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Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction

To: Earl Kagna <kags@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction
From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 16:33:20 +0800
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I have a '51 Austin A90 and I can confirm the metal flake they used then
was extraordinarily fine and prone to oxidation.  In the handful of parts
of my car hidden from light, the flake and colors are absolutely stunning,
but without a decent clearcoat it comes out quite flat.  That said I am a
fan of these British fine flake metallics, with a decent clearcoat they
look one step short of iridescent or possibly "creamy".  Wish modern flakes
looked like this, they are quite elegant.

Alan

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 4:26 AM Earl Kagna <kags@shaw.ca> wrote:

> You are correct. As the owner (for 38 years) of an original Golden Beige
> Metallic (not MGB) late BJ8 (# 42845), I have done a bit of research over
> the years. From memory, approximately 550 late BJ8=E2=80=99s were produce=
d, all in
> 1967.  Approx. 50 of these were trimmed in red, the rest Black. Indeed, a=
n
> original red trimmed car is very rare.
>
> It is known that the factory did have problems with the paint =E2=80=93 m=
any cars
> had to be repainted =E2=80=93 both at the factory and the dealerships. A =
lot had
> the colour changed at the same time.  Metallic paint technology (without
> clearcoat) was not what it is today.  An original GBM BJ8 would look almo=
st
> completely silver in certain light because of the very fine aluminum flak=
e
> in the paint. Today=E2=80=99s paint technology is far superior resulting =
in truly
> beautiful GBM paint jobs on restored BJ8=E2=80=99s =E2=80=93 these cars l=
ook far better
> than anything from the factory in 1967.
>
> The colour has become quite popular on restored Healey=E2=80=99s because =
of the
> auctions over that last few years, especially Barret =E2=80=93 Jackson, w=
ho had a
> couple of restorers doing them up for them because they sold very well.
> The colour has been called sandy beige, champagne, elc. etc. but what the=
y
> have been trying to emulate is the original Golden Beige Metallic.  If th=
e
> colour is on any Healey other than a very late BJ8, it is not original to
> that car, as in the Hershey example.  I have seen the colour on almost
> every model of Healey over the years,  no reason why not, it=E2=80=99s a =
nice
> colour!
>
> At one point, there was a register of original Golden Beige Metallic cars=
,
> but I haven=E2=80=99t heard much about it in recent years.  If memory ser=
ves, I
> believe that register has now been  incorporated into Steve Beyer=E2=80=
=99 overall
> BJ8 register.
>
> Comments Steve?
>
> Earl Kagna
> Victoria, B.C. Canada
> BJ8, BT7 tri-carb
>
>
> *From:* Deejay2650 <deejay2650@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2018 7:16 PM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction
>
> G'day all,
> My BJ8 was factory finished in Metallic Golden Beige (Code BG19) with a
> build date of late April early May 1967 according to my BMIHT Certificate
> and has a black interior.
> According to Anders Ditlev Clausager's book "Original Austin-Healey",
> Metallic Golden Beige is a rare colour, that I am led to believe to be on=
ly
> applied to the 1967 BJ8's, with the MGB/Red interior being the rarest of
> all. Steve Byers, please chime in mate if I am wrong.
> If this info is correct, any BJ8 in MGB that is NOT a '67 model then it i=
s
> not the original colour.
> Cheers,
> Darryl Ross
> HBJ8L/41258
> Wagga Wagga NSW
> Australia
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have a &#39;51 Austin A90 and I can confirm the metal fl=
ake they used then was extraordinarily fine and prone to oxidation.=C2=A0 I=
n the handful of parts of my car hidden from light, the flake and colors ar=
e absolutely stunning, but without a decent clearcoat it comes out quite fl=
at.=C2=A0 That said I am a fan of these British fine flake metallics, with =
a decent clearcoat they look one step short of iridescent or possibly &quot=
;creamy&quot;.=C2=A0 Wish modern flakes looked like this, they are quite el=
egant.<div><br></div><div>Alan</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 4:26 AM Earl Kagna &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:kags@shaw.ca">kags@shaw.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Arial&#39;;COLOR:#141100">
<div>You are correct. As the owner (for 38 years) of an original Golden Bei=
ge=20
Metallic (not MGB) late BJ8 (# 42845), I have done a bit of research over t=
he=20
years. From memory, approximately 550 late BJ8=E2=80=99s were produced, all=
 in=20
1967.=C2=A0 Approx. 50 of these were trimmed in red, the rest Black. Indeed=
, an=20
original red trimmed car is very rare.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>It is known that the factory did have problems with the paint =E2=80=
=93 many cars=20
had to be repainted =E2=80=93 both at the factory and the dealerships. A lo=
t had the=20
colour changed at the same time.=C2=A0 Metallic paint technology (without=
=20
clearcoat) was not what it is today.=C2=A0 An original GBM BJ8 would look a=
lmost=20
completely silver in certain light because of the very fine aluminum flake =
in=20
the paint. Today=E2=80=99s paint technology is far superior resulting in tr=
uly beautiful=20
GBM paint jobs on restored BJ8=E2=80=99s =E2=80=93 these cars look far bett=
er than anything from=20
the factory in 1967.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>The colour has become quite popular on restored Healey=E2=80=99s becau=
se of the=20
auctions over that last few years, especially Barret =E2=80=93 Jackson, who=
 had a couple=20
of restorers doing them up for them because they sold very well.=C2=A0 The=
=20
colour has been called sandy beige, champagne, elc. etc. but what they have=
 been=20
trying to emulate is the original Golden Beige Metallic.=C2=A0 If the colou=
r is=20
on any Healey other than a very late BJ8, it is not original to that car, a=
s in=20
the Hershey example.=C2=A0 I have seen the colour on almost every model of=
=20
Healey over the years,=C2=A0 no reason why not, it=E2=80=99s a nice colour!=
</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>At one point, there was a register of original Golden Beige Metallic c=
ars,=20
but I haven=E2=80=99t heard much about it in recent years.=C2=A0 If memory =
serves, I=20
believe that register has now been=C2=A0 incorporated into Steve Beyer=E2=
=80=99 overall=20
BJ8 register.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Comments Steve?</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Arial&#39;;COLOR:#141100">Ear=
l=20
Kagna<br>Victoria, B.C. Canada<br>BJ8, BT7 tri-carb</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt tahoma">
<div><font color=3D"#141100" size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#141100" size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"deejay2650@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:deejay26=
50@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">Deejay2650</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 15, 2018 7:16 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction</div></div></d=
iv>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>G&#39;day all,</div>
<div>My BJ8 was factory finished in Metallic Golden Beige (Code BG19) with =
a=20
build date of late April early May 1967 according to my BMIHT Certificate a=
nd=20
has a black interior.</div>
<div>According to Anders Ditlev Clausager&#39;s book &quot;Original Austin-=
Healey&quot;,=20
Metallic Golden Beige is a rare colour, that I am led to believe to be only=
=20
applied to the 1967 BJ8&#39;s, with the MGB/Red interior being the rarest o=
f all.=20
Steve Byers, please chime in mate if I am wrong.</div>
<div>If this info is correct, any BJ8 in MGB that is NOT a &#39;67 model th=
en it is=20
not the original colour.</div>
<div>Cheers,<br></div>
<div>Darryl Ross</div>
<div>HBJ8L/41258</div>
<div>Wagga Wagga NSW<br></div>
<div>Australia<br></div></div>
<p><font color=3D"#141100" face=3D"Arial"></font></p></div></div></div></di=
v>
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