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To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thermostats
From: Don Day <fsufan1952@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 08:43:04 -0400
Cc: healeys <Healeys@autox.team.net>
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Is a bellow type thermostat the same as a sleeved type ?  SCParts .UK has th=
ese and delivery time is one week . How many do we need ?=20
            Don=20

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 11, 2018, at 3:47 PM, <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> <simon.la=
chlan@alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:
>=20
> With reference to Steve=E2=80=99s email, below.
> I have bought one of the theremostats.
> There may still be two remaining. Seems to be a good price.
> I will buy the two of them =E2=80=93 if still poss =E2=80=93 and will send=
 them both to a single address, anywhere. All to be reimbursed, at cost, by P=
ayPal.
> Off to Spain for a few days tomorrow, so better get moving?! Back next Tue=
sday.
> Don=E2=80=99t know if these things sell quickly or not.
> Up to you guys.
> Simon
> =20
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of BJ8Healeys
> Sent: 10 September 2018 20:45
> To: 'healeys' <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thermostats
> =20
> Fred, I personally believe a 160-deg. F thermostat used in an effort to "c=
ool down" a Healey is useless.  A thermostat responds only to the temperatur=
e of the coolant flowing through it by opening up to increase coolant flow, a=
nd once it is open all the way at 160+, it is out of the loop and can't open=
 further to cool more.  I am on the NC coast where winters are mild.  I once=
 tried a 160 (non-sleeved) because I had one that someone gave me.  My BJ8 r=
an so cold that winter that I actually had to block part of the radiator to r=
aise it to anywhere near normal.  Up there in the NC mountains, that would b=
e even more of a problem for you.
> I use a 187 F (86 C) New Old Stock AC sleeved thermostat (AC part number 1=
572320) that I was able to score from lister Kees Oudesluijs.  I installed i=
t along with an upgraded core in the radiator at the same time, so I can't r=
eally say how much improvement the thermostat alone did; but since the modif=
ication my car runs consistently at 170 - 180 in the hot summers of the NC c=
oast, except when in stop-and-go traffic when it might make it to 190 or a b=
it above.  In winter, it runs at 160 - 170.  I can see the sleeve operate as=
 the car warms up because the gauge will cycle between 160 and 190 until coo=
lant temperature stabilizes.  That can take up to 50 miles.
> A friend placed an order later with Kees for several of the 190 F sleeved t=
hermostats.  I got one of those as a spare.  Don't know if he has any left, o=
r can get more.  As far as I know, the only sleeved thermostats available fr=
om the usual suspects are 160s and I wouldn't waste my money on them.
> I just Googled the AC part number and came up with this source:
> https://tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h
> Unfortunately, it does not post to the USA (but on the bright side, it off=
ers free shipping!).  Maybe you could work out a deal with a UK lister to bu=
y one for you and ship it to you.  =C2=A319.99 =3D $26.04
> =20
> Steve Byers
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Is a bellow type thermostat the same as a s=
leeved type ? &nbsp;SCParts .UK has these and delivery time is one week . Ho=
w many do we need ?&nbsp;<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Don&=
nbsp;<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>=
On Sep 11, 2018, at 3:47 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.=
plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:si=
mon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; w=
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,san=
s-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">With reference to Steve=E2=80=99s email,=
 below.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-U=
S">I have bought one of the theremostats.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There may still be two remaining. Seems=
 to be a good price.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-=
language:EN-US">I will buy the two of them =E2=80=93 if still poss =E2=80=93=
 and will send them both to a single address, anywhere. All to be reimbursed=
, at cost, by PayPal.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast=
-language:EN-US">Off to Spain for a few days tomorrow, so better get moving?=
! Back next Tuesday. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast=
-language:EN-US">Don=E2=80=99t know if these things sell quickly or not.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Up to yo=
u guys.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-U=
S">Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-=
US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:so=
lid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:heal=
eys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Beh=
alf Of </b>BJ8Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 10 September 2018 20:45<br><b>To:</b> '=
healeys' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net";>Healeys@autox.team.ne=
t</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Thermostats<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sa=
ns MS&quot;;color:#002060">Fred, I personally believe a 160-deg. F thermosta=
t used in an effort to "cool down" a Healey is useless.&nbsp; A thermostat r=
esponds only to the temperature of the coolant flowing through it by opening=
 up to increase coolant flow, and once it is open all the way at 160+, it is=
 out of the loop and can't open further to cool more.&nbsp; I am on the NC c=
oast where winters are mild.&nbsp; I once tried a 160 (non-sleeved) because I=
 had one that someone gave me.&nbsp; My BJ8 ran so cold that winter that I a=
ctually had to block part of the radiator to raise it to anywhere near norma=
l.&nbsp; Up there in the NC mountains, that would be even more of a problem f=
or you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">=
I use a 187 F (86 C) New Old Stock AC sleeved thermostat (AC part number 157=
2320) that I was able to score from lister Kees Oudesluijs.&nbsp; I installe=
d it along with an upgraded core in the radiator at the same time, so I can'=
t really say how much improvement the thermostat alone did; but since the mo=
dification my car runs consistently at 170 - 180 in the hot summers of the N=
C coast, except when in stop-and-go traffic when it might make it to 190 or a=
 bit above.&nbsp; In winter, it runs at 160 - 170. &nbsp;I can see the sleev=
e operate as the car warms up because the gauge will cycle between 160 and 1=
90 until coolant temperature stabilizes.&nbsp; That can take up to 50 miles.=
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">A frien=
d placed an order later with Kees for several of the 190 F sleeved thermosta=
ts.&nbsp; I got one of those as a spare.&nbsp; Don't know if he has any left=
, or can get more.&nbsp; As far as I know, the only sleeved thermostats avai=
lable from the usual suspects are 160s and I wouldn't waste my money on them=
.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">I just=
 Googled the AC part number and came up with this source:<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060"><a href=3D"https://tiny=
url.com/y9c6n53h">https://tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h</a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">Unfortunately, it does not po=
st to the USA (but on the bright side, it offers free shipping!).&nbsp; Mayb=
e you could work out a deal with a UK lister to buy one for you and ship it t=
o you. &nbsp;=C2=A319.99 =3D $26.04 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic S=
ans MS&quot;;color:#002060"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sa=
ns MS&quot;;color:#002060">Steve Byers</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#002060"><o=
:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>=
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