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Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Interesting comment from a dealer

To: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Interesting comment from a dealer
From: Randy Hicks <healey100m@me.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 14:31:46 -0500
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References: <4A61EECD-6995-4FB2-AFC0-F0CF14B7A5DB@me.com> <1300A36C-B828-4B95-BAB9-D94C35DD61B2@me.com>
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BTW, the car has been since sold twice in Europe. No inquiries.

Randy


On Feb 5, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Randy Hicks wrote:

Oh, they are out there. I saw a 100M (from CA) for sale on eBay a few =
years ago - non numbers matching and non standard trim.

Several months later the same car showed up for sale by a dealer in Palm =
Beach, FL. Now the trim had been re-done and it was a numbers matching =
car.  ???!!!!  Dealer refused to answer my emails and I finally got him =
by phone.

Bottom line, IT WAS HIS CAR AND HE COULD DO WHATEVER HE WANTED WITH THE =
NUMBERS!  He also stated that I should never call him again!  :-) =20

If buyers do not contact registries, they have nobody to blame.

Randy
AHCA 100 Registrar

>=20
>> On Feb 5, 2016, at 10:11 AM, BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Thought you Healeyphiles might enjoy this.  This attitude might =
explain why there are so many BJ8s running around now that have lost =
their original identities and acquired new ones.  People need to pay =
special attention to the correct identity of a car when they are =
considering buying it.
>> =20
>> A BJ8 was recently advertised by LBI, Ltd. as HBJ8L/25366 -- a Phase =
1 VIN.  However, both the VIN plate and the body plate are from a BJ7.
>> I inquired twice about the reason for the discrepancy, and this is =
the response.  Note the last sentence:
>> =20
>> Hi Steve,
>>    Yes, we noticed this as well and traced it back to a simple =
mistake. The tags to this car were put on another car and vice versa, =
everything has since been switched and corrected. We just need to take =
new photos. Minor issue, thankfully it's not an important car!=20
>> =20
>> Regards,
>> www.LBILimited.com
>> Next Generation Car Guys=20
>> =20
>> > Please answer this guy and need to get it resolved.=20
>> > -------- Original Message --------
>> > Subject: Current, Past or Offsite  Offerings Inquiry
>> > From: Steve Byers <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
>> > Subject: [your-subject]
>> >=20
>> > Name: [your-name
>> > Email: sbyers@ec.rr.com
>> > Message Body:
>> > Hello,=20
>> > I inquired about this car about a week ago, but have not received a =
response.  You advertise the VIN as HBJ8L25366, which is a Phase 1 BJ8 =
number, but the photo of the VIN plate shows it reads HBJ7L24221, and =
the body plate above it reads 3160 BJ7 60118.  Both of these numbers =
obviously belong to a BJ7, not a BJ8.  What is the explanation for these =
discrepancies?
>> >=20
>> > Thank you for a response.
>> >=20
>> > Vehicle inquiring about: 1964 Austin Healey 3000 MKIII
>> > Phone: 252-447-8812
>> =20
>> Steve Byers
>> HBJ8L/36666
>> BJ8 Registry
>> AHCA Delegate at Large
>> Havelock, NC =20
>> =20
>> =20
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">BTW, =
the car has been since sold twice in Europe. No =
inquiries.<div><br></div><div>Randy</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div=
>On Feb 5, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Randy Hicks wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" =
content=3D"text/html charset=3Dus-ascii"><div style=3D"word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
HelveticaNeue;" class=3D"">Oh, they are out there. I saw a 100M (from =
CA) for sale on eBay a few years ago - non numbers matching and non =
standard trim.</span><div class=3D"" style=3D"font-family: =
HelveticaNeue;"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:=
 HelveticaNeue;">Several months later the same car showed up for sale by =
a dealer in Palm Beach, FL. Now the trim had been re-done and it was a =
numbers matching car. &nbsp;???!!!! &nbsp;Dealer refused to answer my =
emails and I finally got him by phone.</div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue;"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""=
 style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue;">Bottom line, IT WAS HIS CAR AND =
HE COULD DO WHATEVER HE WANTED WITH THE NUMBERS! &nbsp;He also stated =
that I should never call him again! &nbsp;:-) &nbsp;</div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue;"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""=
 style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue;">If buyers do not contact =
registries, they have nobody to blame.</div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue;"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""=
 style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue;">Randy</div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue;">AHCA 100 Registrar</div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue;"><br =
class=3D""></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Feb 5, 2016, at 10:11 AM, BJ8Healeys =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"; =
class=3D"">sbyers@ec.rr.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: =
HelveticaNeue; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D"">Thought you =
Healeyphiles might enjoy this.&nbsp; This attitude might explain why =
there are so many BJ8s running around now that have lost their original =
identities and acquired new ones.&nbsp; People need to pay special =
attention to the correct identity of a car when they are considering =
buying it.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0, =
32, 96);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans =
MS'; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D"">A BJ8 was recently advertised by =
LBI, Ltd. as HBJ8L/25366 -- a Phase 1 VIN.&nbsp; However, both the VIN =
plate and the body plate are from a BJ7.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" =
class=3D"">I inquired twice about the reason for the discrepancy, and =
this is the response.&nbsp; Note the last sentence:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">Hi =
Steve,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 Yes, we noticed this as well and traced it back to a simple mistake. =
The tags to this car were put on another car and vice versa, everything =
has since been switched and corrected. We just need to take new =
photos.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b =
class=3D"">Minor issue, thankfully it's not an important car!<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></b></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">Regards,<br =
class=3D""><a href=3D"http://www.lbilimited.com/"; style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D""><span style=3D"color: =
windowtext; text-decoration: none;" =
class=3D"">www.LBILimited.com</span></a><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Consolas;" class=3D"">Next Generation Car Guys<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt; Please answer =
this guy and need to get it resolved.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt; -------- =
Original Message --------<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin:=
 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" =
class=3D"">&gt; Subject: Current, Past or Offsite&nbsp; Offerings =
Inquiry<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt; From: Steve =
Byers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"; style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D""><span style=3D"color: =
windowtext; text-decoration: none;" =
class=3D"">sbyers@ec.rr.com</span></a>&gt;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div=
 style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt; Subject: [your-subject]<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt; Name: =
[your-name<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt; =
Email:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"; style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D""><span style=3D"color: =
windowtext; text-decoration: none;" =
class=3D"">sbyers@ec.rr.com</span></a><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt; Message Body:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt; Hello,<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt; I inquired =
about this car about a week ago, but have not received a response.&nbsp; =
You advertise the VIN as HBJ8L25366, which is a Phase 1 BJ8 number, but =
the photo of the VIN plate shows it reads HBJ7L24221, and the body plate =
above it reads 3160 BJ7 60118.&nbsp; Both of these numbers obviously =
belong to a BJ7, not a BJ8.&nbsp; What is the explanation for these =
discrepancies?<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt; Thank you for a =
response.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt; Vehicle =
inquiring about: 1964 Austin Healey 3000 MKIII<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D"">&gt; Phone: =
252-447-8812<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Consolas;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" =
class=3D"">Steve Byers<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans =
MS'; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D"">HBJ8L/36666<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" =
class=3D"">BJ8 Registry<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans =
MS'; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D"">AHCA Delegate at Large<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" =
class=3D"">Havelock, NC&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
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