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We tow our 2012 Ford Escape manual transmission flat behind our Motorhome.
Sometimes we are moving at over 70 mph. No problems at all. We've probably
done this for 70,000 miles?
On the other hand, I'd probably not do this with the Healey because the
motorhome really can't detect the weight of the car. If something went
wrong we'd not know about it until some other driver motioned to us, or we
arrived at destination with beat up car. The Healey just seems more
delicate than the Ford. In our case, we tow the Healey in an enclosed
(weather-tight) car hauler trailer behind the Motorhome.
On the other, other hand, you mention you want to do this behind an SUV.
You would probably notice if something was amiss with the Healey behind an
SUV. The things that can go wrong are 3 fold:
1. The car can somehow slip out of neutral into one of the gears. At
which point, the engine will probably overrev and be destroyed --- or put so
much drag on the SUV that you'd recognize an issue right away and suffer no
bad issues.
2. The car's steering can get skew wiff and you find yourself
dragging a car which wants to move to a different lane. Probably easily
avoided by bungie cord tying the steering wheel to have a strong preference
for going straight. (Don't overdo it though, the steering wheel of a towed
car must be allowed latitude to move a bit.)
3. The car's brakes might get hot and expand to the point that the
brakes start to drag. Tire damage could ensue. Again, you'd probably
notice the issue before damage happened.
In other words, I'd say go for it with the SUV. Although you'll probably
find the Healey is pretty dirty when you arrive at your destination . J
Best wishes..
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert
Begani
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 5:20 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Towing a Healey flat
I am considering towing my BJ8 with a tow bar attached to the front of the
frame. The problem I find is that on most sites I have searched, listeners
say you have to disconnect the propeller/driveshaft because the transmission
will not be lubricating the gears. As our Healey's are not automatic
transmissions I do not see the why not. Another group of comment is that
the manual trans gears would not be lubricated. Although I am not expert in
the transmission it seems to me that with all the oil we put in the Healey
trans all the gears must be at least half immersed and well lubricated.
I have spoken to several Healey drivers at Conclave and shows over the past
few years who have towed their Healey flat to the show and all have said
"works great without any problems with the trans connected". My own
experience was with my girlfriends soon to become wife in 1968 to get her
TR3 to Phoenix. I got a driveaway deal (remember those?) from Budget Chicago
to take a car to Phoenix. I rented a bumper hitch from Uhaul with clamps to
the bumper of her 1962 TR3. Remember big bumpers on American Cars! I drove
it via US 66 all the way to Phoenix through a rain and sleet storm in
November. It followed me very nicely. We drove it for 2 years around AZ
until I finished my MBA and never had a transmission problem.
Oh yes, back in the day, we were told that British Cars were designed to
have a person in the drivers seat so if you tow one you should put a weight
in the drivers seat otherwise the car will want to lean or list to
starboard. Never understood that comment. Nevertheless, I put a duffel bag
of clothes just in case. Again, it followed me very nicely.
So I want to use my 3.8 V6 Chrysler Pacifica 2005 SUV which can handle 3500
lbs up to 5000 lbs. if you are pulling flat with very little load on the
tongue. So it can handle the load. I have pictures of a tow bar made for the
BJ8 which bolts to the front of the frame my friend can fabricate. I seek
comments from the list.
Who has experience with Towing Flat?
Regards,
Bob Begani
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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>We tow our 2012 Ford =
Escape manual transmission flat behind our Motorhome. Sometimes we =
are moving at over 70 mph. No problems at all. We’ve =
probably done this for 70,000 miles? =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>On the other hand, =
I’d probably not do this with the Healey because the motorhome =
really can’t detect the weight of the car. If something went =
wrong we’d not know about it until some other driver motioned to =
us, or we arrived at destination with beat up car. The =
Healey just seems more delicate than the Ford. In our case, we tow =
the Healey in an enclosed (weather-tight) car hauler trailer behind the =
Motorhome. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>On the other, other =
hand, you mention you want to do this behind an SUV. You =
would probably notice if something was amiss with the Healey behind an =
SUV. The things that can go wrong are 3 fold: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if =
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style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'> =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'> The =
car can somehow slip out of neutral into one of the gears. At =
which point, the engine will probably overrev and be destroyed --- or =
put so much drag on the SUV that you’d recognize an issue right =
away and suffer no bad issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'> =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'> The =
car’s steering can get skew wiff and you find yourself dragging a =
car which wants to move to a different lane. Probably easily =
avoided by bungie cord tying the steering wheel to have a strong =
preference for going straight. (Don’t overdo it though, the =
steering wheel of a towed car must be allowed latitude to move a =
bit.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if =
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style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'> =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The =
car’s brakes might get hot and expand to the point that the brakes =
start to drag. Tire damage could ensue. Again, =
you’d probably notice the issue before damage =
happened.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>In other words, I’d say go for it =
with the SUV. Although you’ll probably find the Healey =
is pretty dirty when you arrive at your destination … </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Best =
wishes….<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Robert Begani<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 9, 2019 5:20 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] =
Towing a Healey flat<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I am =
considering towing my BJ8 with a tow bar attached to the front of the =
frame. The problem I find is that on most sites I have searched, =
listeners say you have to disconnect the propeller/driveshaft =
because the transmission will not be lubricating the gears. As our =
Healey’s are not automatic transmissions I do not see the why not. =
Another group of comment is that the manual trans gears would not =
be lubricated. Although I am not expert in the transmission it seems to =
me that with all the oil we put in the Healey trans all the gears must =
be at least half immersed and well lubricated. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I have =
spoken to several Healey drivers at Conclave and shows over the past few =
years who have towed their Healey flat to the show and all have said =
“works great without any problems with the trans =
connected”. My own experience was with my girlfriends soon =
to become wife in 1968 to get her TR3 to Phoenix. I got a driveaway deal =
(remember those?) from Budget Chicago to take a car to Phoenix. I rented =
a bumper hitch from Uhaul with clamps to the bumper of her 1962 =
TR3. Remember big bumpers on American Cars! I drove it via US 66 =
all the way to Phoenix through a rain and sleet storm in November. =
It followed me very nicely. We drove it for 2 years around =
AZ until I finished my MBA and never had a transmission =
problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Oh yes, back =
in the day, we were told that British Cars were designed to have a =
person in the drivers seat so if you tow one you should put a weight in =
the drivers seat otherwise the car will want to lean or list to =
starboard. Never understood that comment. Nevertheless, I put a =
duffel bag of clothes just in case. Again, it followed me very =
nicely.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>So I want to =
use my 3.8 V6 Chrysler Pacifica 2005 SUV which can handle 3500 lbs up to =
5000 lbs. if you are pulling flat with very little load on the tongue. =
So it can handle the load. I have pictures of a tow bar made for the BJ8 =
which bolts to the front of the frame my friend can =
fabricate. I seek comments from the =
list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Who has =
experience with Towing Flat?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Regards,<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Bob =
Begani<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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