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To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 05:11:18 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
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=C2=A0A friend who recently past away in January that had been rebuilding H=
ealey motors for over forty years told me he just gets them started and idl=
es them for a while and then runs them gently for a 100 miles or so, change=
s the oil and then it's your choice how careful of a break in you want to d=
o.=C2=A0 He said he never had a problem with them or the cams during break =
in.=C2=A0 Go figure.=C2=A0 I also have an article that says as soon as you =
get the motor started, run it at high rpm to seat the rings properly.=C2=A0=
 They are talking about a motorcycle, so I am not sure if applies in our ca=
se, but an interesting read.New Engine Break-in Procedure

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| New Engine Break-in ProcedureWhen a cylinder is new or overhauled the sur=
face of it's walls are honed with abrasive stones to produce a rough surfac=
e that will help wear the piston rings ... |
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| View on www.ntnoa.org | Preview by Yahoo |
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Mike MacLean=20

    On Sunday, August 28, 2016 9:16 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.=
com> wrote:
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 Ok I'm gonna ask the question:=C2=A0 Who is rat 540?A google search under =
his name seems not to reveal his identity though he is a prolific and gener=
ous contributor on several fora. The article is extensive and certainly imp=
ressive and rat does go to great lengths to convince us of his process and =
conclusions.=C2=A0 That said it flies somewhat in the face of much other ev=
idence and directs us fom one additive to=C2=A0 another.Thoughts????Best--M=
ichael Oritt
On Aug 27, 2016 12:33 AM, "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:

Talking of oil here is an interesting article...VERY LONG... on lifter wear=
 that is opening some eyes!!!
http://speedtalk.com/forum/ viewtopic.php?f=3D1&t=3D32471

Certainly has me wondering...
M

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

We never talk about oil, so ....
Anybody use this stuff?
https://www.amazon.com/Kendall -1057267-Performance-20W-50- Titanium/dp/B00=
4RNSO2M
This is the best price I've seen on (I assume it's) decent 20W-50 (and I ju=
st bought 3 cases of Valvoline @ $4.99/qt + shipping).
Bob
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Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA


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away in January that had been rebuilding Healey motors for over forty years=
 told me he just gets them started and idles them for a while and then runs=
 them gently for a 100 miles or so, changes the oil and then it's your choi=
ce how careful of a break in you want to do.&nbsp; He said he never had a p=
roblem with them or the cams during break in.&nbsp; Go figure.&nbsp; I also=
 have an article that says as soon as you get the motor started, run it at =
high rpm to seat the rings properly.&nbsp; They are talking about a motorcy=
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px; line-height:0px">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472446319724_8748"><span>Mike MacLean</sp=
an></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style=3D"display:=
 block;" class=3D"yahoo_quoted"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman=
, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: Hel=
veticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; fo=
nt-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Sunda=
y, August 28, 2016 9:16 PM, Michael Oritt &lt;michael.oritt@gmail.com&gt; w=
rote:<br></font></div> <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, =
16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br><br> =
<div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv1544666996"><div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Ok I'm gonna ask the question:&nbsp; Who is rat 540?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">A google search under his name seems not to reveal his ide=
ntity though he is a prolific and generous contributor on several fora. </d=
iv>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The article is extensive and certainly impressive and rat =
does go to great lengths to convince us of his process and conclusions.&nbs=
p; That said it flies somewhat in the face of much other evidence and direc=
ts us fom one additive to&nbsp; another.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Thoughts????</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Best--Michael Oritt</div>
<div class=3D"yiv1544666996gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yi=
v1544666996yqt0479348760" id=3D"yiv1544666996yqtfd45851"><div class=3D"yiv1=
544666996gmail_quote">On Aug 27, 2016 12:33 AM, "Michael Salter" &lt;<a rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>michaelsalter@gmail.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"yiv1544666996gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"yiv1544666996gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Talking of oil here=
 is an interesting article...VERY LONG... on lifter wear that is opening so=
me eyes!!!<br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_=
blank" href=3D"http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3D1&amp;t=3D32471=
">http://speedtalk.com/forum/ viewtopic.php?f=3D1&amp;t=3D32471</a><br clea=
r=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv1544666996gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Certain=
ly has me wondering...<br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv1544666996g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:smal=
l;">M<br clear=3D"none"></div></div><div class=3D"yiv1544666996gmail_extra"=
><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv1544666996gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 26,=
 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bob Spidell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"yiv1544666996gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><div>We never talk=
 about oil, so ....</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Anybody use thi=
s stuff?</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Kendall-1057267-=
Performance-20W-50-Titanium/dp/B004RNSO2M">https://www.amazon.com/Kendall -=
1057267-Performance-20W-50- Titanium/dp/B004RNSO2M</a></div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div>This is the best price I've seen on (I assume it's) de=
cent 20W-50 (and I just bought 3 cases of Valvoline @ $4.99/qt + shipping).=
</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Bob</div><div><br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div><span></span>------------------------------ --<br clear=3D"none">=
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