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What about the brass shifting forks? This is one of the more lucid explanations
I've seen: http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/28958/ep-additives-effects
IMO, it's pretty hard to beat this stuff:
https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=46&pcid=7 I tried it because it
seemed my OD was slower to engage when hot. I wasn't expecting it--so no
confirmation bias--but I thought the gearbox shifted a little smoother, and the
OD did engage a little quicker. Have used it for 60-80K miles or more (I really
should keep track of this stuff). Not an objective analysis, but it appears
there is less brass 'shake' suspended in the fluid at changes, and I only
change it out every 50K miles or so.
On ATF in gearboxes: Ford calls for Mercon V in the Tremec 3650 in my Mustang.
I thought shifts were a little notchy, so tried Royal Purple Synchromax on
someone's recommendation. Seemed to help a bit; almost 122K miles on the
gearbox with no issues.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
To: "Forum" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 2:14:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil
The subject of gearbox oils has be discussed on this list more than once.
I am not advocating the use of gear oil in these boxes but the subject is sure
to be raised again..
In the interests of saving some band width a couple of points.
1. No one has ever reported seeing any evidence of Extreme Pressure (EP)
additives damaging the bronze syncro rings in our gearboxes.
2. Laycock DeNormanville, the manufacturer of our overdrive units DO NOT
specify what lubricant is used in their overdrive units, they leave that up to
the manufacturer of the gearbox to which it is attached and shares its
lubricant. EP oils will not adversely affect the overdrive unit, in fact 80/90
gear oil was the factory recommendation for the TR6 with either type of
overdrive "A" or "J".
Now back to regularly scheduled program :-)
Michael S
BN1 #174
On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Derek Job < derek.c.job@gmail.com > wrote:
I agree with Steve. I'm now using Penrite GB30 Gearbox oil.
Derek
On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 4:06 PM, BJ8Healeys < sbyers@ec.rr.com > wrote:
<blockquote>
Another question that will result in a lot of different opinions. I've always
used 30-weight non-detergent oil in my gearbox and overdrive. Non-detergent
according to the theory that because there is no oil filter in the system
non-detergent oil allows any wear particles to settle out of the oil instead of
being continuously circulated through the mechanicals.
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC
From: Healeys [mailto: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net ] On Behalf Of Charlie
Schott
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:45 AM
To: Richard Kahn; Richard Ewald
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil
Will someone please tell me what weight of oil to use in a BJ8 gearbox with
overdrive. Thanks.
Regards,
Charlie Schott
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">What about the brass shifting forks? &=
nbsp;<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">This is one of the more lucid explana=
tions I've seen: </span><a href=3D"http://www.machinerylubrication.com=
/Read/28958/ep-additives-effects" style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">http://www.mac=
hinerylubrication.com/Read/28958/ep-additives-effects</a></div><div aria-la=
bel=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">IMO, it's p=
retty hard to beat this stuff: <a href=3D"https://www.redlineoil.com/p=
roduct.aspx?pid=3D46&pcid=3D7">https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?=
pid=3D46&pcid=3D7</a> I tried it because it seemed my OD was slow=
er to engage when hot. I wasn't expecting it--so no confirmation bias=
--but I thought the gearbox shifted a little smoother, and the OD did engag=
e a little quicker. Have used it for 60-80K miles or more (I really s=
hould keep track of this stuff). Not an objective analysis, but it a=
ppears there is less brass 'shake' suspended in the fluid at changes, and I=
only change it out every 50K miles or so.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose =
body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">On ATF in gearboxes: Ford =
calls for Mercon V in the Tremec 3650 in my Mustang. I thought shifts=
were a little notchy, so tried Royal Purple Synchromax on someone's recomm=
endation. Seemed to help a bit; almost 122K miles on the gearbox with=
no issues.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=
=3D"Compose body">Bob</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"co=
lor:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-fam=
ily:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #0=
00; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-fa=
mily: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Michael S=
alter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"Forum" <healeys@au=
tox.team.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 1, 2016 2:14:27 PM<br><b=
>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil<br><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;=
font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; f=
ont-size: small;">The subject of gearbox oils has be discussed on this list=
more than once.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: c=
omic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">I am not advocating the use of =
gear oil in these boxes but the subject is sure to be raised again..<br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-ser=
if;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif=
; font-size: small;">In the interests of saving some band width a couple of=
points.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic s=
ans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic san=
s ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><ol><li> No one has ever reported =
seeing any evidence of Extreme Pressure (EP) additives damaging the bronze =
syncro rings in our gearboxes.</li><li> Laycock DeNormanville, the man=
ufacturer of our overdrive units DO NOT specify what lubricant is used in t=
heir overdrive units, they leave that up to the manufacturer of the gearbox=
to which it is attached and shares its lubricant. EP oils will not a=
dversely affect the overdrive unit, in fact 80/90 gear oil was the factory =
recommendation for the TR6 with either type of overdrive "A" or "J".<br></l=
i></ol></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans m=
s,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,=
sans-serif; font-size: small;">Now back to regularly scheduled program :-)<=
br><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:c=
omic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: com=
ic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Michael S<br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:smal=
l" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: smal=
l;">BN1 #174<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote">On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Derek Job <span dir=3D"ltr"><=
<a href=3D"mailto:derek.c.job@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D=
"mailto:derek.c.job@gmail.com";>derek.c.job@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<=
br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; bor=
der-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">I agree with=
Steve. I'm now using Penrite GB30 Gearbox oil.<div><br></div><div>Derek</d=
iv></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><di=
v class=3D"h5">On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 4:06 PM, BJ8Healeys <span dir=3D"ltr"=
><<a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"; target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D=
"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com";>sbyers@ec.rr.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; b=
order-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div=
lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"m_-4732490693386536185m_4914191922555258792Wo=
rdSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 1=
1.0pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #002060;">Another question that=
will result in a lot of different opinions. I've always used 30-weig=
ht non-detergent oil in my gearbox and overdrive. Non-detergent accor=
ding to the theory that because there is no oil filter in the system non-de=
tergent oil allows any wear particles to settle out of the oil instead of b=
eing continuously circulated through the mechanicals.<span data-mce-style=
=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></sp=
an><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decor=
ation: underline;"></span></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060" data-=
mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #00206=
0;"><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-deco=
ration: underline;"></span> <span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: u=
nderline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic=
Sans MS";color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-fam=
ily: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #002060;">Steve Byers</span><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:=
#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-=
serif'; color: #002060;"><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline=
;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"tex=
t-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Comic Sans MS";color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt=
; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #002060;">HBJ8L/36666</span><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calib=
ri','sans-serif'; color: #002060;"><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration:=
underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-st=
yle=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"><=
/span></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-si=
ze: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #002060;">BJ8 Registry</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sa=
ns-serif";color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-fam=
ily: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #002060;"><span data-mce-style=3D"text-=
decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span><span =
data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: un=
derline;"></span></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060" data-mce-style=
=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #002060;">AHCA =
Delegate at Large</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"C=
alibri","sans-serif";color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-s=
ize: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #002060;"><span da=
ta-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: unde=
rline;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=
=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:=
#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS';=
color: #002060;">Havelock, NC </span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=
;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060" data=
-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color=
: #002060;"><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"t=
ext-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration:=
underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&=
quot;,"sans-serif";color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11=
.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #002060;"><span data-mce-=
style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"=
></span> <span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D=
"text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";col=
or:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans M=
S'; color: #002060;"><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" s=
tyle=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span data-mce-style=3D"t=
ext-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></=
span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padd=
ing:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #b=
5c4df 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&qu=
ot;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif=
';">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahom=
a","sans-serif"" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-b=
ounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys-bo=
unces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of <=
/b>Charlie Schott<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:45 AM<br><b>=
To:</b> Richard Kahn; Richard Ewald<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.te=
am.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox=
oil<span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-deco=
ration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underli=
ne;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div></div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" s=
tyle=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span data-mce-style=3D"t=
ext-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></=
p><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black" data-mce-style=3D"font-fami=
ly: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">Will someone please tell me what=
weight of oil to use in a BJ8 gearbox with overdrive. Thanks.<span data-mc=
e-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline=
;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"tex=
t-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";co=
lor:black" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: bl=
ack;"> <span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"t=
ext-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration:=
underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";color:black" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri=
','sans-serif'; color: black;">Regards,<span data-mce-style=3D"text-decorat=
ion: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mc=
e-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline=
;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" data-mce-sty=
le=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"> <span data-=
mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underli=
ne;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"t=
ext-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";=
color:black" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: =
black;">Charlie Schott<span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" =
style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"text-d=
ecoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Cali=
bri","sans-serif";color:black" data-mce-style=3D"font-family=
: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"> <span data-mce-style=3D"text=
-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span><span=
data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: u=
nderline;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black" dat=
a-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"></span><=
/p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blo=
ckquote></div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div></div></body></html=
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