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Re: [Healeys] silicone brake fluid

To: bgdrab@redzone.ca, healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] silicone brake fluid
From: warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2019 14:03:46 +0000 (UTC)
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What brand master cylinder did you get? Not what supplier did you buy it fr=
om. I would suggest contacting the manufacturer & ask what their reason is =
for the warning message.=C2=A0I read somewhere that all seals are designed/=
intended to swell when in contact with any brake fluid. A few years ago I p=
ut a new seal in DOT4 & a new seal in DOT 5 fluid & after a couple of month=
s, I could not measure any difference in their sizes.=C2=A0
By "bypassed" do you mean the peddle went to the floor? It that is the case=
 & there are no leaks evident, It sounds like your "check valve" in the mas=
ter cylinder is intermittingly malfunctioning. Maybe there is debris in the=
 master cylinder or some other cause. You might try simply replacing the se=
als including the check valve assembly.=C2=A0Gary Hodson=C2=A0

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Drab <bgdrab@redzone.ca>
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Jun 16, 2019 7:23 am
Subject: [Healeys] silicone brake fluid

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42103 div.yiv0877942103WordSection1 {} --&gt;Last week I completed a drivin=
g tour in our BJ8. It was a great tour and everything ran well except for o=
ne thing. =C2=A04 or 5 times, when I used the clutch, the clutch master cyl=
inder bypassed. The rest of the time it worked well. As I don=E2=80=99t wan=
t to be caught without a clutch at a later date I am changing the clutch ma=
ster cylinder. I have received a replacement and am preparing to install it=
. On the box is a quick summary of the bleeding procedure under a warning =
=E2=80=93 =E2=80=9CUsing Silicon Brake fluid will void warranty=E2=80=9D. I=
 have used silicon fluid for well over 10 tears and never experienced any p=
roblems with it and have never seen or heard of this type of warning before=
. I have never heard of any destructive qualities of Silicon fluid. My ques=
tion is =E2=80=93 does anyone have any idea what it is about. For me to cha=
nge to Dot4 fluid is quite a big deal as I would be changing out the clutch=
 as well as the brake system seeing as they share a common reservoir. I=E2=
=80=99d appreciate any comments on the warning. Brian Drab BJ8  =C2=A0 ____=
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<div>What brand master cylinder did you get? Not what supplier did you buy =
it from. I would suggest contacting the manufacturer &amp; ask what their r=
eason is for the warning message.&nbsp;</div>

<div>I read somewhere that all seals are designed/intended to swell when in=
 contact with any brake fluid. A few years ago I put a new seal in DOT4 &am=
p; a new seal in DOT 5 fluid &amp; after a couple of months, I could not me=
asure any difference in their sizes.&nbsp;</div>

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</div>

<div>By "bypassed" do you mean the peddle went to the floor? It that is the=
 case &amp; there are no leaks evident, It sounds like your "check valve" i=
n the master cylinder is intermittingly malfunctioning. Maybe there is debr=
is in the master cylinder or some other cause. You might try simply replaci=
ng the seals including the check valve assembly.&nbsp;</div>

<div>Gary Hodson&nbsp;</div>
<br>
<br>

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Original Message-----<br>
From: Brian Drab &lt;bgdrab@redzone.ca&gt;<br>
To: healeys@autox.team.net &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Jun 16, 2019 7:23 am<br>
Subject: [Healeys] silicone brake fluid<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv0877942103MsoNormal">Last week I completed a driving tour =
in our BJ8. It was a great tour and everything ran well except for one thin=
g. &nbsp;4 or 5 times, when I used the clutch, the clutch master cylinder b=
ypassed. The rest of the time it worked well. As I don=E2=80=99t
 want to be caught without a clutch at a later date I am changing the clutc=
h master cylinder. I have received a replacement and am preparing to instal=
l it.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0877942103MsoNormal">On the box is a quick summary of the =
bleeding procedure under a warning =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9CUsing Silicon Brake f=
luid will void warranty=E2=80=9D. I have used silicon fluid for well over 1=
0 tears and never experienced any problems with it and have never seen or
 heard of this type of warning before. I have never heard of any destructiv=
e qualities of Silicon fluid.
</div>
=20

<div class=3D"yiv0877942103MsoNormal">My question is =E2=80=93 does anyone =
have any idea what it is about.
</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0877942103MsoNormal">For me to change to Dot4 fluid is qui=
te a big deal as I would be changing out the clutch as well as the brake sy=
stem seeing as they share a common reservoir.
</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0877942103MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99d appreciate any comments o=
n the warning.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0877942103MsoNormal">Brian Drab</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0877942103MsoNormal">BJ8</div>
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