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To: "'BJ8Healeys'" <sbyers@ec.rr.com>, "'healeys'" <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thermostats
From: <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 20:47:01 +0100
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With reference to Steve=E2=80=99s email, below.

I have bought one of the theremostats.

There may still be two remaining. Seems to be a good price.

I will buy the two of them =E2=80=93 if still poss =E2=80=93 and will =
send them both to a single address, anywhere. All to be reimbursed, at =
cost, by PayPal.

Off to Spain for a few days tomorrow, so better get moving?! Back next =
Tuesday.=20

Don=E2=80=99t know if these things sell quickly or not.

Up to you guys.

Simon

=20

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of BJ8Healeys
Sent: 10 September 2018 20:45
To: 'healeys' <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thermostats

=20

Fred, I personally believe a 160-deg. F thermostat used in an effort to =
"cool down" a Healey is useless.  A thermostat responds only to the =
temperature of the coolant flowing through it by opening up to increase =
coolant flow, and once it is open all the way at 160+, it is out of the =
loop and can't open further to cool more.  I am on the NC coast where =
winters are mild.  I once tried a 160 (non-sleeved) because I had one =
that someone gave me.  My BJ8 ran so cold that winter that I actually =
had to block part of the radiator to raise it to anywhere near normal.  =
Up there in the NC mountains, that would be even more of a problem for =
you.

I use a 187 F (86 C) New Old Stock AC sleeved thermostat (AC part number =
1572320) that I was able to score from lister Kees Oudesluijs.  I =
installed it along with an upgraded core in the radiator at the same =
time, so I can't really say how much improvement the thermostat alone =
did; but since the modification my car runs consistently at 170 - 180 in =
the hot summers of the NC coast, except when in stop-and-go traffic when =
it might make it to 190 or a bit above.  In winter, it runs at 160 - =
170.  I can see the sleeve operate as the car warms up because the gauge =
will cycle between 160 and 190 until coolant temperature stabilizes.  =
That can take up to 50 miles.

A friend placed an order later with Kees for several of the 190 F =
sleeved thermostats.  I got one of those as a spare.  Don't know if he =
has any left, or can get more.  As far as I know, the only sleeved =
thermostats available from the usual suspects are 160s and I wouldn't =
waste my money on them.

I just Googled the AC part number and came up with this source:

https://tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h

Unfortunately, it does not post to the USA (but on the bright side, it =
offers free shipping!).  Maybe you could work out a deal with a UK =
lister to buy one for you and ship it to you.  =C2=A319.99 =3D $26.04=20

=20

Steve Byers


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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>With reference to Steve=E2=80=99s email, =
below.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>I have bought one of the =
theremostats.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>There may still be two remaining. Seems to be a good =
price.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>I will buy the two of them =E2=80=93 if still poss =
=E2=80=93 and will send them both to a single address, anywhere. All to =
be reimbursed, at cost, by PayPal.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Off to Spain for a few days tomorrow, so better get =
moving?! Back next Tuesday. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Don=E2=80=99t know if these things sell quickly or =
not.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Up to you guys.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Healeys =
&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>BJ8Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 10 September 2018 20:45<br><b>To:</b> =
'healeys' &lt;Healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Thermostats<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Fred, I personally believe a 160-deg. F thermostat =
used in an effort to &quot;cool down&quot; a Healey is useless.&nbsp; A =
thermostat responds only to the temperature of the coolant flowing =
through it by opening up to increase coolant flow, and once it is open =
all the way at 160+, it is out of the loop and can't open further to =
cool more.&nbsp; I am on the NC coast where winters are mild.&nbsp; I =
once tried a 160 (non-sleeved) because I had one that someone gave =
me.&nbsp; My BJ8 ran so cold that winter that I actually had to block =
part of the radiator to raise it to anywhere near normal.&nbsp; Up there =
in the NC mountains, that would be even more of a problem for =
you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>I =
use a 187 F (86 C) New Old Stock AC sleeved thermostat (AC part number =
1572320) that I was able to score from lister Kees Oudesluijs.&nbsp; I =
installed it along with an upgraded core in the radiator at the same =
time, so I can't really say how much improvement the thermostat alone =
did; but since the modification my car runs consistently at 170 - 180 in =
the hot summers of the NC coast, except when in stop-and-go traffic when =
it might make it to 190 or a bit above.&nbsp; In winter, it runs at 160 =
- 170. &nbsp;I can see the sleeve operate as the car warms up because =
the gauge will cycle between 160 and 190 until coolant temperature =
stabilizes.&nbsp; That can take up to 50 miles.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>A =
friend placed an order later with Kees for several of the 190 F sleeved =
thermostats.&nbsp; I got one of those as a spare.&nbsp; Don't know if he =
has any left, or can get more.&nbsp; As far as I know, the only sleeved =
thermostats available from the usual suspects are 160s and I wouldn't =
waste my money on them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>I just Googled the AC part number and came up with =
this source:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><a =
href=3D"https://tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h";>https://tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h</a><o:=
p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Unfortunately, it does not post to the USA (but on =
the bright side, it offers free shipping!).&nbsp; Maybe you could work =
out a deal with a UK lister to buy one for you and ship it to you. =
&nbsp;=C2=A319.99 =3D $26.04 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060'=
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