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Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Interesting comment from a dealer

To: Randy Hicks <healey100m@me.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Interesting comment from a dealer
From: Derek Job <derek.c.job@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 20:53:50 +0000
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Am I missing something here? Its pretty obvious that a a Bj8 doesn't look
like a BJ7. Did the car have a BJ8 interior or was it really a BJ7?

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Randy Hicks <healey100m@me.com> wrote:

> BTW, the car has been since sold twice in Europe. No inquiries.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Randy Hicks wrote:
>
> Oh, they are out there. I saw a 100M (from CA) for sale on eBay a few
> years ago - non numbers matching and non standard trim.
>
> Several months later the same car showed up for sale by a dealer in Palm
> Beach, FL. Now the trim had been re-done and it was a numbers matching car.
>  ???!!!!  Dealer refused to answer my emails and I finally got him by phone.
>
> Bottom line, IT WAS HIS CAR AND HE COULD DO WHATEVER HE WANTED WITH THE
> NUMBERS!  He also stated that I should never call him again!  :-)
>
> If buyers do not contact registries, they have nobody to blame.
>
> Randy
> AHCA 100 Registrar
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 10:11 AM, BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Thought you Healeyphiles might enjoy this.  This attitude might explain
> why there are so many BJ8s running around now that have lost their original
> identities and acquired new ones.  People need to pay special attention to
> the correct identity of a car when they are considering buying it.
>
> A BJ8 was recently advertised by LBI, Ltd. as HBJ8L/25366 -- a Phase 1
> VIN.  However, both the VIN plate and the body plate are from a BJ7.
> I inquired twice about the reason for the discrepancy, and this is the
> response.  Note the last sentence:
>
> Hi Steve,
>    Yes, we noticed this as well and traced it back to a simple mistake.
> The tags to this car were put on another car and vice versa, everything has
> since been switched and corrected. We just need to take new photos. *Minor
> issue, thankfully it's not an important car! *
>
> Regards,
> www.LBILimited.com <http://www.lbilimited.com/>
> Next Generation Car Guys
>
> > Please answer this guy and need to get it resolved.
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Current, Past or Offsite  Offerings Inquiry
> > From: Steve Byers <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
> > Subject: [your-subject]
> >
> > Name: [your-name
> > Email: sbyers@ec.rr.com
> > Message Body:
> > Hello,
> > I inquired about this car about a week ago, but have not received a
> response.  You advertise the VIN as HBJ8L25366, which is a Phase 1 BJ8
> number, but the photo of the VIN plate shows it reads HBJ7L24221, and the
> body plate above it reads 3160 BJ7 60118.  Both of these numbers obviously
> belong to a BJ7, not a BJ8.  What is the explanation for these
> discrepancies?
> >
> > Thank you for a response.
> >
> > Vehicle inquiring about: 1964 Austin Healey 3000 MKIII
> > Phone: 252-447-8812
>
> Steve Byers
> HBJ8L/36666
> BJ8 Registry
> AHCA Delegate at Large
> Havelock, NC
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Am I missing something here? Its pretty obvious that a a B=
j8 doesn&#39;t look like a BJ7. Did the car have a BJ8 interior or was it r=
eally a BJ7?</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Randy Hicks <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:healey100m@me.com"; target=3D"_blank">healey100m@me.com</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:brea=
k-word">BTW, the car has been since sold twice in Europe. No inquiries.<spa=
n class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>Randy</div><=
/font></span><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Fe=
b 5, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Randy Hicks wrote:</div><br><div style=3D"word-wrap:=
break-word"><span style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue">Oh, they are out ther=
e. I saw a 100M (from CA) for sale on eBay a few years ago - non numbers ma=
tching and non standard trim.</span><div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue=
"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue">Several months later t=
he same car showed up for sale by a dealer in Palm Beach, FL. Now the trim =
had been re-done and it was a numbers matching car. =C2=A0???!!!!=C2=A0 Dea=
ler refused to answer my emails and I finally got him by phone.</div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Helv=
eticaNeue">Bottom line, IT WAS HIS CAR AND HE COULD DO WHATEVER HE WANTED W=
ITH THE NUMBERS!=C2=A0 He also stated that I should never call him again! =
=C2=A0:-) =C2=A0</div><div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue"><br></div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue">If buyers do not contact registries,=
 they have nobody to blame.</div><div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue"><=
br></div><div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue">Randy</div><div style=3D"=
font-family:HelveticaNeue">AHCA 100 Registrar</div><div style=3D"font-famil=
y:HelveticaNeue"><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div style=
=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On F=
eb 5, 2016, at 10:11 AM, BJ8Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">sbyers@ec.rr.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div style=
=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant=
:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-inde=
nt:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style=
=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=
<span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Comic Sans MS&#39;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thou=
ght you Healeyphiles might enjoy this.=C2=A0 This attitude might explain wh=
y there are so many BJ8s running around now that have lost their original i=
dentities and acquired new ones.=C2=A0 People need to pay special attention=
 to the correct identity of a car when they are considering buying it.<u></=
u><u></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;=
font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Comic Sans =
MS&#39;;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div><div style=3D"=
margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&#39;Comic Sans MS&#39;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">A BJ8 wa=
s recently advertised by LBI, Ltd. as HBJ8L/25366 -- a Phase 1 VIN.=C2=A0 H=
owever, both the VIN plate and the body plate are from a BJ7.<u></u><u></u>=
</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-fami=
ly:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Comic Sans MS&#39;;c=
olor:rgb(0,32,96)">I inquired twice about the reason for the discrepancy, a=
nd this is the response.=C2=A0 Note the last sentence:<u></u><u></u></span>=
</div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Cali=
bri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Comic Sans MS&#39;;color:rg=
b(0,32,96)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0=
.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas">Hi Steve,<u></u><u></u></div><=
div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Yes, we noticed this as well and traced it back to a simple mi=
stake. The tags to this car were put on another car and vice versa, everyth=
ing has since been switched and corrected. We just need to take new photos.=
<span>=C2=A0</span><b>Minor issue, thankfully it&#39;s not an important car=
!<span>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></b></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.=
0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div =
style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas">Regar=
ds,<br><a href=3D"http://www.lbilimited.com/"; style=3D"color:purple;text-de=
coration:underline" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-=
decoration:none">www.LBILimited.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></div><div styl=
e=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas">Next Gene=
ration Car Guys<span>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:=
0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Conso=
las">&gt; Please answer this guy and need to get it resolved.<span>=C2=A0</=
span><u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11=
pt;font-family:Consolas">&gt; -------- Original Message --------<u></u><u><=
/u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:C=
onsolas">&gt; Subject: Current, Past or Offsite=C2=A0 Offerings Inquiry<u><=
/u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Consolas"><u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;f=
ont-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas">&gt; From: Steve Byers &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com" style=3D"color:purple;text-decoration:underline" ta=
rget=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sbyer=
s@ec.rr.com</span></a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas">&gt; Subject: [your-subject]<=
u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Consolas">&gt;<span>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D=
"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas">&gt; Name: [y=
our-name<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size=
:11pt;font-family:Consolas">&gt; Email:<span>=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"mailto=
:sbyers@ec.rr.com" style=3D"color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sbyers@ec=
.rr.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt=
;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas">&gt; Message Body:<u></u><u></u></div=
><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas"=
>&gt; Hello,<span>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in=
 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas">&gt; I inquired about th=
is car about a week ago, but have not received a response.=C2=A0 You advert=
ise the VIN as HBJ8L25366, which is a Phase 1 BJ8 number, but the photo of =
the VIN plate shows it reads HBJ7L24221, and the body plate above it reads =
3160 BJ7 60118.=C2=A0 Both of these numbers obviously belong to a BJ7, not =
a BJ8.=C2=A0 What is the explanation for these discrepancies?<u></u><u></u>=
</div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Cons=
olas">&gt;<span>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0=
in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas">&gt; Thank you for a respo=
nse.<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11p=
t;font-family:Consolas">&gt;<span>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></div><div sty=
le=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas">&gt; Veh=
icle inquiring about: 1964 Austin Healey 3000 MKIII<u></u><u></u></div><div=
 style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas">&gt;=
 Phone: <a href=3D"tel:252-447-8812" value=3D"+12524478812" target=3D"_blan=
k">252-447-8812</a><u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001p=
t;font-size:11pt;font-family:Consolas"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div style=
=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=
<span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Comic Sans MS&#39;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stev=
e Byers<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;fon=
t-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39=
;Comic Sans MS&#39;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">HBJ8L/36666<u></u><u></u></span></d=
iv><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri=
,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Comic Sans MS&#39;;color:rgb(0=
,32,96)">BJ8 Registry<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0i=
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nt-family:&#39;Comic Sans MS&#39;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">AHCA Delegate at Larg=
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