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Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

To: "'BJ8Healeys'" <sbyers@ec.rr.com>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge
From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:31:36 +1000
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G'day Steve

 

Sometimes I wonder how much useful trivia a bloke can fit into his head.

 

What is interesting is that there is no clear demarcation date between the
end of the BT7 Mk2 and the beginning of the BJ7. The first BJ7 was built in
January 1962 and the last BT7 Mk2 was built in June 1962. So we had a
situation that both roadster and convertible Austin-Healey 3000s were being
built at the same time and it's possible to have a BT7 Mk2 that has a more
recent build date than a BJ7. This was a boon to the sales staff as it
allowed them to offer prospective buyers the choice of both.

 

So it doesn't surprise me that a BJ7 was fitted with a hyphenated badge.

 

Is there a clear point when the hyphen was deleted? Yes I think there was,
but heavens knows when, but it's probably down to a buying clerk
somewhere/sometime who slipped up on the order and then it became too late
to do anything about it.

 

Best wishes

 

Patrick Quinn

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
BJ8Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2016 3:55 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

 

Patrick, I have an original Mk II badge (from BJ7 20111, BMC assembly date
26 June - 5 July 1962) that has the hyphen (photo attached).  I suppose it's
possible the badge was intended for a BT7 Mk II but got installed on a BJ7
instead; but at least this one data point would suggest that one can't say
for certain that the loss of the hyphen occurred with BJ7 production. 

 

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick &
Caroline Quinn
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:58 PM
To: 'Bob Haskell'; 'Bob Spidell'; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

 

G'day

 

The addition of a hyphen between Austin and Healey is a question that still
hasn't been suitably answered.

 

Attached is a short article and pics I wrote for the Oct-Dec 2015 issue of
the Australian Austin-Healey that might be of interest. I may be mistaken,
but on looking at original examples the BT7 Mk2 originally had a hyphen, but
with the introduction of the BJ7 it was deleted.

 

Badges available today do not have the hyphen.

 

Hoo Roo

 

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

 


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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>G&#8217;day Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>Sometimes I wonder how much useful trivia a bloke can =
fit into his head.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>What is =
interesting is that there is no clear demarcation date between the end =
of the BT7 Mk2 and the beginning of the BJ7. The first BJ7 was built in =
January 1962 and the last BT7 Mk2 was built in June 1962. So we had a =
situation that both roadster and convertible Austin-Healey 3000s were =
being built at the same time and it&#8217;s possible to have a BT7 Mk2 =
that has a more recent build date than a BJ7. This was a boon to the =
sales staff as it allowed them to offer prospective buyers the choice of =
both.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>So it =
doesn&#8217;t surprise me that a BJ7 was fitted with a hyphenated =
badge.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Is =
there a clear point when the hyphen was deleted? Yes I think there was, =
but heavens knows when, but it&#8217;s probably down to a buying clerk =
somewhere/sometime who slipped up on the order and then it became too =
late to do anything about it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Best =
wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Patrick =
Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>BJ8Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 13 September 2016 3:55 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Patrick, I have an original Mk II badge (from BJ7 20111, =
BMC assembly date 26 June - 5 July 1962) that has the hyphen (photo =
attached).&nbsp; I suppose it's possible the badge was intended for a =
BT7 Mk II but got installed on a BJ7 instead; but at least this one data =
point would suggest that one can't say for certain that the loss of the =
hyphen occurred with BJ7 production. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US>Steve =
Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US>BJ8 =
Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>AHCA Delegate at Large<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US>Havelock, NC&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Healeys [<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn<br>Sent: =
Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:58 PM<br>To: 'Bob Haskell'; 'Bob Spidell'; =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>Subj=
ect: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front =
badge<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>G'day<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>The addition of a hyphen between Austin and Healey is a =
question that still hasn't been suitably =
answered.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Attached is a short article and pics I wrote for the =
Oct-Dec 2015 issue of the Australian Austin-Healey that might be of =
interest. I may be mistaken, but on looking at original examples the BT7 =
Mk2 originally had a hyphen, but with the introduction of the BJ7 it was =
deleted.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Badges available today do not have the =
hyphen.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US>Blue Mountains, =
Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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