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Warren, the bumper reflectors are given in the BMC BJ7/BJ8 parts manual =
as effective from body number 76138 and up (that is approximately =
chassis 31336, but BMIHT data also gives body number 76138 for chassis =
31259.  Obviously, one is incorrect, but at this point I do not know =
which).   From Clausager, that would coincide with the change to =
separate indicator lights under the headlamps.

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Cars for West Germany and Sweden had the reflectors from the beginning =
of BJ8 production.  =20

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The reflectors and brackets are easily removed, and I've noticed that =
many of the restorations also have no external mirrors, even if they had =
them before the restorations.  Probably the thinking was that the car is =
"cleaner" without those items.

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Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

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From: Warren [mailto:flyhihealey@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 7:19 AM
To: BJ8Healeys; 'Deejay2650'; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction

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I noticed some of these cars do not have rear bumper reflectors. When =
did reflectors first appear?=20

My car #41574 built May 1967 came with reflectors on top of bumper as =
indicated in attached photo.

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WD  67 BJ8

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Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction

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Hi, Darryl  -=20

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With exactly 553 cars leaving the factory in Metallic Golden Beige =
paint, they represent 3% of total BJ8 production.  It is not true that =
all were built in calendar year 1967.  The first one (32552) was built =
14 - 15 July 1965 and sent to the Donald M. Healey Motor Company in =
Warwick.  It was Bic Healey who said that he was responsible for the =
color on BJ8s because he had always admired it on Jaguars.  Given the =
build date and destination of the first car, it is possible that it was =
intended as a "prototype" for DMHCo to evaluate how the color looked on =
an Austin-Healey.   This car still exists in private ownership in =
England.  The second car (38374) was built 4 October - 23 November 1966 =
as an Earls Court show car.  Perhaps this one was intended to gauge =
public reaction before going into production, although it seems likely =
that by that date a lot of additional Metallic Golden Beige chassis had =
already been built, painted, and delivered to Abingdon.  This car also =
still exists in England.  The third car was 40190, which began =
production on 12 January 1967.   The rest of them were built in calendar =
year 1967, but not all in chassis number sequence.  Rather, there are =
chassis numbers in sequence for groups of different sizes, interspersed =
with other colors.  The first four cars were UK Home market =
specification, the first and third had red leather trim, the second had =
red Ambla.

The first LHD car was 40202, with Black Ambla trim.  It was also a =
Personal Export Delivery car.

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516 of them were LHD (93%), 37 (7%) were RHD.  Of the RHD, 35 were UK =
Home Market, 1 went to Japan, and 1 to Switzerland.

86 had red trim (16%), 467 had black (84%).

71 LHD cars had red trim (16%),  445 had black trim (84%).  Only 1 of =
the 445 had black leather, the rest had Ambla.  No LHD cars had red =
leather.

15 RHD cars had red trim (41%), 22 had black trim (59%).  None had black =
leather, 2 had red leather.

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Distribution of the LHD Metallic Golden Beige cars through Ports of =
Entry is given in the attachment.  POEs are as identified in BMIHT data.

=20

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Deejay2650
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 10:16 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction

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G'day all,

My BJ8 was factory finished in Metallic Golden Beige (Code BG19) with a =
build date of late April early May 1967 according to my BMIHT =
Certificate and has a black interior.

According to Anders Ditlev Clausager's book "Original Austin-Healey", =
Metallic Golden Beige is a rare colour, that I am led to believe to be =
only applied to the 1967 BJ8's, with the MGB/Red interior being the =
rarest of all. Steve Byers, please chime in mate if I am wrong.

If this info is correct, any BJ8 in MGB that is NOT a '67 model then it =
is not the original colour.

Cheers,

Darryl Ross

HBJ8L/41258

Wagga Wagga NSW

Australia

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vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Warren, the bumper =
reflectors are given in the BMC BJ7/BJ8 parts manual as effective from =
body number 76138 and up (that is approximately chassis 31336, but BMIHT =
data also gives body number 76138 for chassis 31259.=C2=A0 Obviously, =
one is incorrect, but at this point I do not know which). =
=C2=A0=C2=A0From Clausager, that would coincide with the change to =
separate indicator lights under the headlamps.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Cars for West Germany and Sweden had the reflectors =
from the beginning of BJ8 production.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>The reflectors and brackets are easily removed, and =
I've noticed that many of the restorations also have no external =
mirrors, even if they had them before the restorations.=C2=A0 Probably =
the thinking was that the car is &quot;cleaner&quot; without those =
items.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; =
</span><span style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Warren [mailto:flyhihealey@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, =
October 17, 2018 7:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> BJ8Healeys; 'Deejay2650'; =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM =
Hershey auction<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I noticed =
some of these cars do not have rear bumper reflectors. When did =
reflectors first appear? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>My car =
#41574 built May 1967 came with reflectors on top of bumper as indicated =
in attached photo.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>WD&nbsp; 67 =
BJ8<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a =
href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986";>Mail</a> for =
Windows 10<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com";>BJ8Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, =
October 16, 2018 9:04 PM<br><b>To: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:deejay2650@gmail.com";>'Deejay2650'</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>S=
ubject: </b>Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey =
auction<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Hi, Darryl&nbsp; - <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>With exactly 553 cars leaving the factory in Metallic =
Golden Beige paint, they represent 3% of total BJ8 production.&nbsp; It =
is not true that all were built in calendar year 1967.&nbsp; The first =
one (32552) was built 14 - 15 July 1965 and sent to the Donald M. Healey =
Motor Company in Warwick.&nbsp; It was Bic Healey who said that he was =
responsible for the color on BJ8s because he had always admired it on =
Jaguars.&nbsp; Given the build date and destination of the first car, it =
is possible that it was intended as a &quot;prototype&quot; for DMHCo to =
evaluate how the color looked on an Austin-Healey.&nbsp;&nbsp; This car =
still exists in private ownership in England.&nbsp; The second car =
(38374) was built 4 October - 23 November 1966 as an Earls Court show =
car.&nbsp; Perhaps this one was intended to gauge public reaction before =
going into production, although it seems likely that by that date a lot =
of additional Metallic Golden Beige chassis had already been built, =
painted, and delivered to Abingdon.&nbsp; This car also still exists in =
England.&nbsp; The third car was 40190, which began production on 12 =
January 1967.&nbsp; &nbsp;The rest of them were built in calendar year =
1967, but not all in chassis number sequence.&nbsp; Rather, there are =
chassis numbers in sequence for groups of different sizes, interspersed =
with other colors.&nbsp; The first four cars were UK Home market =
specification, the first and third had red leather trim, the second had =
red Ambla.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>The first LHD car =
was 40202, with Black Ambla trim.&nbsp; It was also a Personal Export =
Delivery car.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>516 of them were LHD (93%), 37 (7%) were RHD.&nbsp; =
Of the RHD, 35 were UK Home Market, 1 went to Japan, and 1 to =
Switzerland.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>86 had red trim =
(16%), 467 had black (84%).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>71 LHD cars had red trim (16%),&nbsp; 445 had black =
trim (84%).&nbsp; Only 1 of the 445 had black leather, the rest had =
Ambla.&nbsp; No LHD cars had red leather.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>15 RHD cars had red trim (41%), 22 had black trim =
(59%). &nbsp;None had black leather, 2 had red =
leather.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Distribution of the =
LHD Metallic Golden Beige cars through Ports of Entry is given in the =
attachment.&nbsp; POEs are as identified in BMIHT =
data.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; =
</span><span style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Deejay2650<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 15, 2018 10:16 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
BJ8 at RM Hershey auction<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>G'day all,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>My BJ8 was factory finished in Metallic Golden Beige =
(Code BG19) with a build date of late April early May 1967 according to =
my BMIHT Certificate and has a black =
interior.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>According to Anders Ditlev Clausager's book =
&quot;Original Austin-Healey&quot;, Metallic Golden Beige is a rare =
colour, that I am led to believe to be only applied to the 1967 BJ8's, =
with the MGB/Red interior being the rarest of all. Steve Byers, please =
chime in mate if I am wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>If this info is correct, any BJ8 in MGB that is NOT a =
'67 model then it is not the original =
colour.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>Darryl Ross<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>HBJ8L/41258<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>Wagga Wagga NSW<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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