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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Toyota 5-speed conversion
From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 10:43:51 -0800
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As I reflect on this a bit more, I may have split the case so I could see
the condition of the gears.

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Wilko2 <e-wilkins@cox.net> wrote:

> Here are some instructions for that section of the transmission. Toyota
> calls the end of the transmission the "extension" and the tower is the
> "shifter retainer"
>
> http://www.cygnusx1.net/supra/library/tsrm/mk2/manual.aspx?S=MT&P=31
>
> On Dec 15, 2015, at 6:23 PM, richard mayor wrote:
>
> Well..... my experience is a bit different.
> The shift towers come in about 6 different locations. In whatever position
> it is, there is a long shifter rod that extends from the front half into
> the back half of the transmission.  The shifter stick has a ball on the end
> that goes down into a cup, and that cup is at the end of an arm, and that
> arm is bolted to the shifter rod. Depending on the shift tower position,
> the length of the arm is different. You cannot simply bolt on a different
> shift tower and have the stick match up with the cup in the old shifter
> arm.
> When I converted a Supra transmission (W58 with rear tower position) to a
> front shift tower position (W59 2 wheel drive truck), and I've done this
> twice, I seem to recall that I had to split the transmission in order to
> remove and replace the arm with a completely different length of arm.
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:44 PM, i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> good luck, not a universal endorsement of your veracity. I think this was
>> a one off :)
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ira said:  *"Michael is correct."*
>>>
>>> I am forwarding that to my wife and I am sure it will give her a good
>>> laugh.
>>>
>>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:00 PM, i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael is correct. I have a 5 spd on my car. It's about where the
>>>> shift tower is located. It just bolts to the top of the tranny. The only
>>>> fabricating I did was to lengthen the fulcrum point for the slave arm on
>>>> the side of the tranny.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Michael Oritt <
>>>> michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gary--
>>>>>
>>>>> My "Smitty's Instructions" are not close at hand but my recollection
>>>>> is that there are three different locations available for the shifter
>>>>> depending upon which tower is used.  None requires any adaption, 
>>>>> etc.--they
>>>>> are simply alternative Toyota parts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>>>> BN1 w/Toyota 5-speed
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:03 AM, <warthodson@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A friend is installing a Toyota 5-speed conversion kit. One of the
>>>>>> changes required is installing a forward shift tower & "housing shift"
>>>>>> #33521-35221", but the instructions do not explain how this is done.  The
>>>>>> part we do not understand is how to install the new housing shift onto 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> existing shaft. Does the transmission need to be split in half to access
>>>>>> the shifter shaft? Has anyone done this & could you explain the process?
>>>>>> Does anyone know what I am talking about?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Gary Hodson
>>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">As I reflect on this a bit more, I may have split the case=
 so I could see the condition of the gears.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_ex=
tra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Wilko2=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:e-wilkins@cox.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k">e-wilkins@cox.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div>Here are some instructions for t=
hat section of the transmission. Toyota calls the end of the transmission t=
he &quot;extension&quot; and the tower is the &quot;shifter retainer&quot;<=
/div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.cygnusx1.net/supra/library/t=
srm/mk2/manual.aspx?S=3DMT&amp;P=3D31" target=3D"_blank">http://www.cygnusx=
1.net/supra/library/tsrm/mk2/manual.aspx?S=3DMT&amp;P=3D31</a></div><br><di=
v><div>On Dec 15, 2015, at 6:23 PM, richard mayor wrote:</div><br><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Well..... my experience is a bi=
t different.=C2=A0 <br></div>The shift towers come in about 6 different loc=
ations. In whatever position it is, there is a long shifter rod that extend=
s from the front half into the back half of the transmission.=C2=A0 The shi=
fter stick has a ball on the end that goes down into a cup, and that cup is=
 at the end of an arm, and that arm is bolted to the shifter rod. Depending=
 on the shift tower position, the length of the arm is different. You canno=
t simply bolt on a different shift tower and have the stick match up with t=
he cup in the old shifter arm. <br></div>When I converted a Supra transmiss=
ion (W58 with rear tower position) to a front shift tower position (W59 2 w=
heel drive truck), and I&#39;ve done this twice, I seem to recall that I ha=
d to split the transmission in order to remove and replace the arm with a c=
ompletely different length of arm. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:44 PM, i erbs <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">ey=
era3000@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">good luck, not a universal endorsement of your veracity. I =
think this was a one off :)<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Michael Oritt <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">michael.o=
ritt@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div><font color=3D"#3333ff">Ira said: =C2=A0</font><i style=
=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">&quot;Michael is correct.&quot;</i></div><div><i =
style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></i></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(=
51,51,255)">I am forwarding that to my wife and I am sure it will give her =
a good laugh.</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></s=
pan></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt</sp=
an></div></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:00 PM, i erbs <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Micha=
el is correct. I have a 5 spd on my car. It&#39;s about where the shift tow=
er is located. It just bolts to the top of the tranny. The only fabricating=
 I did was to lengthen the fulcrum point for the slave arm on the side of t=
he tranny.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div><div>On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Michael Oritt <span dir=3D"ltr">=
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">michael.or=
itt@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"color:#3333ff">Gary--</div>=
<div style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div style=3D"color:#3333ff">My &quo=
t;Smitty&#39;s Instructions&quot; are not close at hand but my recollection=
 is that there are three different locations available for the shifter depe=
nding upon which tower is used.=C2=A0 None requires any adaption, etc.--the=
y are simply alternative Toyota parts.</div><div style=3D"color:#3333ff"><b=
r></div><div style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div style=3D=
"color:#3333ff">BN1 w/Toyota 5-speed</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:03 AM,  <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">=
warthodson@aol.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div><div><font face=3D"arial" color=3D"black" size=3D"2">
<div><font style=3D"background-color:transparent">A friend is installing a =
Toyota 5-speed conversion kit. One of the changes required is installing a =
forward shift tower &amp; &quot;housing shift&quot; #33521-35221&quot;, but=
 the instructions do not explain how this is done.=C2=A0 The part we do not=
 understand is how to install the new housing shift onto the existing shaft=
. Does the transmission need to be split in half to access the shifter shaf=
t? Has anyone done this &amp; could you explain=C2=A0the process? Does anyo=
ne know what I am talking about?</font></div>

<div>Thanks,</div>

<div>Gary Hodson </div>

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