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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overheating query
From: "BJ8Healeys" <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 16:40:53 -0400
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Water pumps usually do not fail suddenly, but get noisy and leak out the
weep hole in the bottom of the pump housing when they begin to fail.  I
would suspect the thermostat failed closed, preventing the coolant from
reaching the radiator.

 

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  

 

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Simon
Lachlan
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:20 PM
To: 'Healey List'
Subject: [Healeys] Overheating query

 

Hi,

This isn't the usual one ...."my car always runs hot; what's the cure?" etc

No, this is my very own original.....

Background:-

1)      The car, MkII BT7, has never had overheating issues before today.

2)      It has a new, 12 month, modern design radiator.

3)      It has the correct type(original design) Smiths sleeved thermostat.
(5 years old +/-).

4)      The waterpump was in the car when I bought the car +/- 25 yrs ago.

Today's symptoms:- 

1)      I took it out to the pub today and, on returning, I noticed that
there was HEAT and then that the gauge was off the scale.

2)      There was plenty of coolant in the rad and it didn't seem overly
hot.

3)      I didn't have much time, but I got the impression that the rad was
not blowing steam or making more of a "cooling-off noise" than usual.

4)      I also got the impression that the engine was hotter than the rad.

Is this typical of a failed water pump?

How can one differentiate between thermostat issues and waterpump issues?

 

Any ideas?

Simon


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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Water pumps usually =
do not fail suddenly, but get noisy and leak out the weep hole in the =
bottom of the pump housing when they begin to fail.&nbsp; I would =
suspect the thermostat failed closed, preventing the coolant from =
reaching the radiator.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; =
</span><span style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Simon Lachlan<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:20 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Healey List'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Overheating =
query<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>This isn&#8217;t the usual one ....&#8221;my car always =
runs hot; what&#8217;s the cure?&#8221; etc<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>No, this is my very own =
original.....<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Background:-<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-GB><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-GB>The car, MkII BT7, has =
never had overheating issues before today.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-GB><span =
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Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-GB>It has a new, 12 =
month, modern design radiator.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-GB><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-GB>It has the correct =
type(original design) Smiths sleeved thermostat. (5 years old =
+/-).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if =
!supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-GB><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>4)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-GB>The waterpump was in =
the car when I bought the car +/- 25 yrs ago.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Today&#8217;s symptoms:- =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if =
!supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-GB><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-GB>I took it out to the =
pub today and, on returning, I noticed that there was HEAT and then that =
the gauge was off the scale.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-GB><span =
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Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-GB>There was plenty of =
coolant in the rad and it didn&#8217;t seem overly =
hot.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if =
!supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-GB><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-GB>I didn&#8217;t have =
much time, but I got the impression that the rad was not blowing steam =
or making more of a &#8220;cooling-off noise&#8221; than =
usual.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if =
!supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-GB><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>4)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-GB>I also got the =
impression that the engine was hotter than the =
rad.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Is =
this typical of a failed water pump?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>How can one differentiate between =
thermostat issues and waterpump issues?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Any ideas?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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