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Re: [Healeys] Door seal retaining clip question

To: Oliver Viitamaki <ov@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Door seal retaining clip question
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:59:55 -0400
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Oops ... sorry my bad.
The correct Moss number for the aluminum backed door seal is 803-400.
The combination actually works very if installed correctly but don't ever
try to get the seal off.

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 10:39 AM Oliver Viitamaki, <ov@telus.net> wrote:

>
>     To complete this discovery work, with help from the list, and some
> personal emails, the clip that Roger Moment used in the article is Moss
> part number 249-795. There are likely other suppliers.
>
>     The clip, Moss part number 803-410 suggested by Michael Salter, is
> used to hold the furry inside door window seal, and is a little different
> in shape, than that used in Roger's article. It may work equally well.
>
>     At this time both clips are available at Moss Motors.
>
>     ov
> On 23-Jun.-2019 8:23 a.m., Stephen Hutchings wrote:
>
> Also, see John Sim=E2=80=99s site for the installation instructions.
> http://healey6.com/Technical/BristleflexInstructions.pdf
>
> There are definitely a couple of details that you have to be told about
> that help keep everything in place.
> I put mine in about four years ago, and so far, so good.
>
> Good luck,
> Stephen, BJ8
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:00 AM, HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Most of us who have tried to fit door seals, even with the clips, have
> found they don't stay in place.  Weatherstripping adhesive doesn't help
> either.  The only solution I'm aware of is the Bristleflex seals sold by
> Martin MacGregor.   https://www.macgregorukcarparts.com/  Don't bother
> trying to order online as Martin just isn't very good at responding that
> way.  Call him by phone, spend the money, and save yourself hours of
> frustration.
>
> Happy Healeying,
> Rick Neville
>
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 9:46 PM Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure that they are still available Oliver but the moss numbers
>> that I have is 803-410.
>>
>> I have some if you have no luck there.
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 7:52 PM Oliver Viitamaki <ov@telus.net> wrote:
>>
>>>      Hi,
>>>
>>>      In Roger Moment's Healey Restoration Methods, (Austin-Healey
>>> Magazine, Aug-Sept 2010), Restoration Tips, Part 31, Page 30, photograp=
h
>>> #28 he shows a clip which is inserted into the door seal, to better
>>> retain it. Does anyone have a manufacturer and part number for that cli=
p?
>>>
>>>      I'm in the process of installing the door seals, on a BJ8, and jus=
t
>>> as Roger states, the seal is now manufactured with an aluminum core,
>>> instead of steel,  and the aluminum core fails to adequately retain the
>>> seal, on the flange.
>>>
>>>      Thanks in advance
>>>
>>>      ov
>>>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Oops ... sorry my bad.<div dir=3D"auto"=
>The correct Moss number for the aluminum backed door seal is 803-400.</div=
><div dir=3D"auto">The combination actually works very if installed correct=
ly but don&#39;t ever try to get the seal off.=C2=A0</div></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 24, 2=
019, 10:39 AM Oliver Viitamaki, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ov@telus.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">ov@telus.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 To complete this discovery work, with help from t=
he list, and
      some personal emails, the clip that Roger Moment used in the
      article is Moss part number 249-795. There are likely other
      suppliers.</p>
    <p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The clip, Moss part number 803-410 suggested by M=
ichael
      Salter, is used to hold the furry inside door window seal, and is
      a little different in shape, than that used in Roger&#39;s article. I=
t
      may work equally well.</p>
    <p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 At this time both clips are available at Moss Mot=
ors.<br>
    </p>
    <p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ov<br>
    </p>
    <div class=3D"m_3913409535396421666m_3251635250388901619moz-cite-prefix=
">On 23-Jun.-2019 8:23 a.m., Stephen
      Hutchings wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      Also, see John Sim=E2=80=99s site for the installation instructions.
      <div><a href=3D"http://healey6.com/Technical/BristleflexInstructions.=
pdf" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://healey6.com/Tec=
hnical/BristleflexInstructions.pdf</a></div>
      <div><br>
        <div>There are definitely a couple of details that you
          have to be told about that help keep everything in place.</div>
        <div>I put mine in about four years ago, and so far, so
          good.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Good luck,</div>
        <div>Stephen, BJ8</div>
        <div><br>
          <div><br>
            <blockquote type=3D"cite">
              <div>On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:00 AM, HealeyRick
                &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferre=
r noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                wrote:</div>
              <br class=3D"m_3913409535396421666m_3251635250388901619Apple-=
interchange-newline">
              <div>
                <div dir=3D"ltr">Most of us who have tried to fit
                  door seals, even with the clips, have found they don&#39;=
t
                  stay in place.=C2=A0 Weatherstripping adhesive doesn&#39;=
t help
                  either.=C2=A0 The only solution I&#39;m aware of is the
                  Bristleflex seals sold by Martin MacGregor.=C2=A0=C2=A0
                  <a href=3D"https://www.macgregorukcarparts.com/"; rel=3D"n=
oreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.macgregorukcarparts.com=
/</a>=C2=A0
                  Don&#39;t bother trying to order online as Martin just
                  isn&#39;t very good at responding that way.=C2=A0 Call hi=
m by
                  phone, spend the money, and save yourself hours of
                  frustration.
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Happy Healeying,</div>
                  <div>Rick Neville</div>
                </div>
                <br>
                <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                  <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 22, 201=
9
                    at 9:46 PM Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael=
salter@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michaelsa=
lter@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                    <div dir=3D"ltr">
                      <div class=3D"gmail_default">I&#39;m not
                        sure that they are still available Oliver but
                        the moss numbers that I have is 803-410.</div>
                      <div class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div class=3D"gmail_default">I have some
                        if you have no luck there.<br>
                      </div>
                      <div class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div class=3D"gmail_default">M<br>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <br>
                    <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                      <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 22,
                        2019 at 7:52 PM Oliver Viitamaki &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:ov@telus.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ov@telus.=
net</a>&gt;
                        wrote:<br>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hi,<br>
                        <br>
                        =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 In Roger Moment&#39;s Heal=
ey Restoration
                        Methods, (Austin-Healey <br>
                        Magazine, Aug-Sept 2010), Restoration Tips, Part
                        31, Page 30, photograph <br>
                        #28 he shows a clip which is inserted into the
                        door seal, to better <br>
                        retain it. Does anyone have a manufacturer and
                        part number for that clip?<br>
                        <br>
                        =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I&#39;m in the process of =
installing the door
                        seals, on a BJ8, and just <br>
                        as Roger states, the seal is now manufactured
                        with an aluminum core, <br>
                        instead of steel,=C2=A0 and the aluminum core fails
                        to adequately retain the <br>
                        seal, on the flange.<br>
                        <br>
                        =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Thanks in advance<br>
                        <br>
                        =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ov<br>
                        <br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </div>
                  </blockquote>
                </div>
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