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Replacing the hydraulic system on the 65 Sprite and found 7/8th cyl on back
brakes. 3/4 is required for disk brake cars. Have replaced with 3/4" units.
Did not drive before, so no i fo on how changing will influence stopping,
but it should now be correct. Plus front disc where cut thin from spec. So
new turned drums and discs and calipers should improve everything. I need
to pull the fuel pump and see if it just needs adjusting. Nearly 100
degrees yesterdy and today, so not working on the car. Long weekend ahead.
Hoping to gave it ready for the car sale area at next weekend's abfm
Portland.
Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 1:07 PM Henry A. Morrison <dos_gusanos@msn.com> wrote:
> If you increase the diameter of your rear cylinders, you increase the
> amount of fluid required to move the shoes the same distance, so your
> master cylinder must travel further, more pedal travel, and would probably
> make the problem worse. Increase the size of your master cylinder and
> reduce pedal travel and probably the pressure in the system given the same
> pedal force application. I like minimal pedal travel, and like feeling
> like pressing against the wall to get the vehicle to stop.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Henry Morrison
>
> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Chris
> Dimmock <austin.healey@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2019 5:23 AM
> *To:* Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Rear wheel cylinders on a BJ8
>
> Seriously,
> So all you men who have fitted rear disc brakes to your Healey, have only
> ever done this in order to "reduce" your rear braking effort?
> To make your rear brakes "less efficient" than they already are?
> And you've fitted Discs to "increase" your unsprung weight, and upset the
> balance of your car?
> Seriously?
> Sincerely, this group used to share ideas.
> Now, instead of people saying "nah, tried that, but I locked rear wheels"
> it's a bunch of hypothetical Wikipedia answers.
> So I will ask again.
> Has anyone else changed their rear wheel cylinders on a 3000 from 3/4 inch
> to 7/8 inch?
> If yes - I'd love to hear your feedback.
> If you've fitted disk brakes on your Jensen Healey, or what ever - I'm not
> interested in your comments. Im not interested in the theory - I'm
> interested in the practice and real results from on the road.
> Too much bullshit internet "searching" is infiltrating this list. I've
> always only answered when I've actually done something.
> Armchair experts who google answers and Have now experience in the
> question I've asked need to pull their head in - that's you Kees.
>
> Has anyone else ever changed their rear wheel cylinders from 3/4 inch to
> 7/8 inch?
>
> If you have? I'd love to hear from you.
> If you haven't, well, I don't really care!
> Yes. I'm pissed off.
> People who have the answer - from experience- don't answer when 4 others
> respond.
> I'm just pissed off
> A lot going on.
> Chris
>
> On 28 Aug 2019, at 2:29 am, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Have to agree with Kees on this one.
> We have a brake bias control on AHX12 and I can certainly attest to the
> fact that when the conditions change to "wet" removing a lot of rear
> braking is absolutely essential to prevent the car from swapping ends.
> As most road cars don't have adjustable brake bias I would be very careful
> in trying to increase the rear braking.
> When braking into a corner the last thing you want is the rear end coming
> around, particularly in the wet.
>
> M
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:09 PM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
> wrote:
>
> Whatch out driving in the rain as the rear brakes will lock the rear
> wheels much quicker than with the smaller pistons.Rear brakes are only
> providing a small portion of the total brake force.
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
> Op 27-8-2019 om 18:04 schreef Chris Dimmock:
> > Hi Men
> >
> > I just did. Sick of the rear brakes doing nothing. Freeloaders!!
> > Yes, no problem with seized wheel cylinders, no problem with the
> flexible hose - just bugger all wear on the rear linings.
> > I'll let you know how it goes on my BJ8
> > Best
> > Chris
> >
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<div dir=3D"auto">Replacing the hydraulic system on the 65 Sprite and found=
7/8th cyl on back brakes. 3/4 is required for disk brake cars. Have replac=
ed with 3/4" units. Did not drive before, so no i fo on how changing w=
ill influence stopping, but it should now be correct. Plus front disc where=
cut thin from spec. So new turned drums and discs and calipers should impr=
ove everything. I need to pull the fuel pump and see if it just needs adjus=
ting. Nearly 100 degrees yesterdy and today, so not working on the car. Lon=
g weekend ahead. Hoping to gave it ready for the car sale area at next week=
end's abfm Portland.=C2=A0<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signatur=
e">Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br>typos and artifacts are the fault of my phon=
e</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 1:07 PM Henry A. Morrison <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:dos_gusanos@msn.com">dos_gusanos@msn.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:12pt">
If you increase the diameter of your rear cylinders, you increase the amoun=
t of fluid required to move the shoes the same distance, so your master cyl=
inder must travel further, more pedal travel, and would probably make the p=
roblem worse.=C2=A0 Increase the size
of your master cylinder and reduce pedal travel and probably the pressure =
in the system given the same pedal force application.=C2=A0 I like minimal =
pedal travel, and like feeling like pressing against the wall to get the ve=
hicle to stop.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:12pt">
Sincerely</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:12pt">
Henry Morrison</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:12pt">
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#000000" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b>=
Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf o=
f Chris Dimmock <<a href=3D"mailto:austin.healey@gmail.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noreferrer">austin.healey@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 28, 2019 5:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Salter <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</=
a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Rear wheel cylinders on a BJ8</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">
<div>Seriously,=C2=A0</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">So all you men who h=
ave fitted rear disc brakes to your Healey, have only ever done this in ord=
er to "reduce" your rear braking effort?</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">To make your rear br=
akes "less efficient" than they already are?</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">And you've fitte=
d Discs to "increase" your unsprung weight, and upset the balance=
of your car?</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">Seriously?</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">Sincerely, this grou=
p used to share ideas.=C2=A0</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">Now, instead of peop=
le saying "nah, tried that, but I locked rear wheels" it's a =
bunch of hypothetical Wikipedia answers.=C2=A0</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">So I will ask again.=
=C2=A0</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">Has anyone else chan=
ged their rear wheel cylinders on a 3000 from 3/4 inch to 7/8 inch?</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">If yes - I'd lov=
e to hear your feedback.=C2=A0</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">If you've fitted=
disk brakes on your Jensen Healey, or what ever - I'm not interested i=
n your comments. Im not interested in the theory - I'm interested in th=
e practice and real results from on the road.=C2=A0</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">Too much bullshit in=
ternet "searching" is infiltrating this list. I've always onl=
y answered when I've actually done something.=C2=A0</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">Armchair experts who=
google answers and Have now experience in the question I've asked need=
to pull their head in - that's you Kees.=C2=A0</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div class=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_gmail_quote">
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px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<font color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)=
">Has anyone else ever changed their rear wheel cylinders from 3/4 inch to =
7/8 inch?</span></font></blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
If you have? I'd love to hear from you.=C2=A0</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">If you haven't, =
well, I don't really care!</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">Yes. I'm pissed =
off.=C2=A0</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">People who have the =
answer - from experience- don't answer when 4 others respond.=C2=A0<br>
I'm just pissed off=C2=A0</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">A lot going on.=C2=
=A0</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_AppleMailSignature">Chris</div>
<div><br>
On 28 Aug 2019, at 2:29 am, Michael Salter <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsal=
ter@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">michaelsalter@gmail.com=
</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
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<div class=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:c=
omic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">
Have to agree with Kees on this one. <br>
</div>
<div class=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:c=
omic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">
We have a brake bias control on AHX12 and I can certainly attest to the fac=
t that when the conditions change to "wet" removing a lot of rear=
braking is absolutely essential to prevent the car from swapping ends.
<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:c=
omic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">
As most road cars don't have adjustable brake bias I would be very care=
ful in trying to increase the rear braking.</div>
<div class=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:c=
omic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">
When braking into a corner the last thing you want is the rear end coming a=
round, particularly in the wet.</div>
<div class=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:c=
omic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">
<br>
</div>
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omic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">
M<br>
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<div class=3D"m_-4966854620874427984x_gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Aug 2=
7, 2019 at 12:09 PM Kees Oudesluijs <<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chell=
o.nl" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>> wr=
ote:<br>
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px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Whatch out driving in the rain as the rear brakes will lock the rear <br>
wheels much quicker than with the smaller pistons.Rear brakes are only <br>
providing a small portion of the total brake force.<br>
<br>
Kees Oudesluijs<br>
<br>
Op 27-8-2019 om 18:04 schreef Chris Dimmock:<br>
> Hi Men<br>
>=C2=A0<br>
> I just did. Sick of the rear brakes doing nothing. Freeloaders!!<br>
> Yes, no problem with seized wheel cylinders, no problem with the flexi=
ble hose - just bugger all wear on the rear linings.<br>
> I'll let you know how it goes on my BJ8<br>
> Best<br>
> Chris<br>
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