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On the other hand I can't afford a Mercedes Benz restoration.=C2=A0 Don't =
get me wrong, it is just great that Mercedes has a "classic" parts counter,=
but you pay the same high prices for classic parts as=C2=A0 parts for a ne=
w Mercedes.=C2=A0 So, I'll just bumble along making the poor fitting repop =
parts fit and work properly.=C2=A0 After all, they are not THAT bad, but le=
t's not speak of the rubber stuff.Mike MacLean
On Sunday, July 14, 2019, 12:09:00 PM PDT, i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>=
wrote: =20
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Well said Gary.If I buy cheap, I expect issues, but some times I have more=
time than money.That said, Moss will ship parts it knows are not right or =
poor quality and that is a bigger issue.I bought an aluminum valve cover th=
rough a local vender who pays for shipping. When it arrived it had gouges f=
rom the polishing process. He sent it back. When he asked to check the inve=
ntory before sending a replacement, he was told that all of them looked the=
same and did he want them to ship another one for me?That is a bigger conc=
ern.
Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 11:38 AM editorgary--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.tea=
m.net> wrote:
Frankly, I don't and never have accepted the lame excuse from Moss Motors =
(in whatever ownership/management incarnation) that they have to provide il=
l-fitting, unsuitable poor-wearing and out-of-spec parts because a continge=
nt of our hobby "won't pay the higher price for quality parts."
In my view, the near-monopoly supplier of parts for our hobby should be pro=
viding replacements that in fit, material and quality match the original pa=
rts and that is the only level of quality that they will sell. When they se=
ll poor parts just because the supplier makes them for less and charges les=
s, then they undermine the respectability of the original marque around whi=
ch the hobby was built and leave people believing that Healeys -- and by ex=
tension all "old English cars" were of poor quality and reliability when th=
ey were originally built.=20
Provide good quality that produces good performance and it will be reflecte=
d in the prices of the cars on the market. There is a reason why Mercedes-B=
enz models that once cost the same as our cars of the same vintage are now =
worth more on the market than our cars. It's because the primary supplier o=
f replacement parts for Mercedes-Benzes is Daimler AG and they will only se=
ll parts that are of equivalent quality to the originals. For those hobbyis=
ts who find those prices unacceptable, they can substitute sweat equity in =
hunting for parts off unrestorable examples.=20
Just one person's opinion, mind you, but I have first-hand experience in re=
storing, driving and buying/selling both brands.
BestGary Anderson
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As far as repops go, I asked a Moss rep one time why a lot of=
the reproduction parts and the rubber was so bad and did not fit well.=C2=
=A0 He told me that he could sell better parts for our cars but very few pe=
ople will buy them.=C2=A0 If he lists both a premium part and a cheaper ver=
sion, almost 95% will buy the cheap part. It would be foolish to inventory =
such slow moving parts, so they sell what the majority will buy.=C2=A0 Ever=
yone wants the parts to be cheap.=C2=A0 S
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 So, I guess you get what you pay for.
Mike MacLean
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ford a Mercedes Benz restoration. Don't get me wrong, it is just grea=
t that Mercedes has a "classic" parts counter, but you pay the same high pr=
ices for classic parts as parts for a new Mercedes. So, I'll ju=
st bumble along making the poor fitting repop parts fit and work properly.&=
nbsp; After all, they are not THAT bad, but let's not speak of the rubber s=
tuff.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mike MacLean<br></div><di=
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On Sunday, July 14, 2019, 12:09:00 PM PDT, i erbs <e=
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<div><div id=3D"yiv9067028956"><div><div>Well said Gary.<di=
v>If I buy cheap, I expect issues, but some times I have more time than mon=
ey.</div><div>That said, Moss will ship parts it knows are not right or poo=
r quality and that is a bigger issue.</div><div>I bought an aluminum valve =
cover through a local vender who pays for shipping. When it arrived it had =
gouges from the polishing process. He sent it back. When he asked to check =
the inventory before sending a replacement, he was told that all of them lo=
oked the same and did he want them to ship another one for me?</div><div>Th=
at is a bigger concern.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div>Ira Erbs<=
br clear=3D"none">Portland, OR<br clear=3D"none">typos and artifacts are th=
e fault of my phone</div></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv90=
67028956gmail_quote"><div class=3D"yiv9067028956yqt0903457461" id=3D"yiv906=
7028956yqt12330"><div class=3D"yiv9067028956gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sun,=
Jul 14, 2019, 11:38 AM editorgary--- via Healeys <<a rel=3D"nofollow" s=
hape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" h=
ref=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:=
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le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div> <font size=3D"2">Frankly, I don't and never have accepted the lame ex=
cuse from Moss Motors (in whatever ownership/management incarnation) that t=
hey have to provide ill-fitting, unsuitable poor-wearing and out-of-spec pa=
rts because a contingent of our hobby "won't pay the higher price for quali=
ty parts."</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2"><br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">In my view, the near-monopoly supplier of parts for o=
ur hobby should be providing replacements that in fit, material and quality=
match the original parts and that is the only level of quality that they w=
ill sell. When they sell poor parts just because the supplier makes them fo=
r less and charges less, then they undermine the respectability of the orig=
inal marque around which the hobby was built and leave people believing tha=
t Healeys -- and by extension all "old English cars" were of poor quality a=
nd reliability when they were originally built. <br clear=3D"none">
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</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Provide good quality that produces good performance a=
nd it will be reflected in the prices of the cars on the market. There is a=
reason why Mercedes-Benz models that once cost the same as our cars of the=
same vintage are now worth more on the market than our cars. It's because =
the primary supplier of replacement parts for Mercedes-Benzes is Daimler AG=
and they will only sell parts that are of equivalent quality to the origin=
als. For those hobbyists who find those prices unacceptable, they can subst=
itute sweat equity in hunting for parts off unrestorable examples. <br clea=
r=3D"none">
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2"><br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Just one person's opinion, mind you, but I have first=
-hand experience in restoring, driving and buying/selling both brands.</fon=
t></div>
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</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Best</font></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"> As far as repops go, I asked a Moss rep one=
time why a lot of the reproduction parts and the rubber was so bad and did=
not fit well. He told me that he could sell better parts for our car=
s but very few people will buy them. If he lists both a premium part =
and a cheaper version, almost 95% will buy the cheap part. It would be fool=
ish to inventory such slow moving parts, so they sell what the majority wil=
l buy. Everyone wants the parts to be cheap. S<br clear=3D"none=
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