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To: "'Michael Oritt'" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>, <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Cooler?
From: "Bruce Steele" <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 11:33:43 -0800
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That was me.  I added the Moss cooler and the air shovel, temp dropped =
10 degrees.  I live in southern California.

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Bruce Steele

Brea, CA

1960 BN7

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Michael Oritt
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:30 PM
To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Cooler?

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Simon--

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I believe the ideal temperature range for oil is between 230 and 250 =
degrees so perhaps you should take your oil's temperature after a good =
run to see if an oil cooler is indicated.  There is such a thing as oil =
being too cool as one of the things we want to happen is for oil to get =
warm enough--above 212--to cook off any water that may have formed from =
condensation.=20

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Without a hole in the shroud I doubt that the oil cooler would do very =
much cooling though someone recently posted a picture of a sheet metal =
"shovel" that mounts just beneath the shroud to hopefully duct air up to =
an oil cooler.

=20

Best--Michael Oritt

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 5:26 PM <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com =

My nephew=E2=80=99s BJ8 came with a boot full of mixed blessings from =
its PO. Amongst all the manuals and stuff were two boxes containing an =
oil cooler and mounting kit. NOS.(Actually, these items dated back quite =
a while=E2=80=A62 or 3 POs back).

So, he gave them to me as he wasn=E2=80=99t remotely interested in =
fitting them. I took them back to the UK and determined that I might fit =
the cooler =E2=80=9Cone day=E2=80=9D. Well, as the car is up on a stand =
with the radiator out, it seems that the day may have arrived. Minimal =
amount of work compared to having to do it from scratch? Now:-

1.      For someone who lives in a temperate climate and who seldom goes all =
that fast in his Healey, how much benefit is there in a cooler?
2.      The Denis Welch brackets look pretty good. Fit onto the lower =
radiator mounts. Designed for their cooler but I think mine can be =
shoehorned in.

Has anyone tried these brackets?

How easy/hard to fit?

3.      I will not be cutting any holes. The cooler would sit in front of the =
radiator in line with the lower mounts.=20

Is it a waste of time to put the cooler in there without a dedicated =
hole?

Will I gain as much heat by blocking some airflow to the radiator as I =
lose with the cooler?

4.      Seems like an oil cooler may just be a waste of effort???

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Any thoughts?

Simon

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>That was me.=C2=A0 I =
added the Moss cooler and the air shovel, temp dropped 10 degrees.=C2=A0 =
I live in southern California.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce =
Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, =
CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 =
BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:30 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com<br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys =
&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil =
Cooler?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Simon--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I believe the ideal =
temperature range for oil is between 230 and 250 degrees so perhaps you =
should take your oil's temperature after a good run to see if an oil =
cooler is indicated.&nbsp; There is such a thing as oil being too cool =
as one of the things we want to happen is for oil to get warm =
enough--above 212--to cook off any water that may have formed from =
condensation.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Without a hole in the =
shroud I doubt that the oil cooler would do very much cooling though =
someone recently posted a picture of a sheet metal &quot;shovel&quot; =
that mounts just beneath the shroud to hopefully duct air up to an oil =
cooler.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 5:26 PM &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>My nephew=E2=80=99s BJ8 came with a boot full of mixed =
blessings from its PO. Amongst all the manuals and stuff were two boxes =
containing an oil cooler and mounting kit. NOS.(Actually, these items =
dated back quite a while=E2=80=A62 or 3 POs =
back).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>So, he gave them to me as he wasn=E2=80=99t remotely =
interested in fitting them. I took them back to the UK and determined =
that I might fit the cooler =E2=80=9Cone day=E2=80=9D. Well, as the car =
is up on a stand with the radiator out, it seems that the day may have =
arrived. Minimal amount of work compared to having to do it from =
scratch? Now:-<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol start=3D1 type=3D1><li =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 =
level1 lfo1'><span lang=3DEN-GB>For someone who lives in a temperate =
climate and who seldom goes all that fast in his Healey, how much =
benefit is there in a cooler?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 =
level1 lfo1'><span lang=3DEN-GB>The Denis Welch brackets look pretty =
good. Fit onto the lower radiator mounts. Designed for their cooler but =
I think mine can be shoehorned in.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Has anyone tried these brackets?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>How easy/hard to fit?<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol start=3D3 =
type=3D1><li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 =
level1 lfo2'><span lang=3DEN-GB>I will not be cutting any holes. The =
cooler would sit in front of the radiator in line with the lower mounts. =
<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Is it a waste of time to put the cooler in there without a =
dedicated hole?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Will I gain as much heat by blocking some airflow to the =
radiator as I lose with the cooler?<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol start=3D4 =
type=3D1><li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 =
level1 lfo3'><span lang=3DEN-GB>Seems like an oil cooler may just be a =
waste of effort???<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Any thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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