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Re: [Healeys] Steering problem

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering problem
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 14:04:33 +0000 (UTC)
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Me too. It was recommended by a reputable vendor. 

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From: goldengt@cal.net 
To: warthodson@aol.com 
Cc: "healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net> 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 4:53:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering problem 

I used wheel bearing shims. Not a perfect fit, but probably good enough. I 
don't think I am qualified to comment on the effectiveness, there are too many 
odd ball things on my car. 
Ken Freese 
65 BJ8 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: warthodson@aol.com 
To: healeys@autox.team.net 
Sent: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 09:21:30 -0700 (PDT) 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering problem 

I have not tried the roller bearings in the top trunion, so I cannot comment on 
how effective they are in reducing the overall steering effort required as 
compared to a correctly set up & lubricated original front suspension. However, 
simply as a warning to anyone reading this discussion who is not completely 
familiar with all the issues, I have read that they (trunion roller bearings) 
may require shimming to obtain the proper clearance (vertical end float) of the 
kingpin & it is my understanding that this is especially difficult because no 
shims are available or machining may be required. 
Gary Hodson 
-----Original Message----- 

From: Chris Dimmock austin.healey@gmail.com 

Hi John, 
Thick oil/ Penrite Steering box grease will also make the steering heavier. 
So will under inflated tyres. 
So will an Unlubricated top Trunion phosphor bronze thrust washer, or poorly 
shimmed. I.e. Too tight. 
So will a smaller steering wheel. 
So will wide tyres. 
So will thick oil in the steering idler box. 
So will too much castor. 
I have wide (6 inch) tyres, heaps of negative camber, and a small steering 
wheel. 
I run 32 - 34 PSI in the front tyres, 2lb less in the rears. 

Yes - Penrite type steering box grease will make your steering heavier. 
To get it back to "normal", I also run these. 
https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/suspension-front/top-trunnion-bearing-kit-pair.aspx
 
No commercial interest. 

Try Roller bearing top Trunion bearings. 


Best 
Chris 




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t probably good enough. I don't think I am qualified to comment on the effe=
ctiveness, there are too many odd ball things on my car.</div><div>Ken Free=
se</div><div>65 BJ8</div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<b=
r>From: warthodson@aol.com<br>To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>Sent: Tue, 09 A=
ug 2016 09:21:30 -0700 (PDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering problem<br>=
</div><div><br></div><div>I have not tried the roller bearings in the top t=
runion, so I cannot comment on how effective they are in reducing the overa=
ll steering effort required as compared to a correctly set up &amp; lubrica=
ted original front suspension.&nbsp;However, simply as a warning to anyone =
reading this discussion who is not completely familiar with all the issues,=
 I have read that they (trunion roller bearings)&nbsp;may&nbsp;require shim=
ming to obtain the proper clearance (vertical end float) of the kingpin &am=
p; it is my understanding that this is especially difficult because no shim=
s are available or machining may be required.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Ga=
ry Hodson&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:=
 black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" data-mce-style=3D"c=
olor: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">-----Original =
Message-----<br><div><br></div>From: Chris Dimmock <a href=3D"mailto:austin=
.healey@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:austin.healey@=
gmail.com">austin.healey@gmail.com</a><br><div><br></div><div id=3D"AOLMsgP=
art_1.2_4d5a863e-0f03-4a96-852a-aa09bcba5682"><div class=3D"aolReplacedBody=
" dir=3D"auto"><div>Hi John,</div><div>Thick oil/ Penrite Steering box grea=
se will also make the steering heavier.&nbsp;</div><div>So will under infla=
ted tyres.</div><div>So will an Unlubricated top Trunion phosphor bronze th=
rust washer, or poorly shimmed. I.e. Too tight.&nbsp;</div><div>So will a s=
maller steering wheel.&nbsp;</div><div>So will wide tyres.&nbsp;</div><div>=
So will thick oil in the steering idler box.&nbsp;</div><div>So will too mu=
ch castor.&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I have wide (6 inch) tyres, hea=
ps of negative camber, and a small steering wheel.&nbsp;</div><div>I run 32=
 - 34 PSI in the front tyres, 2lb less in the rears.&nbsp;</div><div><br></=
div><div>Yes - Penrite type steering box grease will make your steering hea=
vier.&nbsp;</div><div>To get it back to "normal", I also run these.&nbsp;</=
div><div><a href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/sus=
pension-front/top-trunnion-bearing-kit-pair.aspx" target=3D"_blank" data-mc=
e-href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/suspension-fr=
ont/top-trunnion-bearing-kit-pair.aspx">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-h=
ealey/big-healey/suspension-front/top-trunnion-bearing-kit-pair.aspx</a></d=
iv><div>No commercial interest.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Try Roller b=
earing top Trunion bearings.&nbsp;</div><div><br><div><br></div>Best</div><=
div>Chris&nbsp;<br><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div></=
div><div><br></div></div></body></html>
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