bleeding using the two-man method I still am not satisfied with the 
> pedal feel. It still depresses about half way down although the 
> stopping power is pretty good. Is it possible
> to get a really hard brake pedal in this car? Is there any sure-fire 
> way to bleed all the air out of the lines?
>
> > From: healeys-request@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Healeys Digest, Vol 8, Issue 355
> > To: healeys@autox.team.net
> > Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 10:48:51 -0700
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> > 1. Re: Streamliner (Derek Job)
> > 2. Re: Streamliner (Wilko2)
> > 3. Re: Streamliner (Wilko2)
> > 4. Re: Streamliner (Wilko2)
> > 5. Re: Streamliner (Peter Dzwig)
> > 6. Re: non OEM bumpers (Bruce Steele)
> > 7. Re: Streamliner (warthodson@aol.com)
> > 8. Re: Streamliner and Engines (Peter Dzwig)
> > 9. Healey in Walmart Dream Car Calendar (mgiroux@sgl.com)
> > 10. Re: Healey in Walmart Dream Car Calendar (Bob Spidell)
> > 11. Offset hubs (BJ8Healeys)
> > 12. Re: Offset hubs (David Porter)
> > 13. Re: Offset hubs (Jean Caron)
> > 14. Stainless exhaust manifold repair (Simon Lachlan)
> > 15. Re: Stainless exhaust manifold repair (glemon@neb.rr.com)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 19:51:53 +0000
> > From: Derek Job <derek.c.job@gmail.com>
> > To: pdzwig@summaventures.com
> > Cc: Healey <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Streamliner
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAAh8etkcTpqu6Av1PiaW5wi1O366NBoXO1XvPdS4Jxs=3bcOSg@mail.gmail.com>
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> >
> > Great photos, I love the overhead shot. I think you meant to say 
> note the
> > triple Webers.
> >
> > Derek
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig@summaventures.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I think that you might like to see these found in the Revs archive at
> > > Stanford..I think that they may have got some of the attributions 
> wrong,
> > > but..
> > >
> > > Streamliner(?) at Sebring in 57 - Car 24
> > >
> > > <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/qk940yk6550>
> > >
> > > Ditto but number 25 (which is the one which is most likely to be the
> > > Record Car)
> > >
> > > <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/wf471cc7658>
> > >
> > > Presumably the same car. Note the triple SUs
> > >
> > > <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533ny1516>
> > >
> > > The photos are from the Karl Ludvidgsen Collection at Revs
> > >
> > > Peter
> > > --
> > >
> > > ===========================================================
> > > Dr Peter Dzwig
> > >
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:29:04 -0800
> > From: Wilko2 <e-wilkins@cox.net>
> > To: Derek Job <derek.c.job@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Healey <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Streamliner
> > Message-ID: <58F97C02-14C7-4E69-AC17-2C838791CDCC@cox.net>
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> >
> > Calling them SUs made me look twice. Those don't look like Weber 
> float chambers...
> >
> >
> > On Nov 25, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Derek Job wrote:
> >
> > > Great photos, I love the overhead shot. I think you meant to say 
> note the triple Webers.
> > >
> > > Derek
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Peter Dzwig 
> <pdzwig@summaventures.com> wrote:
> > > I think that you might like to see these found in the Revs archive at
> > > Stanford..I think that they may have got some of the attributions 
> wrong, but..
> > >
> > > Streamliner(?) at Sebring in 57 - Car 24
> > >
> > > <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/qk940yk6550>
> > >
> > > Ditto but number 25 (which is the one which is most likely to be 
> the Record Car)
> > >
> > > <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/wf471cc7658>
> > >
> > > Presumably the same car. Note the triple SUs
> > >
> > > <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533ny1516>
> > >
> > > The photos are from the Karl Ludvidgsen Collection at Revs
> > >
> > > Peter
> > > --
> > >
> > > ===========================================================
> > > Dr Peter Dzwig
> > >
> > >
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:31:33 -0800
> > From: Wilko2 <e-wilkins@cox.net>
> > Cc: Healey Healeys <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Streamliner
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> >
> > Looking again at the carbs, I'm going to say they look like Solex carbs.
> >
> > On Nov 25, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Derek Job wrote:
> >
> > > Great photos, I love the overhead shot. I think you meant to say 
> note the triple Webers.
> > >
> > > Derek
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Peter Dzwig 
> <pdzwig@summaventures.com> wrote:
> > > I think that you might like to see these found in the Revs archive at
> > > Stanford..I think that they may have got some of the attributions 
> wrong, but..
> > >
> > > Streamliner(?) at Sebring in 57 - Car 24
> > >
> > > <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/qk940yk6550>
> > >
> > > Ditto but number 25 (which is the one which is most likely to be 
> the Record Car)
> > >
> > > <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/wf471cc7658>
> > >
> > > Presumably the same car. Note the triple SUs
> > >
> > > <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533ny1516>
> > >
> > > The photos are from the Karl Ludvidgsen Collection at Revs
> > >
> > > Peter
> > > --
> > >
> > > ===========================================================
> > > Dr Peter Dzwig
> > >
> >
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:35:33 -0800
> > From: Wilko2 <e-wilkins@cox.net>
> > To: Wilko2 <e-wilkins@cox.net>
> > Cc: Healey <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Streamliner
> > Message-ID: <7DC1F91F-426D-4BA5-B0D2-D1F0F90E6A75@cox.net>
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> >
> > They are branded Weber when I see the larger photo. Very different 
> from the more common DCOE style body.
> >
> > On Nov 25, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Wilko2 wrote:
> >
> > > Calling them SUs made me look twice. Those don't look like Weber 
> float chambers...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 25, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Derek Job wrote:
> > >
> > >> Great photos, I love the overhead shot. I think you meant to say 
> note the triple Webers.
> > >>
> > >> Derek
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Peter Dzwig 
> <pdzwig@summaventures.com> wrote:
> > >> I think that you might like to see these found in the Revs archive at
> > >> Stanford..I think that they may have got some of the attributions 
> wrong, but..
> > >>
> > >> Streamliner(?) at Sebring in 57 - Car 24
> > >>
> > >> <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/qk940yk6550>
> > >>
> > >> Ditto but number 25 (which is the one which is most likely to be 
> the Record Car)
> > >>
> > >> <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/wf471cc7658>
> > >>
> > >> Presumably the same car. Note the triple SUs
> > >>
> > >> <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533ny1516>
> > >>
> > >> The photos are from the Karl Ludvidgsen Collection at Revs
> > >>
> > >> Peter
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> ===========================================================
> > >> Dr Peter Dzwig
> > >>
> > >>
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:37 +0000
> > From: Peter Dzwig <pdzwig@summaventures.com>
> > To: Derek Job <derek.c.job@gmail.com>, "healeys >> Healey"
> > <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Streamliner
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> >
> > You're right I did, but I agree with Wilko that they don't look much 
> like them
> > but then not like typical SUs either.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > On 25/11/2015 19:51, Derek Job wrote:
> > > Great photos, I love the overhead shot. I think you meant to say 
> note the triple
> > > Webers.
> > >
> > > Derek
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig@summaventures.com
> > >
> >
>
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    One other tip is to push the slaver cylinder push rod all the way
    back into the slave while the pedal is being held down, and the
    bleed nipple is open.  Sometimes there is an air pocket trapped in
    the slave cylinder itself, and pushing the rod back into the
    cylinder will force the last bit of air out.  Saw this on a Moss
    tech video.<br>
    John O'Brien<br>
    61 bugeye "Lucy"<br>
    65 BJ8 "Madelyn"<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/26/2015 7:05 PM, banjojohn wrote:<br>
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      <div>I recently changed my master cylinder from a 7/8" to a 3/4"
        bore.  I had a similar problem but I was able to raise the pedal
        by adjusting length of the pushrod from the pedal to the MC. Be
        careful not to go too far or the MC will not have enough return
        travel to release the brake fluid back to the reservoir and your
        brakes will lock up.  Learned by experience.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>John O'Brien</div>
      <div>61 bug eye "Lucy"</div>
      <div>65 BJ8 "Madelyn"</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div id="composer_signature">
        <div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent on the new Sprint
          Network from my Samsung Galaxy S®4</div>
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      From: John and Judy Carter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:jc9821@msn.com";>&lt;jc9821@msn.com&gt;</a> <br>
      Date: 11/26/2015 1:53 PM (GMT-06:00) <br>
      To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a> <br>
      Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye Brake Problem <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I have a Bugeye that I have replaced all the front
        and rear rubber including the master cylinder. New calipers on
        front and new  rear drums, springs, cylinders,etc.,etc. New
        rubber in clutch slave. After bleeding using the two-man method
        I still am not satisfied with the pedal feel. It still depresses
        about half way down although the stopping power is pretty good.
        Is it possible
        <div>to get a really hard brake pedal in this car? Is there any
          sure-fire way to bleed all the air out of the lines?<br>
          <br>
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            &gt; 5. Re: Streamliner (Peter Dzwig)<br>
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            &gt; 8. Re: Streamliner and Engines (Peter Dzwig)<br>
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            &gt; 10. Re: Healey in Walmart Dream Car Calendar (Bob
            Spidell)<br>
            &gt; 11. Offset hubs (BJ8Healeys)<br>
            &gt; 12. Re: Offset hubs (David Porter)<br>
            &gt; 13. Re: Offset hubs (Jean Caron)<br>
            &gt; 14. Stainless exhaust manifold repair (Simon Lachlan)<br>
            &gt; 15. Re: Stainless exhaust manifold repair
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            &gt; Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 19:51:53 +0000<br>
            &gt; From: Derek Job <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:derek.c.job@gmail.com";>&lt;derek.c.job@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
            &gt; To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
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            &gt; Cc: Healey <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            &gt; Subject: Re: [Healeys] Streamliner<br>
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            &gt; Great photos, I love the overhead shot. I think you
            meant to say note the<br>
            &gt; triple Webers.<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Derek<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Peter Dzwig
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:pdzwig@summaventures.com";>&lt;pdzwig@summaventures.com&gt;</a><br>
            &gt; wrote:<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; I think that you might like to see these found in
            the Revs archive at<br>
            &gt; &gt; Stanford..I think that they may have got some of
            the attributions wrong,<br>
            &gt; &gt; but..<br>
            &gt; &gt;<br>
            &gt; &gt; Streamliner(?) at Sebring in 57 - Car 24<br>
            &gt; &gt;<br>
            &gt; &gt;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/qk940yk6550";>&lt;https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/qk940yk6550&gt;</a><br>
            &gt; &gt;<br>
            &gt; &gt; Ditto but number 25 (which is the one which is
            most likely to be the<br>
            &gt; &gt; Record Car)<br>
            &gt; &gt;<br>
            &gt; &gt;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/wf471cc7658";>&lt;https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/wf471cc7658&gt;</a><br>
            &gt; &gt;<br>
            &gt; &gt; Presumably the same car. Note the triple SUs<br>
            &gt; &gt;<br>
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            &gt; &gt;<br>
            &gt; &gt; The photos are from the Karl Ludvidgsen Collection
            at Revs<br>
            &gt; &gt;<br>
            &gt; &gt; Peter<br>
            &gt; &gt; --<br>
            &gt; &gt;<br>
            &gt; &gt;
            ===========================================================<br>
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            &gt; Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:29:04 -0800<br>
            &gt; From: Wilko2 <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            &gt; To: Derek Job <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            &gt; Cc: Healey <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            &gt; Subject: Re: [Healeys] Streamliner<br>
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            &gt; Calling them SUs made me look twice. Those don't look
            like Weber float chambers...<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; On Nov 25, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Derek Job wrote:<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; Great photos, I love the overhead shot. I think
            you meant to say note the triple Webers.<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; Derek<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Peter Dzwig
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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wrote:<br>
            &gt; &gt; I think that you might like to see these found in
            the Revs archive at<br>
            &gt; &gt; Stanford..I think that they may have got some of
            the attributions wrong, but..<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; Streamliner(?) at Sebring in 57 - Car 24<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; Ditto but number 25 (which is the one which is
            most likely to be the Record Car)<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; Presumably the same car. Note the triple SUs<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; The photos are from the Karl Ludvidgsen Collection
            at Revs<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; Peter<br>
            &gt; &gt; --<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;
            ===========================================================<br>
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            &gt; Message: 3<br>
            &gt; Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:31:33 -0800<br>
            &gt; From: Wilko2 <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            &gt; Cc: Healey Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            &gt; Subject: Re: [Healeys] Streamliner<br>
            &gt; Message-ID:
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            &gt; Looking again at the carbs, I'm going to say they look
            like Solex carbs.<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; On Nov 25, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Derek Job wrote:<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; Great photos, I love the overhead shot. I think
            you meant to say note the triple Webers.<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; Derek<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Peter Dzwig
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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wrote:<br>
            &gt; &gt; I think that you might like to see these found in
            the Revs archive at<br>
            &gt; &gt; Stanford..I think that they may have got some of
            the attributions wrong, but..<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; Streamliner(?) at Sebring in 57 - Car 24<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/qk940yk6550";>&lt;https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/qk940yk6550&gt;</a><br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; Ditto but number 25 (which is the one which is
            most likely to be the Record Car)<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/wf471cc7658";>&lt;https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/wf471cc7658&gt;</a><br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; Presumably the same car. Note the triple SUs<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533ny1516";>&lt;https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533ny1516&gt;</a><br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; The photos are from the Karl Ludvidgsen Collection
            at Revs<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; Peter<br>
            &gt; &gt; --<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;
            ===========================================================<br>
            &gt; &gt; Dr Peter Dzwig<br>
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            &gt; Message: 4<br>
            &gt; Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:35:33 -0800<br>
            &gt; From: Wilko2 <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:e-wilkins@cox.net";>&lt;e-wilkins@cox.net&gt;</a><br>
            &gt; To: Wilko2 <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            &gt; Cc: Healey <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            &gt; Subject: Re: [Healeys] Streamliner<br>
            &gt; Message-ID:
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            &gt; <br>
            &gt; They are branded Weber when I see the larger photo.
            Very different from the more common DCOE style body.<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; On Nov 25, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Wilko2 wrote:<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; Calling them SUs made me look twice. Those don't
            look like Weber float chambers...<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; On Nov 25, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Derek Job wrote:<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; Great photos, I love the overhead shot. I
            think you meant to say note the triple Webers.<br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; Derek<br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Peter Dzwig
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:pdzwig@summaventures.com";>&lt;pdzwig@summaventures.com&gt;</a> 
wrote:<br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; I think that you might like to see these found
            in the Revs archive at<br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; Stanford..I think that they may have got some
            of the attributions wrong, but..<br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; Streamliner(?) at Sebring in 57 - Car 24<br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/qk940yk6550";>&lt;https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/qk940yk6550&gt;</a><br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; Ditto but number 25 (which is the one which is
            most likely to be the Record Car)<br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            &gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; Presumably the same car. Note the triple SUs<br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533ny1516";>&lt;https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533ny1516&gt;</a><br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; The photos are from the Karl Ludvidgsen
            Collection at Revs<br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; Peter<br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; --<br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt;
            ===========================================================<br>
            &gt; &gt;&gt; Dr Peter Dzwig<br>
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            &gt; To: Derek Job <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            &gt;&gt; Healey"<br>
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            &gt; Subject: Re: [Healeys] Streamliner<br>
            &gt; Message-ID: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            &gt; You're right I did, but I agree with Wilko that they
            don't look much like them<br>
            &gt; but then not like typical SUs either.<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Peter<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; On 25/11/2015 19:51, Derek Job wrote:<br>
            &gt; &gt; Great photos, I love the overhead shot. I think
            you meant to say note the triple<br>
            &gt; &gt; Webers.<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; Derek<br>
            &gt; &gt; <br>
            &gt; &gt; On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Peter Dzwig
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