My grandfather was an engineer on the Wabash Railroad. The last run he had that
I was aware of before he retired was between Kansas City, MO and St. Louis, MO.
Got to ride his train just before he retired. Don't ask me the year I'm not
sure, maybe 1962 or so. A great experience and life long memory.
Larry Wendland
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
To: Mirek Sharp <m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca>; Michael Oritt
<michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2020 1:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires
I was a railroad engineer until I retired 3 years ago. I got to play with the
big toys.
Mike MacLean
On Monday, January 6, 2020, 7:11:53 AM PST, Michael Oritt
<michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote:
I am not an engineer but I did play one when I was a kid with a Lionel train
set.
Best--Michael Oritt
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 12:02 AM Mirek Sharp <m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Thanks Michael,
Â
I have wondered about the metallurgy around chroming wheels, but have never
heard it from an engineer. I have heard that opinion about the gold plated
wheels on the Earls Court show car, but again, I think it was more speculation
than informed opinion from an engineer. Itâ??s a moot point for me as I
prefer the painted wheels.
Â
Cheers, Mirek
Â
From: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com]
Sent: January-05-20 4:53 PM
To: Mirek Sharp
Cc: Max Byers; Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires
Â
Mirek--
Â
In response to your question as to whether anyone has experienced total wheel
failure, many years ago I had a 1960 BN7 that came with chrome wire wheels, and
though I don't remember whether the wheels had 48 or 60 spokes I do know that
on several occasions I experienced broken spokes. Things never got to the
point of total wheel failure because invariably the broken spoke would poke a
hole in the inner tube and when I had to replace the tube I also replaced the
spoke.
Â
As opposed to today's stainless steel spokes back then I believe that chromed
wire wheels had plated spokes and the chroming process embrittled the spokes,
increasing their vulnerability to breaking. FWIW I have never broken a spoke
on the 20 year old 60 spoke chromed Daytons I have had on my present car.
Â
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 10:05 AM Mirek Sharp <m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I have wondered how many people drive with broken spokes and do not even
realize it. I have only had experience with a few broken spokes, one on my
Healey and one on my TC (both rear wheels), and both were broken right where
the spoke enters the hub, and were not easily noticed. One really has to use
the time-honoured method of tapping the spokes with a spanner or screwdriver to
listen to the ring, or notice them during a tyre change. It is quite possible
the many healeys, especially those owned/driven by less mechanically-minded
souls, are driving around with a broken spoke or two. I'm no engineer, but I
would not be surprised if this has little effect on the overall safety of the
wheel for normal driving. Does anyone know of a complete wheel failure from
normal driving? I have seen only one. When still an apprentice, an E-Type
was towed into the shop and one rear wheel had most of its spokes sheared off
at the hub (a 72 spoke chrome Dunlop). No idea how it happened. Cheers,Â
Mirek
-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Max Byers
Sent: January-04-20 12:29 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires
"A few broken spokes in 106,000 miles is pretty good, I think. How many
people besides you and me put that kind of mileage on their Healey now, Bob?Â
And some of those broken spokes were in the days before Allen Hendrix was
truing and balancing my wheels.
-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 11:50 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires
Hmmmmm. To me 'a few broken spokes' and 'more than adequate' is a
contradiction in terms.
On 1/4/2020 7:54 AM, Max Byers wrote:
> Bruce, here is my input:
>
> I do not know anything about Dunlop/Moss wheels. I bought five 60-spoke
> 15x4.5 Dayton chrome wheels with stainless spokes from British Wire Wheel in
> 1991, and they are still on my BJ8 with 106,000 miles on them now. I've had
> a few broken spokes over the years, but fortunately I am relatively close to
> Allen Hendrix. He keeps them trued and balanced whenever I need replacement
> spokes or new tires.
>Â Â
> It is only my personal opinion and preference, but while 72 spoke wheels are
> stronger, they are also have a "busier" appearance. My experience with the
> 60-spokers tells me that they are more than adequate.
>
> I have always used 165 x 15 tires, again personal preference. As to which
> brand, I use whichever tire is available to Hendrix Wire Wheel. At one
> point it was Kumhos, and I really liked those tires. They were not
> available at my last tire change, so I currently have Nexens. So far, with
> 5 years and 10,000 miles on them they are also proving to be a very good tire.
>
> Steve Byers
> HBJ8L/36666
> BJ8 Registry
> AHCA Delegate at Large
> Havelock, NCÂ USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Peters
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 12:26 AM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires
>
> Hi all,
> Iâ??m getting closer to having to buy wheels and tires for my â??67 BJ8. When
> I say closer I mean a year or so but I like to plan ahead. My car will not be
> concours correct or be entered in any car judging at shows. Itâ??ll be a
> driver that wonâ??t see any track time of any sort. That being said Iâ??m
> wondering what everyoneâ??s thoughts are on wheels and tires. I plan to put
> chrome wire wheels on. I donâ??t want Miniliteâ??s. So, here are my questions:
>
> 1. Dunlop style(e.g. Moss) versus Dayton(e.g. Hendrix)?
> 2. Wheel sizeâ??15x4.5 60 spoke; 15x5 72 spoke; or 15x5.5 72 spoke?
> 3. Tire Brand?
> 4. Tire Size?
>
> Iâ??m not a bargain basement shopper so Iâ??m willing to pay for the best
> combinations that make sense. I realize thereâ??s a lot of personal
> preference so I hope Iâ??m not gonna start a war with these questions!
>
> Thanks everyone!
> Bruce
>
>
>
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