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Hear!  Hear!.... well said, Bob.

=20

There is no need for the list involving our beloved Healeys to be =
polluted with the emotional political BS that already is plentiful =
elsewhere in our country's media.

=20

Thanks

-skip-

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob =
Spidell
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 10:18 AM
To: Michael MacLean
Cc: healeys
Subject: [Healeys] OT: Re: get a load of this one..

=20

That's the problem with being a johnny-come-lately.  I'm 62, a =
fourth-generation Californian and have lived my entire life here, and I =
certainly don't feel as threatened as you do (though I've noticed that a =
lot of people tend to get paranoid as they get older).  Yes, California =
is getting crowded because just about everybody in the world, it seems, =
wants to live here.  The people freezing their asses off back east will =
likely give it some thought when they hear about our recent 70deg+ =
weather; not to mention the relative abundance of jobs--including =
yours--being created in spite of our nazi-communist-facist-socialist =
government.

Your claim that the FAA "wants to treat my 7 pound model airplane that =
does not fly out of my sight or place anyone or anything in danger like =
all aircraft and make me be licensed to fly it. of course the license is =
not free" is factually incorrect.  The truth is here: =
https://www.faa.gov/uas/model_aircraft/  =20

It took all of 10 seconds of internet searching to find this, although I =
was probably already more informed about this than you ever will be =
because I'm a private pilot and have been following this topic in the =
news and aviation publications for quite a while.  Yes, pilots really =
are concerned about this as there have already been several reported =
instances of 'near misses' with both commercial and general aviation =
aircraft.  And, your 7lb RC aircraft could do significant =
damage--possibly even cause a crash (birds have brought down aircraft, =
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549)--to a light =
aircraft traveling at speeds in excess of 100MPH, and the airlines are =
rightfully concerned about someone flying one of the larger drones into =
an airliner full of passengers (don't think it could happen? Ever hear =
about the idiots pointing lasers at aircraft?).  =20

California is such a terrible place for RC aircraft enthusiasts they =
build special 'airports'--there's one in nearby Livermore--so that the =
RC people have their own runway, airspace and parking to indulge their =
hobby.  At the park I often run at--Rancho San Antonio in Los Altos--the =
RC people had their own area and there were some conflicts so the =
terrible California people said "Hey, let's fence off part of the park =
for the RC aircraft people and tell others to stay the hell away from =
it."  Problem solved.  And, your attempt to conflate a federal agency, =
the FAA--ever ask yourself what the big 'F' stands for?--with the state =
of California get's an 'A' for creativity, but an 'F' for veracity.  =
Side note: the FAA rules seem onerous at times--the FAR, the book of =
regulations for pilots, is 2-3 inches thick of fine print--but I respect =
them because most were written because somebody--often, a lot of =
somebodies--died.  The FAA is indeed struggling with this, as they are =
trying to balance the 'rights' of the RC/drone people with the rights of =
everybody else.

I could go on, but I'm probably pushing the limit on message size, but =
I'll say one more thing: Apparently, you moved to California in '71 =
because California afforded you an opportunity for a good career; a =
career that has done so well for you that you are now able to =
contemplate retirement.  Yet you can't resist taking a swipe at the very =
state that afforded you this opportunity and enabled you to prosper.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Cheers,
Bob




On 2/13/2016 10:22 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:

I moved here in 1971. It was a very different place back then.  Not as =
crowded and not as regulated in all aspects of life.  These days you =
can't keep up with all the nanny state laws being passed every year.  =
You can be a law abiding citizen one day and a potential felon the next. =
 Every year brings more regulations and control over almost everything =
you do.  Let's not get started on the gun control issue.  Now they can =
take all your firearms with no crime having been committed. All someone =
has to do is convince a judge you MIGHT do something to yourself or =
someone else.  If that is not the thought police, I don't know what is.  =
Yes, you don't have to smog a car made before 1975, but every year some =
lame brain democrat will introduce a bill to make ALL cars have to =
undergo smog either retro actively or be destroyed even though they do =
not contribute even 1 percent of the smog to California.  That bimbo =
from the San Francisco are Fran Pavley tried to get all motorcycles have =
to undergo smog tests retroactively back many years over a certain =
engine size.  Never mind motorcycles are not ridden as much or as often =
as automobiles or are a mall percentage of all vehicles on the road.  =
Luckily it was defeated.  It all started going down hill when the =
legislature in California went for being is session for six months out =
of the year to year round.  Yes Bob I do feel free to leave this =
quagmire of rules and control of personal liberties. Every one of my =
hobbies I will pursue when I retire is now being controlled by either =
the state of California or as in my radio control hobby the federal =
government being the FAA in particular.  The FAA wants to treat my 7 =
pound model airplane that does not fly out of my sight or place anyone =
or anything in danger like all aircraft and make me be licensed to fly =
it. of course the license is not free.  You have to pay for the =
government to control you.  I retire from the railroad at the end of the =
year and am seriously eyeing Arizona as a retirement destination.  At =
least there I don't worry about  an new firearm law being passed every 5 =
minutes.

Mike MacLean =20

=20

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D'>Hear!=C2=A0 Hear!.... well said, Bob.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>There is no need for =
the list involving our beloved Healeys to be polluted with the emotional =
political BS that already is plentiful elsewhere in our country's =
media.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>-skip-<span =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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ext'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 14, 2016 10:18 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Michael MacLean<br><b>Cc:</b> =
healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] OT: Re: get a load of this =
one..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>That's the problem with being a =
johnny-come-lately.&nbsp; I'm 62, a fourth-generation Californian and =
have lived my entire life here, and I certainly don't feel as threatened =
as you do (though I've noticed that a lot of people tend to get paranoid =
as they get older).&nbsp; Yes, California is getting crowded because =
just about everybody in the world, it seems, wants to live here.&nbsp; =
The people freezing their asses off back east will likely give it some =
thought when they hear about our recent 70deg+ weather; not to mention =
the relative abundance of jobs--including yours--being created in spite =
of our nazi-communist-facist-socialist government.<br><br>Your claim =
that the FAA &quot;wants to treat my 7 pound model airplane that does =
not fly out of my sight or place anyone or anything in danger like all =
aircraft and make me be licensed to fly it. of course the license is not =
free&quot; is factually incorrect.&nbsp; The truth is here: <a =
href=3D"https://www.faa.gov/uas/model_aircraft/";>https://www.faa.gov/uas/=
model_aircraft/</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><br>It took all of 10 seconds of =
internet searching to find this, although I was probably already more =
informed about this than you ever will be because I'm a private pilot =
and have been following this topic in the news and aviation publications =
for quite a while.&nbsp; Yes, pilots really are concerned about this as =
there have already been several reported instances of 'near misses' with =
both commercial and general aviation aircraft.&nbsp; And, your 7lb RC =
aircraft could do significant damage--possibly even cause a crash (birds =
have brought down aircraft, see <a =
href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549";>https://en.=
wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549</a>)--to a light aircraft =
traveling at speeds in excess of 100MPH, and the airlines are rightfully =
concerned about someone flying one of the larger drones into an airliner =
full of passengers (don't think it could happen? Ever hear about the =
idiots pointing lasers at aircraft?).&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><br>California is =
such a terrible place for RC aircraft enthusiasts they build special =
'airports'--there's one in nearby Livermore--so that the RC people have =
their own runway, airspace and parking to indulge their hobby.&nbsp; At =
the park I often run at--Rancho San Antonio in Los Altos--the RC people =
had their own area and there were some conflicts so the terrible =
California people said &quot;Hey, let's fence off part of the park for =
the RC aircraft people and tell others to stay the hell away from =
it.&quot;&nbsp; Problem solved.&nbsp; And, your attempt to conflate a =
federal agency, the FAA--ever ask yourself what the big 'F' stands =
for?--with the state of California get's an 'A' for creativity, but an =
'F' for veracity.&nbsp; Side note: the FAA rules seem onerous at =
times--the FAR, the book of regulations for pilots, is 2-3 inches thick =
of fine print--but I respect them because most were written because =
somebody--often, a lot of somebodies--died.&nbsp; The FAA is indeed =
struggling with this, as they are trying to balance the 'rights' of the =
RC/drone people with the rights of everybody else.<br><br>I could go on, =
but I'm probably pushing the limit on message size, but I'll say one =
more thing: Apparently, you moved to California in '71 because =
California afforded you an opportunity for a good career; a career that =
has done so well for you that you are now able to contemplate =
retirement.&nbsp; Yet you can't resist taking a swipe at the very state =
that afforded you this opportunity and enabled you to =
prosper.<br><br>Don't let the door hit you on the way =
out.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Bob<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 2/13/2016 10:22 PM, Michael MacLean =
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id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1455427533455_60610"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'>I moved here in 1971. It was a very different =
place back then.&nbsp; Not as crowded and not as regulated in all =
aspects of life.&nbsp; These days you can't keep up with all the nanny =
state laws being passed every year.&nbsp; You can be a law abiding =
citizen one day and a potential felon the next.&nbsp; Every year brings =
more regulations and control over almost everything you do.&nbsp; Let's =
not get started on the gun control issue.&nbsp; Now they can take all =
your firearms with no crime having been committed. All someone has to do =
is convince a judge you MIGHT do something to yourself or someone =
else.&nbsp; If that is not the thought police, I don't know what =
is.&nbsp; Yes, you don't have to smog a car made before 1975, but every =
year some lame brain democrat will introduce a bill to make ALL cars =
have to undergo smog either retro actively or be destroyed even though =
they do not contribute even 1 percent of the smog to California.&nbsp; =
That bimbo from the San Francisco are Fran Pavley tried to get all =
motorcycles have to undergo smog tests retroactively back many years =
over a certain engine size.&nbsp; Never mind motorcycles are not ridden =
as much or as often as automobiles or are a mall percentage of all =
vehicles on the road.&nbsp; Luckily it was defeated.&nbsp; It all =
started going down hill when the legislature in California went for =
being is session for six months out of the year to year round.&nbsp; Yes =
Bob I do feel free to leave this quagmire of rules and control of =
personal liberties. Every one of my hobbies I will pursue when I retire =
is now being controlled by either the state of California or as in my =
radio control hobby the federal government being the FAA in =
particular.&nbsp; The FAA wants to treat my 7 pound model airplane that =
does not fly out of my sight or place anyone or anything in danger like =
all aircraft and make me be licensed to fly it. of course the license is =
not free.&nbsp; You have to pay for the government to control you.&nbsp; =
I retire from the railroad at the end of the year and am seriously =
eyeing Arizona as a retirement destination.&nbsp; At least there I don't =
worry about&nbsp; an new firearm law being passed every 5 =
minutes.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'>Mike MacLean&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></blockquote><p =
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