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I found an obscure British car parts dealer in an industrial area in San
Jose (or maybe Los Altos). They had an OEM front bumper for a BJ8--I
presume it would fit any 6-cyl car--on the wall. The owner of the shop
told me he'd had it for years; no one wanted it because it cost a
hundred or so bucks more than the crappy repops.
Who's doing this? Surely, no one on this list who's complaining about
crappy fitting parts has sprung for the cheap version over the quality
one, right (I'm guilty; I bought a cheaper rear brake cylinder over the
pricier one a couple years ago)?
Bob
On 7/12/2019 6:38 PM, Don via Healeys wrote:
> When I bought front and rear bumpers for my 67 BJ-8 from Moss . I had
> a show coming up and I needed them quick . Well they werenâ??t even
> close to fitting. When I called Moss back , the salesman said , when
> you ordered them , didnâ??t the salesman tell you they will need to
> modified to fit ? Sent them back , ordered a new set from AH Spares .
> Fit first time .
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Don ,
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 12, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net
>
>> Â Â Â Â As far as repops go, I asked a Moss rep one time why a lot of
>> the reproduction parts and the rubber was so bad and did not fit
>> well. He told me that he could sell better parts for our cars but
>> very few people will buy them. If he lists both a premium part and a
>> cheaper version, almost 95% will buy the cheap part. It would be
>> foolish to inventory such slow moving parts, so they sell what the
>> majority will buy. Everyone wants the parts to be cheap. S
>> Â Â Â Â So, I guess you get what you pay for.
>> Mike MacLean
>>
>> On Friday, July 12, 2019, 8:29:19 AM PDT, Richard Collins
>>
>>
>> Yup, fully agree with the rant:
>>
>> The rear bumper brackets were not even close to fitting the
>> attachment holes on my rear bumper, both purchased at the same time
>> from the vendor. As a result, one each of the bracket bolts hold the
>> bumper to the car with the other hole in the bumper empty. Looks
>> weird but doesnâ??t impact drivability. The bumper is so thin that any
>> rear ender will destroy it anyway.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Richard C
>> BN7 440
>>
>> On Jul 11, 2019, at 23:41, Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com
>>
>> Amen to that. The inner forks of front bumper mounting brackets I
>> bought a number of years ago were a bit over an inch shorter than the
>> outer forks, which required sectioning and welding in extensions to
>> bring them level. In retrospect, I probably should have taken an
>> inch out of the outer forks, as the bumper sits too far proud of the
>> shroud. Iâ??d totally forgotten about this until I took my aux lamps
>> off and reinstalled the bumper for a show this weekend. After the
>> show, the bumper is coming off and the lamps are going back on.
>>
>> Bruce Steele
>>
>> Brea, CA
>>
>> 1960 BN7
>>
>> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of
>> *Michael Salter
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 11, 2019 1:39 PM
>> *To:* Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Mind if I Rant?
>>
>> Mike you are pretty well "on the money" there.
>>
>> I have encountered endless problems with repop parts. I fail to
>> understand why manufacturers have so much difficulty getting things
>> right.
>>
>> My suspicion is that we are all partly to blame for accepting the
>> junk and trying to make it work.
>>
>> I will go to untold lengths to purchase a good used part any time as
>> so doing invariably saves me hours and hours of frustration...
>>
>> I feel your pain.
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019, 4:19 PM Mike MacLean, <rrengineer.mike@att.net
>>
>> I am beginning to understand what a restorer friend of mine once
>> told me. He said he could restore three BJ8 cars in the time it
>> took to do a 100. Virtually no parts I have bought from the usual
>> suspects for my BN2 are easy to install. Nothing fits like it
>> was made for the car. This morning I made an attempt to bolt up
>> the two bump stop boxes over the rear axle. None of the holes in
>> the part lined up with the holes in the body above the rear
>> axle. I will have to auger out at least three of the holes in
>> the bump stop box to get all four bolts in. This car is fighting
>> me every step of the way. I guess it's like my restorer friend
>> who has since passed told me when he sold me that rolling frame
>> with a few body panels on it, "Go ahead buy the car, it will give
>> you a reason to live". I am beginning to understand what he
>> meant. Half the time I am pulling my hair out and inventing new
>> curse words, but I go out to that garage everyday and try to
>> accomplish something on the car, even if I end up beating my head
>> against the wall, I keep coming back. Rant over.
>>
>> Mike MacLean
>>
>> ______________________________________________
>>
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<p>I found an obscure British car parts dealer in an industrial area
in San Jose (or maybe Los Altos). They had an OEM front bumper
for a BJ8--I presume it would fit any 6-cyl car--on the wall. The
owner of the shop told me he'd had it for years; no one wanted it
because it cost a hundred or so bucks more than the crappy repops.</p>
<p>Who's doing this? Surely, no one on this list who's complaining
about crappy fitting parts has sprung for the cheap version over
the quality one, right (I'm guilty; I bought a cheaper rear brake
cylinder over the pricier one a couple years ago)?<br>
</p>
<p>Bob</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/12/2019 6:38 PM, Don via Healeys
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When I bought front and rear bumpers for my 67 BJ-8 from Moss . I
had a show coming up and I needed them quick . Well they werenâ??t
even close to fitting. When I called Moss back , the salesman said
, when you ordered them , didnâ??t the salesman tell you they will
need to modified to fit ? Sent them back , ordered a new set from
AH Spares . Fit first time .Â
<div>      Don , <br>
<br>
<div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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On Jul 12, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Michael MacLean <<a
href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Â Â Â Â As far as repops
go, I asked a Moss rep one time why a lot of the
reproduction parts and the rubber was so bad and did not
fit well. He told me that he could sell better parts
for our cars but very few people will buy them. If he
lists both a premium part and a cheaper version, almost
95% will buy the cheap part. It would be foolish to
inventory such slow moving parts, so they sell what the
majority will buy. Everyone wants the parts to be
cheap. S</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Â Â Â Â So, I guess you
get what you pay for.</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Mike MacLean<br>
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<div> On Friday, July 12, 2019, 8:29:19 AM PDT, Richard
Collins <<a href="mailto:gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com";
moz-do-not-send="true">gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com</a>>
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<div>The rear bumper brackets were not even
close to fitting the attachment holes on my
rear bumper, both purchased at the same time
from the vendor. As a result, one each of the
bracket bolts hold the bumper to the car with
the other hole in the bumper empty. Looks
weird but doesnâ??t impact drivability. The
bumper is so thin that any rear ender will
destroy it anyway.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<div dir="ltr">Regards,
<div>Richard C</div>
<div>BN7 440</div>
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On Jul 11, 2019, at 23:41, Bruce Steele
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moz-do-not-send="true">healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a>>
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style="">Amen to that. The inner forks of
front bumper mounting brackets I bought a
number of years ago were a bit over an
inch shorter than the outer forks, which
required sectioning and welding in
extensions to bring them level. In
retrospect, I probably should have taken
an inch out of the outer forks, as the
bumper sits too far proud of the shroud.Â
Iâ??d totally forgotten about this until I
took my aux lamps off and reinstalled the
bumper for a show this weekend. After the
show, the bumper is coming off and the
lamps are going back on.</span></p>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span
style=""> Â </span></p>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span
style="">Bruce Steele</span></p>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span
style="">Brea, CA</span></p>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span
style="">1960 BN7</span></p>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><span
style=""> Â </span></p>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;"> Healeys [<a
rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
target="_blank"
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Salter<br
clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 11, 2019 1:39
PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Michael MacLean <<a
rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";
target="_blank"
href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>><br
clear="none">
<b>Cc:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
target="_blank"
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br
clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Mind if I
Rant?</span></p>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal"> Â </p>
<div>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal">Mike you
are pretty well "on the money" there.</p>
<div>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal">I have
encountered endless problems with repop
parts. I fail to understand why
manufacturers have so much difficulty
getting things right. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal">My
suspicion is that we are all partly to
blame for accepting the junk and trying
to make it work.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal">I will
go to untold lengths to purchase a good
used part any time as so doing
invariably saves me hours and hours of
frustration...</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal"> Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal">I feel
your pain.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal"> Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal">M</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal"> Â </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal">On Thu,
Jul 11, 2019, 4:19 PM Mike MacLean, <<a
rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";
target="_blank"
href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal">I am
beginning to understand what a
restorer friend of mine once told me.Â
He said he could restore three BJ8
cars in the time it took to do a 100.Â
Virtually no parts I have bought from
the usual suspects for my BN2 are easy
to install. Nothing fits like it was
made for the car. This morning I made
an attempt to bolt up the two bump
stop boxes over the rear axle. None
of the holes in the part lined up with
the holes in the body above the rear
axle. I will have to auger out at
least three of the holes in the bump
stop box to get all four bolts in.Â
This car is fighting me every step of
the way. I guess it's like my
restorer friend who has since passed
told me when he sold me that rolling
frame with a few body panels on it,
"Go ahead buy the car, it will give
you a reason to live". I am beginning
to understand what he meant. Half the
time I am pulling my hair out and
inventing new curse words, but I go
out to that garage everyday and try to
accomplish something on the car, even
if I end up beating my head against
the wall, I keep coming back. Rant
over.</p>
<div>
<p class="yiv0907245582MsoNormal">Mike
MacLean</p>
</div>
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