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The=C2=A0 ALLOY=C2=A0 Radiators from Wizard Cooling will=C2=A0 solve your =
cooling problems. my 100 temp dropped to around=C2=A0 90 in=C2=A0 summer.So=
=C2=A0 Florida Sun should be no problem !!
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Today's Topics:
=C2=A0 1. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 theexisting radiator (Bob Spidell)
=C2=A0 2. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 theexisting radiator (warthodson@aol.com)
=C2=A0 3. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 theexisting radiator (Bob Spidell)
=C2=A0 4. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 theexisting radiator (Robert Begani)
=C2=A0 5. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 theexisting radiator (Michael Oritt)
=C2=A0 6. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 theexisting radiator (Roger Grace)
=C2=A0 7. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 theexisting radiator (Chris Dimmock)
=C2=A0 8. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 totheexisting radiator (Perry)
=C2=A0 9. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 totheexisting radiator (Perry)
=C2=A0 10. [OT] Toyota is recalling nearly 700, 000 vehicles because of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 issues with the fuel pumps - CNN (Bob Spidell)
=C2=A0 11. Re: [OT] Toyota is recalling nearly 700, 000 vehicles because
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 of issues with the fuel pumps - CNN (WILLIAM B LAWRENC=
E)
I have a BJ8 with:
=20
- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
- Texas Cooler fan
- recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K miles--hot-tanked, properly tune=
d, etc.--and Robertshaw sleeved 180degF thermostat
- Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold
=20
... and a BN2/100M with:
=20
- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
- OEM art deco fan
- rebuilt engine with a couple thousand miles at most--still working on 'p=
erfect' mixture--and garden-variety Stant 180degF thermostat
- manifold with high-temp 'authentic color' paint only
=20
Both behave identically, i.e. will run 'cool'--160degF or less--on cool da=
ys, 180degF on 'typical' days (72degF), and both will get hot (over 200) si=
tting in traffic on typical or hotter days or pulling up a long grade.
=20
FWIW
=20
Bob
=20
=20
=20
On 1/14/2020 9:58 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
=20
"Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this problem=
, who knows?"=20
Bob that has perplexed=C2=A0me for decades but certainly seems to be real=
ity. Good luck with your modifications=C2=A0 ... I=C2=A0 have always found =
that additional tubes in the radiator make a huge difference.=C2=A0=20
M =20
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 12:27 PM Robert Begani, <rfbegani@gmail.com> wrote:
=20
=20
I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool winter day is=
today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a high =
of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph.=C2=A0 Great for a day sail on the Ha=
rbor which I will do in the next hour.=C2=A0 However, it does make driving =
a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator t=
o handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature does =
not go down only up.=C2=A0 So the next step is to re-core the radiator.=C2=
=A0 The local radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new =
core using the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity=
.=C2=A0 This is a SKI purchase.=C2=A0 Spend the Kids Inheritance.=C2=A0 The=
n I will think about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vap=
or lock.
=20
=C2=A0
=20
What do you think about Push and Pull?=C2=A0 Take off the engine fan?
=20
=C2=A0
=20
By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bathed, everythi=
ng in the engine during his machining of the engine to bring it up to speci=
fications.=C2=A0 He knows what to do.=C2=A0 The only modification is the 20=
over pistons.=C2=A0=20
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this problem, =
who knows?
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Bob=20
=20
=C2=A0
=20
From: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
To: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to th=
eexisting radiator
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Bob
=20
With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow the car shoul=
d be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There is som=
ething else amiss in the equation.=20
=20
Perry
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
=20
=C2=A0
=20
From: Robert Begani
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
To: 'Perry'
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to th=
eexisting radiator
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Hi Perry:
=20
=C2=A0
=20
I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss wi=
th the largest diameter to fit the radiator.=C2=A0 As a pusher it really pu=
shes air through the engine compartment at low speeds and standing still. I=
still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine.=C2=A0 As I was sea=
rching overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not recommende=
d as they act against each other.
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Bob
=20
=20
=20
=20
If you have a 180 degree T,stat & your engine is running 160 degrees on a =
cool day your T'stat must be broken!
Gary Hodson
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator
I have a BJ8 with:
=20
- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
- Texas Cooler fan
- recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K miles--hot-tanked, properly tune=
d, etc.--and Robertshaw sleeved 180degF thermostat
- Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold
=20
... and a BN2/100M with:
=20
- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
- OEM art deco fan
- rebuilt engine with a couple thousand miles at most--still working on 'p=
erfect' mixture--and garden-variety Stant 180degF thermostat
- manifold with high-temp 'authentic color' paint only
=20
Both behave identically, i.e. will run 'cool'--160degF or less--on cool da=
ys, 180degF on 'typical' days (72degF), and both will get hot (over 200) si=
tting in traffic on typical or hotter days or pulling up a long grade.
=20
FWIW
=20
Bob
=20
=20
=20
=20
Nope.=C2=A0 Have confirmed thermostat's function, tried several and other=
s report their cars do the same.=C2=A0 No one knows why.
=20
On 1/14/2020 1:28 PM, warthodson@aol.com wrote:
=20
If you have a 180 degree T,stat & your engine is running 160 degrees on a =
cool day your T'stat must be broken!=20
Gary Hodson
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to th=
eexisting radiator
=20
I have a BJ8 with:
=20
- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
- Texas Cooler fan
- recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K miles--hot-tanked, properly tune=
d, etc.--and Robertshaw sleeved 180degF thermostat
- Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold
=20
... and a BN2/100M with:
=20
- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
- OEM art deco fan
- rebuilt engine with a couple thousand miles at most--still working on 'p=
erfect' mixture--and garden-variety Stant 180degF thermostat
- manifold with high-temp 'authentic color' paint only
=20
Both behave identically, i.e. will run 'cool'--160degF or less--on cool da=
ys, 180degF on 'typical' days (72degF), and both will get hot (over 200) si=
tting in traffic on typical or hotter days or pulling up a long grade.
=20
FWIW
=20
Bob
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
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Thanks Bob, I am working my way through the program.=C2=A0 The engine was j=
ust rebuilt with only 100 miles on it by a well know machine shop and boile=
d cleaned etc. can only hope they did the right job.
=C2=A0
Have a original Texas cooler and the Shovel to direct the air through to th=
e radiator which had a high cfm pusher fan.=C2=A0 I have installed the tunn=
el which is wrapped in aluminum and some rubber insulation inside and out. =
It weighs a ton and does not get hot.=C2=A0 However, the gear shifter porth=
ole does not have the rubber seal so the air coming out of it is tremendous=
at 2000-3000 rpm, so the shovel really works.=C2=A0 But, still the tempera=
ture rises
Within 2 weeks the original radiator will be re-cored. I am hoping that thi=
s will greatly reduce the coolant temperature to the level you describe.
=C2=A0
Meanwhile, I have a good list of items to consider adjusting.=C2=A0 Will ke=
ep you all informed of the progress.
=C2=A0
Bob Begani
67 =C2=A0BJ8
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 2:41 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator
=C2=A0
I have a BJ8 with:
- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
- Texas Cooler fan
- recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K miles--hot-tanked, properly tuned=
, etc.--and Robertshaw sleeved 180degF thermostat
- Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold
... and a BN2/100M with:
- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
- OEM art deco fan
- rebuilt engine with a couple thousand miles at most--still working on 'pe=
rfect' mixture--and garden-variety Stant 180degF thermostat
- manifold with high-temp 'authentic color' paint only
Both behave identically, i.e. will run 'cool'--160degF or less--on cool day=
s, 180degF on 'typical' days (72degF), and both will get hot (over 200) sit=
ting in traffic on typical or hotter days or pulling up a long grade.
FWIW
Bob
=C2=A0
Robert--
I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust system with=
lagging as it will cause its early=C2=A0demise due to rust.=C2=A0=C2=A0I w=
as told that=C2=A018 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are stil=
l intact.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
Best--Michael Oritt
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
I am jumping in on this subject a bit late, so I do not know if Bob has a t=
hermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve for the bypass or not. Either t=
hat type of thermostat or a fixed blanking sleeve for the bypass would be e=
ssential for this climate. Or any climate for that matter.=C2=A0=C2=A0
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
To: 'Perry' <healeyguy@aol.com>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator
I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool winter day is=
today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a high =
of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph.=C2=A0 Great for a day sail on the Ha=
rbor which I will do in the next hour.=C2=A0 However, it does make driving =
a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator t=
o handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature does =
not go down only up.=C2=A0 So the next step is to re-core the radiator.=C2=
=A0 The local radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new =
core using the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity=
.=C2=A0 This is a SKI purchase.=C2=A0 Spend the Kids Inheritance.=C2=A0 The=
n I will think about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vap=
or lock. =C2=A0What do you think about Push and Pull?=C2=A0 Take off the en=
gine fan? =C2=A0By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil =
bathed, everything in the engine during his machining of the engine to brin=
g it up to specifications.=C2=A0 He knows what to do.=C2=A0 The only modifi=
cation is the 20 over pistons.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s w=
ith a stock radiator not have this problem, who knows? =C2=A0Bob =C2=A0Fro=
m: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
To: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator =C2=A0BobWith the extras that you have added to facilitat=
e the airflow the car should be running much cooler than 212, even with a s=
tock radiator. There is something else amiss in the equation. Perry =C2=A0S=
ent from Mail for Windows 10 =C2=A0From: Robert Begani
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
To: 'Perry'
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator =C2=A0Hi Perry: =C2=A0I do not remember the CFM, however,=
it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the =
radiator.=C2=A0 As a pusher it really pushes air through the engine compart=
ment at low speeds and standing still. I still have an original Texas 6 bla=
de fan on the engine.=C2=A0 As I was searching overheating problems, one re=
ference indicated that is not recommended as they act against each other. =
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ly:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;}Just a thought ...
Our cars all run hotter when idling and consequent reduced airflow.
However both fan airflow and water flow are proportional to speed.
So at 750 RPM idle compared to say 1500 RPM the air flow (engine driven fan=
) and coolant flow is reduced by a factor of 2.
So increasing just the airfow with constant speed E fans has somewhat limit=
ed effect.
It had minor improvement for me in traffic.
I then installed an electric water pump to compensate for the reduced coola=
nt flow at idling.
Works really well in conjuction with an E fan
The E pump is almost invisible in the engine compartment - you have to real=
ly look for it. It is installed in line in the bottom hose.
Both are controlled from a single switch under the dash - via a relay. BTW =
I have a natural dislike for thermostats but that would work too.=20
So whenever the engine is really up to temp (sustained run) and am approach=
ing traffic I switch them both on.
Works fine and relaible so far - but now do keep a spare bottom hose in my =
trunk.
rg
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
To: warthodson@aol.com
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:04:11 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator
Robert--
I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust system with=
lagging as it will cause its early=C2=A0demise due to rust.=C2=A0=C2=A0I w=
as told that=C2=A018 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are stil=
l intact.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
Best--Michael Oritt
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
I am jumping in on this subject a bit late, so I do not know if Bob has a t=
hermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve for the bypass or not. Either t=
hat type of thermostat or a fixed blanking sleeve for the bypass would be e=
ssential for this climate. Or any climate for that matter.=C2=A0=C2=A0
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
To: 'Perry' <healeyguy@aol.com>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator
I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool winter day is=
today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a high =
of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph.=C2=A0 Great for a day sail on the Ha=
rbor which I will do in the next hour.=C2=A0 However, it does make driving =
a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator t=
o handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature does =
not go down only up.=C2=A0 So the next step is to re-core the radiator.=C2=
=A0 The local radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new =
core using the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity=
.=C2=A0 This is a SKI purchase.=C2=A0 Spend the Kids Inheritance.=C2=A0 The=
n I will think about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vap=
or lock. =C2=A0What do you think about Push and Pull?=C2=A0 Take off the en=
gine fan? =C2=A0By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil =
bathed, everything in the engine during his machining of the engine to brin=
g it up to specifications.=C2=A0 He knows what to do.=C2=A0 The only modifi=
cation is the 20 over pistons.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s w=
ith a stock radiator not have this problem, who knows? =C2=A0Bob =C2=A0Fro=
m: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
To: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator=C2=A0BobWith the extras that you have added to facilitate=
the airflow the car should be running much cooler than 212, even with a st=
ock radiator. There is something else amiss in the equation.Perry=C2=A0Sent=
from Mail for Windows 10=C2=A0From: Robert Begani
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
To: 'Perry'
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator=C2=A0Hi Perry: =C2=A0I do not remember the CFM, however, =
it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the r=
adiator.=C2=A0 As a pusher it really pushes air through the engine compartm=
ent at low speeds and standing still. I still have an original Texas 6 blad=
e fan on the engine.=C2=A0 As I was searching overheating problems, one ref=
erence indicated that is not recommended as they act against each other. =
=C2=A0Bob=C2=A0
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Same.=C2=A0Wrapped my steel headers in 1995.=C2=A0No issues to date with th=
em.=C2=A0Replaced mufflers twice, but that's a road abrasion issue due to m=
y lack of ground clearance...BestChris
On 15 Jan 2020, at 10:04 am, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote:
Robert--
I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust system with=
lagging as it will cause its early=C2=A0demise due to rust.=C2=A0=C2=A0I w=
as told that=C2=A018 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are stil=
l intact.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
Best--Michael Oritt
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
I am jumping in on this subject a bit late, so I do not know if Bob has a t=
hermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve for the bypass or not. Either t=
hat type of thermostat or a fixed blanking sleeve for the bypass would be e=
ssential for this climate. Or any climate for that matter.=C2=A0=C2=A0
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
To: 'Perry' <healeyguy@aol.com>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator
I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool winter day is=
today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a high =
of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph.=C2=A0 Great for a day sail on the Ha=
rbor which I will do in the next hour.=C2=A0 However, it does make driving =
a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator t=
o handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature does =
not go down only up.=C2=A0 So the next step is to re-core the radiator.=C2=
=A0 The local radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new =
core using the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity=
.=C2=A0 This is a SKI purchase.=C2=A0 Spend the Kids Inheritance.=C2=A0 The=
n I will think about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vap=
or lock. =C2=A0What do you think about Push and Pull?=C2=A0 Take off the en=
gine fan? =C2=A0By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil =
bathed, everything in the engine during his machining of the engine to brin=
g it up to specifications.=C2=A0 He knows what to do.=C2=A0 The only modifi=
cation is the 20 over pistons.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s w=
ith a stock radiator not have this problem, who knows? =C2=A0Bob =C2=A0Fro=
m: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
To: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator =C2=A0BobWith the extras that you have added to facilitat=
e the airflow the car should be running much cooler than 212, even with a s=
tock radiator. There is something else amiss in the equation. Perry =C2=A0S=
ent from Mail for Windows 10 =C2=A0From: Robert Begani
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
To: 'Perry'
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator =C2=A0Hi Perry: =C2=A0I do not remember the CFM, however,=
it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the =
radiator.=C2=A0 As a pusher it really pushes air through the engine compart=
ment at low speeds and standing still. I still have an original Texas 6 bla=
de fan on the engine.=C2=A0 As I was searching overheating problems, one re=
ference indicated that is not recommended as they act against each other. =
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Roger
The constant flow of water (coolant, regardless of engine RPM, to maximize =
the cooling ability, is an interesting thought.=C2=A0 My thermodynamics cla=
sses were long ago and =C2=A0I really wasn=E2=80=99t paying attention. Okay=
maybe a little but not much.=20
I sent the info below to Bob earlier and did not copy the list.=C2=A0 Its a=
bout a issue (bold stuff below) that I have found several times when cleani=
ng a six cylinder block during a rebuild.
Perry
=C2=A0
=E2=80=9CBob
With 37 years living in Hawaii I understand the impact of tropical weather.=
I used to dread when asked to participate in a parade with the stock 100. =
With no fan shroud the 4 blade stock fan only moved about 1000 CFM and that=
was not at idle. The car at even 30MPH has plenty of air flow through the =
rad. A pusher fan actually has the possibility of blocking air flow at spee=
d.=C2=A0 Ignition timing has an impact on the running temp but is not the g=
ame changer. Carb mixture settings (to lean) will push the temps up. That s=
aid the six cylinder cars seem to have less overheating issues then the 100=
=E2=80=99s.=20
On at least 6 3000 engines I have found extreme buildup of debris inside th=
e water passages at the lower areas adjacent to the cylinders. Less on cyli=
nders 1 and 6. Block paint was discolored on a couple of them in that area.=
Boiling the block did not remove the crud.=C2=A0 I used a piece of speedo =
cable in a drill motor to brake up the corrosion and air and vacuum to get =
it out of the blocks. Of course it required a stripped block with freeze pl=
ugs removed.=20
Ok Bob, while I=E2=80=99m putting this email together =C2=A0I see that a bu=
nch of folks jumped in. Looks like similar thoughts.=20
P
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
=C2=A0
From: Roger Grace
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 6:53 PM
To: Michael Oritt
Cc: Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes tothee=
xisting radiator
=C2=A0
Just a thought ...
Our cars all run hotter when idling and consequent reduced airflow.
However both fan airflow and water flow are proportional to speed.
So at 750 RPM idle compared to say 1500 RPM the air flow (engine driven fan=
) and coolant flow is reduced by a factor of 2.
So increasing just the airfow with constant speed E fans has somewhat limit=
ed effect.
It had minor improvement for me in traffic.
I then installed an electric water pump to compensate for the reduced coola=
nt flow at idling.
Works really well in conjuction with an E fan
The E pump is almost invisible in the engine compartment - you have to real=
ly look for it. It is installed in line in the bottom hose.
Both are controlled from a single switch under the dash - via a relay. BTW =
I have a natural dislike for thermostats but that would work too.=20
So whenever the engine is really up to temp (sustained run) and am approach=
ing traffic I switch them both on.
Works fine and relaible so far - but now do keep a spare bottom hose in my =
trunk.
rg
=C2=A0
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
To: warthodson@aol.com
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:04:11 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator
=C2=A0
Robert--
=C2=A0
I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust system with=
lagging as it will cause its early=C2=A0demise due to rust.=C2=A0=C2=A0
I was told that=C2=A018 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are s=
till intact.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Best--Michael Oritt
=C2=A0
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
I am jumping in on this subject a bit late, so I do not know if Bob has a t=
hermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve for the bypass or not. Either t=
hat type of thermostat or a fixed blanking sleeve for the bypass would be e=
ssential for this climate. Or any climate for that matter.=C2=A0=C2=A0
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
To: 'Perry' <healeyguy@aol.com>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator
I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool winter day is=
today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a high =
of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph.=C2=A0 Great for a day sail on the Ha=
rbor which I will do in the next hour.=C2=A0 However, it does make driving =
a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator t=
o handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature does =
not go down only up.=C2=A0 So the next step is to re-core the radiator.=C2=
=A0 The local radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new =
core using the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity=
.=C2=A0 This is a SKI purchase.=C2=A0 Spend the Kids Inheritance.=C2=A0 The=
n I will think about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vap=
or lock.
=C2=A0
What do you think about Push and Pull?=C2=A0 Take off the engine fan?
=C2=A0
By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bathed, everythi=
ng in the engine during his machining of the engine to bring it up to speci=
fications.=C2=A0 He knows what to do.=C2=A0 The only modification is the 20=
over pistons.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0
Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this problem, =
who knows?
=C2=A0
Bob=20
=C2=A0
From: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
To: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator
=C2=A0
Bob
With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow the car shoul=
d be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There is som=
ething else amiss in the equation.
Perry
=C2=A0
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
=C2=A0
From: Robert Begani
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
To: 'Perry'
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator
=C2=A0
Hi Perry:
=C2=A0
I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss wi=
th the largest diameter to fit the radiator.=C2=A0 As a pusher it really pu=
shes air through the engine compartment at low speeds and standing still. I=
still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine.=C2=A0 As I was sea=
rching overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not recommende=
d as they act against each other.
=C2=A0
Bob
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive
=C2=A0
Healeys@autox.team.net
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Roger
The constant flow of water (coolant, regardless of engine RPM, to maximize =
the cooling ability, is an interesting thought.=C2=A0 My thermodynamics cla=
sses were long ago and =C2=A0I really wasn=E2=80=99t paying attention. Okay=
maybe a little but not much.=20
I sent the info below to Bob earlier and did not copy the list.=C2=A0 Its a=
bout a issue (bold stuff below) that I have found several times when cleani=
ng a six cylinder block during a rebuild.
Perry
=C2=A0
=E2=80=9CBob
With 37 years living in Hawaii I understand the impact of tropical weather.=
I used to dread when asked to participate in a parade with the stock 100. =
With no fan shroud the 4 blade stock fan only moved about 1000 CFM and that=
was not at idle. The car at even 30MPH has plenty of air flow through the =
rad. A pusher fan actually has the possibility of blocking air flow at spee=
d.=C2=A0 Ignition timing has an impact on the running temp but is not the g=
ame changer. Carb mixture settings (to lean) will push the temps up. That s=
aid the six cylinder cars seem to have less overheating issues then the 100=
=E2=80=99s.=20
On at least 6 3000 engines I have found extreme buildup of debris inside th=
e water passages at the lower areas adjacent to the cylinders. Less on cyli=
nders 1 and 6. Block paint was discolored on a couple of them in that area.=
Boiling the block did not remove the crud.=C2=A0 I used a piece of speedo =
cable in a drill motor to brake up the corrosion and air and vacuum to get =
it out of the blocks. Of course it required a stripped block with freeze pl=
ugs removed.=20
Ok Bob, while I=E2=80=99m putting this email together =C2=A0I see that a bu=
nch of folks jumped in. Looks like similar thoughts.=20
P
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
=C2=A0
From: Roger Grace
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 6:53 PM
To: Michael Oritt
Cc: Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes tothee=
xisting radiator
=C2=A0
Just a thought ...
Our cars all run hotter when idling and consequent reduced airflow.
However both fan airflow and water flow are proportional to speed.
So at 750 RPM idle compared to say 1500 RPM the air flow (engine driven fan=
) and coolant flow is reduced by a factor of 2.
So increasing just the airfow with constant speed E fans has somewhat limit=
ed effect.
It had minor improvement for me in traffic.
I then installed an electric water pump to compensate for the reduced coola=
nt flow at idling.
Works really well in conjuction with an E fan
The E pump is almost invisible in the engine compartment - you have to real=
ly look for it. It is installed in line in the bottom hose.
Both are controlled from a single switch under the dash - via a relay. BTW =
I have a natural dislike for thermostats but that would work too.=20
So whenever the engine is really up to temp (sustained run) and am approach=
ing traffic I switch them both on.
Works fine and relaible so far - but now do keep a spare bottom hose in my =
trunk.
rg
=C2=A0
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
To: warthodson@aol.com
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:04:11 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator
=C2=A0
Robert--
=C2=A0
I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust system with=
lagging as it will cause its early=C2=A0demise due to rust.=C2=A0=C2=A0
I was told that=C2=A018 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are s=
till intact.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Best--Michael Oritt
=C2=A0
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
I am jumping in on this subject a bit late, so I do not know if Bob has a t=
hermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve for the bypass or not. Either t=
hat type of thermostat or a fixed blanking sleeve for the bypass would be e=
ssential for this climate. Or any climate for that matter.=C2=A0=C2=A0
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
To: 'Perry' <healeyguy@aol.com>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator
I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool winter day is=
today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a high =
of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph.=C2=A0 Great for a day sail on the Ha=
rbor which I will do in the next hour.=C2=A0 However, it does make driving =
a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator t=
o handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature does =
not go down only up.=C2=A0 So the next step is to re-core the radiator.=C2=
=A0 The local radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new =
core using the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity=
.=C2=A0 This is a SKI purchase.=C2=A0 Spend the Kids Inheritance.=C2=A0 The=
n I will think about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vap=
or lock.
=C2=A0
What do you think about Push and Pull?=C2=A0 Take off the engine fan?
=C2=A0
By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bathed, everythi=
ng in the engine during his machining of the engine to bring it up to speci=
fications.=C2=A0 He knows what to do.=C2=A0 The only modification is the 20=
over pistons.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0
Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this problem, =
who knows?
=C2=A0
Bob=20
=C2=A0
From: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
To: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator
=C2=A0
Bob
With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow the car shoul=
d be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There is som=
ething else amiss in the equation.
Perry
=C2=A0
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
=C2=A0
From: Robert Begani
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
To: 'Perry'
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator
=C2=A0
Hi Perry:
=C2=A0
I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss wi=
th the largest diameter to fit the radiator.=C2=A0 As a pusher it really pu=
shes air through the engine compartment at low speeds and standing still. I=
still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine.=C2=A0 As I was sea=
rching overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not recommende=
d as they act against each other.
=C2=A0
Bob
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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Is SU making fuel pumps for Toyota?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/14/business/toyota-fuel-pump-recall-trnd/index.=
html=20
#yiv1073365818 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Not funny! We just bought =
a 2019 Camry...
I wonder if a Mr. Gasket pump will work there? Fixed my Healey.
Bill LawrenceBN1 #554From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on beha=
lf of Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 2:20 AM
To: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] [OT] Toyota is recalling nearly 700, 000 vehicles becaus=
e of issues with the fuel pumps - CNN=C2=A0Is SU making fuel pumps for Toyo=
ta?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/14/business/toyota-fuel-pump-recall-trnd/index.=
html
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p; theexisting radiator (Michael Oritt)<br> 6. Re: Over heati=
ng and adding additional core tubes to<br> theexisting =
radiator (Roger Grace)<br> 7. Re: Over heating and adding additional=
core tubes to<br> theexisting radiator (Chris Dimmock)=
<br> 8. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes<br> =
totheexisting radiator (Perry)<br> 9. Re: Over heating=
and adding additional core tubes<br> totheexisting rad=
iator (Perry)<br> 10. [OT] Toyota is recalling nearly 700, 000 vehicl=
es because of<br> issues with the fuel pumps - CNN (Bob=
Spidell)<br> 11. Re: [OT] Toyota is recalling nearly 700, 000 vehicl=
es because<br> of issues with the fuel pumps - CNN (WIL=
LIAM B LAWRENCE)<br><div class=3D"ymsg1817808249" id=3D"ymsg32468" src=3D"m=
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I have a BJ8 with:<br>
<br>
- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core<br>
- Texas Cooler fan<br>
- recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K miles--hot-tanked,
properly tuned, etc.--and Robertshaw sleeved 180degF thermostat<br>
- Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold<br>
<br>
... and a BN2/100M with:<br>
<br>
- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core<br>
- OEM art deco fan<br>
- rebuilt engine with a couple thousand miles at most--still working
on 'perfect' mixture--and garden-variety Stant 180degF thermostat<br>
- manifold with high-temp 'authentic color' paint only<br>
<br>
Both behave identically, i.e. will run 'cool'--160degF or less--on
cool days, 180degF on 'typical' days (72degF), and both will get hot
(over 200) sitting in traffic on typical or hotter days or pulling
up a long grade.<br>
<br>
FWIW<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"yiv1073365818moz-cite-prefix">On 1/14/2020 9:58 AM, Micha=
el Salter
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
<div><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:arial, sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;">"Why
do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this pro=
blem,
who knows?"</span>
<div><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:arial, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:arial, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;">Bob
that has perplexed me for decades but certainly seems to b=
e
reality.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:arial, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;">Good
luck with your modifications ... I have always foun=
d that
additional tubes in the radiator make a huge difference. <=
/span></div>
<div><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:arial, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:arial, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;">M</span></div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Jan 14, =
2020, 12:27 PM
Robert Begani, <<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani=
@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang=3D"EN-US">
<div class=3D"yiv1073365818m_-2388756254178813721WordSection1">
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;">I
agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a
cool winter day is today, where the temperature is
currently 79 degrees and rising to a high of 83
degrees with a se wind at 7 mph. Great for a day sa=
il
on the Harbor which I will do in the next hour.
However, it does make driving a hot car fun. There is
not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator to
handle hot climates and have to stop and go because
the temperature does not go down only up. So the ne=
xt
step is to re-core the radiator. The local radiator
guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new
core using the old tanks which will give at least 50%
more cooling capacity. This is a SKI purchase. =
; Spend
the Kids Inheritance. Then I will think about
wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop
vapor lock.</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;">What
do you think about Push and Pull? Take off the engi=
ne
fan?</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;">By
the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out,
oil bathed, everything in the engine during his
machining of the engine to bring it up to
specifications. He knows what to do. The only
modification is the 20 over pistons. </span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;">Why
do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have =
this
problem, who knows?</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;">Bob
</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;"> </span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;pa=
dding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Perry &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" y=
mailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>healeyguy@aol.com</a>>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert Begani <<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@g=
mail.com">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] Over heating and
adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator</p=
>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Bob</p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">With the extras that you =
have added
to facilitate the airflow the car should be running much
cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There is
something else amiss in the equation. </p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Perry</p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"http=
s://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofo=
llow">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padd=
ing:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href=3D=
"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:rfbegani@gmail.com">Robert
Begani</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>'Perry'</a><=
br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding
additional core tubes to theexisting radiator</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;">Hi
Perry:</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;">I
do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan
offered by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the
radiator. As a pusher it really pushes air through
the engine compartment at low speeds and standing
still. I still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on
the engine. As I was searching overheating problems=
,
one reference indicated that is not recommended as
they act against each other.</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;">Bob</span></p>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<pre class=3D"yiv1073365818moz-quote-pre"></pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
</div></div><div class=3D"ymsg1817808249" id=3D"ymsg61316" src=3D"mid://AI_=
z_NJxAFQXXh9hQAJ8uAtj9a4/3.2"><div id=3D"yiv1073365818">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial;">If you have a 180 degree T,stat=
& your engine is running 160 degrees on a cool day your T'stat must be=
broken!
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Gary Hodson<br>
<br>
<br>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black;">---=
--Original Message-----<br>
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 1:41 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"yiv1073365818">
<div>
I have a BJ8 with:<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core<br clear=3D"none">
- Texas Cooler fan<br clear=3D"none">
- recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K miles--hot-tanked,
properly tuned, etc.--and Robertshaw sleeved 180degF thermostat<br clea=
r=3D"none">
- Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
... and a BN2/100M with:<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core<br clear=3D"none">
- OEM art deco fan<br clear=3D"none">
- rebuilt engine with a couple thousand miles at most--still working
on 'perfect' mixture--and garden-variety Stant 180degF thermostat<br cl=
ear=3D"none">
- manifold with high-temp 'authentic color' paint only<br clear=3D"none=
">
<br clear=3D"none">
Both behave identically, i.e. will run 'cool'--160degF or less--on
cool days, 180degF on 'typical' days (72degF), and both will get hot
(over 200) sitting in traffic on typical or hotter days or pulling
up a long grade.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
FWIW<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Bob<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
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</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div></div><div class=3D"ymsg1817808249" id=3D"ymsg13118" src=3D"mid://AI_=
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<div>
Nope. Have confirmed thermostat's function, tried several and
others report their cars do the same. No one knows why.<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"yiv1073365818moz-cite-prefix">On 1/14/2020 1:28 PM,
<a class=3D"yiv1073365818moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:war=
thodson@aol.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:warth=
odson@aol.com">warthodson@aol.com</a> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial;">If you have a 180
degree T,stat & your engine is running 160 degrees on a cool
day your T'stat must be broken!
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Gary Hodson<br>
<br>
<br>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:b=
lack;">-----Original
Message-----<br>
From: Bob Spidell <a class=3D"yiv1073365818moz-txt-link-rfc2396=
E" href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";><bspidell@comcast.net></a><br=
>
To: healeys <a class=3D"yiv1073365818moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" hre=
f=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br=
>
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 1:41 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional
core tubes to theexisting radiator<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"yiv1073365818">
<div> I have a BJ8 with:<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core<br clear=3D"none">
- Texas Cooler fan<br clear=3D"none">
- recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K
miles--hot-tanked, properly tuned, etc.--and Robertshaw
sleeved 180degF thermostat<br clear=3D"none">
- Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
... and a BN2/100M with:<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core<br clear=3D"none">
- OEM art deco fan<br clear=3D"none">
- rebuilt engine with a couple thousand miles at
most--still working on 'perfect' mixture--and
garden-variety Stant 180degF thermostat<br clear=3D"none">
- manifold with high-temp 'authentic color' paint only<br c=
lear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Both behave identically, i.e. will run 'cool'--160degF
or less--on cool days, 180degF on 'typical' days
(72degF), and both will get hot (over 200) sitting in
traffic on typical or hotter days or pulling up a long
grade.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
FWIW<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Bob<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
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18yqtfd26552">
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</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
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3365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans=
-serif;color:#1F497D;'>Thanks Bob, I am working my way through the program.=
The engine was just rebuilt with only 100 miles on it by a well know=
machine shop and boiled cleaned etc. can only hope they did the right job.=
</span></p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.=
0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:=
"Arial", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'>Have a original Texas cooler and the Sh=
ovel to direct the air through to the radiator which had a high cfm pusher =
fan. I have installed the tunnel which is wrapped in aluminum and som=
e rubber insulation inside and out. It weighs a ton and does not get hot.&n=
bsp; However, the gear shifter porthole does not have the rubber seal so th=
e air coming out of it is tremendous at 2000-3000 rpm, so the shovel really=
works. But, still the temperature rises</span></p><p class=3D"yiv107=
3365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans=
-serif;color:#1F497D;'>Within 2 weeks the original radiator will be re-core=
d. I am hoping that this will greatly reduce the coolant temperature to the=
level you describe.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'> &n=
bsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'>Meanwhile, I have a=
good list of items to consider adjusting. Will keep you all informed=
of the progress.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'>  =
;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12=
.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'>Bob Begani</span></p><=
p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'>67 BJ8</span></p><p class=3D"=
yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial"=
, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;col=
or:#1F497D;'> </span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:so=
lid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoN=
ormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Be=
half Of </b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 14, 2020 2:41 PM<b=
r><b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Over h=
eating and adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator</p></div></=
div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"yiv107336581=
8MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;">I have a BJ8 with:<br><br>- OEM=
radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core<br>- Texas Cooler fan<br>- recently rebui=
lt engine with approx. 6K miles--hot-tanked, properly tuned, etc.--and Robe=
rtshaw sleeved 180degF thermostat<br>- Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold<br><=
br>... and a BN2/100M with:<br><br>- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core<b=
r>- OEM art deco fan<br>- rebuilt engine with a couple thousand miles at mo=
st--still working on 'perfect' mixture--and garden-variety Stant 180degF th=
ermostat<br>- manifold with high-temp 'authentic color' paint only<br><br>B=
oth behave identically, i.e. will run 'cool'--160degF or less--on cool days=
, 180degF on 'typical' days (72degF), and both will get hot (over 200) sitt=
ing in traffic on typical or hotter days or pulling up a long grade.<br><br=
>FWIW<br><br>Bob</p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p></div></=
div></div></div><div class=3D"ymsg1817808249" id=3D"ymsg82370" src=3D"mid:/=
/AI_z_NJxAFQXXh9hQAJ8uAtj9a4/3.5"><div id=3D"yiv1073365818"><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">Robert=
--</div><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">=
<br></div><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;=
">I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust system wi=
th lagging as it will cause its early demise due to rust. <=
/div><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">I w=
as told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are stil=
l intact. <br></div><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"color:#3333ff;"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_quote"><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_attr" dir=
=3D"ltr">On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"=
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<div>
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial;">I am jumping in on this subject=
a bit late, so I do not know if Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a m=
oving sleeve for the bypass or not. Either that type of thermostat or a fix=
ed blanking sleeve for the bypass would be essential for this climate. Or a=
ny climate for that matter. <br clear=3D"none">
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--Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Robert Begani <<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani@gmail.=
com</a>><br clear=3D"none">
To: 'Perry' <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>healeyguy@aol.com</a>>=
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Cc: healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
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eam.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator<br clear=3D"none">
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<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">I agree with you, however, this is sou=
th Florida where a cool winter day is today, where the temperature is curre=
ntly 79 degrees and rising to a high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph.=
Great for a day sail on the Harbor which I will do in the next hour.=
However, it does make driving a hot car fun. There is not enough coo=
ling capacity in the stock radiator to handle hot climates and have to stop=
and go because the temperature does not go down only up. So the next=
step is to re-core the radiator. The local radiator guy knows the pr=
oblem and for $500 will provide new core using the old tanks which will giv=
e at least 50% more cooling capacity. This is a SKI purchase. S=
pend the Kids Inheritance. Then I will think about wrapping the exhau=
st manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">What do you think about Push and Pull?=
Take off the engine fan?</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">By the way, I know the engine machine =
shop boiled out, oil bathed, everything in the engine during his machining =
of the engine to bring it up to specifications. He knows what to do.&=
nbsp; The only modification is the 20 over pistons. </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a s=
tock radiator not have this problem, who knows?</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Bob </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in;">
<div><b>From:</b> Perry <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>healeyguy@aol=
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Robert Begani <<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani=
@gmail.com</a>><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes=
to theexisting radiator</div>
</div>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Bob</div>
<div>With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow the car =
should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There i=
s something else amiss in the equation. </div>
<div>Perry</div>
<div> </div>
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el=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>Robert=
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<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
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<b>Subject: </b>RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes=
to theexisting radiator</div>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Hi Perry:</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">I do not remember the CFM, however, it=
is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the rad=
iator. As a pusher it really pushes air through the engine compartmen=
t at low speeds and standing still. I still have an original Texas 6 blade =
fan on the engine. As I was searching overheating problems, one refer=
ence indicated that is not recommended as they act against each other.</spa=
n></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Bob</span></div>
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nt-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;}</style><div><div>Just a thought ..=
.<br></div><div>Our cars all run hotter when idling and consequent reduced =
airflow.<br></div><div>However both fan airflow and water flow are proporti=
onal to speed.<br></div><div>So at 750 RPM idle compared to say 1500 RPM th=
e air flow (engine driven fan) and coolant flow is reduced by a factor of 2=
.<br></div><div>So increasing just the airfow with constant speed E fans ha=
s somewhat limited effect.<br></div><div>It had minor improvement for me in=
traffic.<br></div><div>I then installed an electric water pump to compensa=
te for the reduced coolant flow at idling.<br></div><div>Works really well =
in conjuction with an E fan<br></div><div>The E pump is almost invisible in=
the engine compartment - you have to really look for it. It is installed i=
n line in the bottom hose.<br></div><div>Both are controlled from a single =
switch under the dash - via a relay. BTW I have a natural dislike for therm=
ostats but that would work too. <br></div><div>So whenever the engine is re=
ally up to temp (sustained run) and am approaching traffic I switch them bo=
th on.<br></div><div>Works fine and relaible so far - but now do keep a spa=
re bottom hose in my trunk.<br></div><div>rg<br></div><div><br></div><div>-=
---- Original Message -----<br>From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.=
com><br>To: warthodson@aol.com<br>Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.te=
am.net><br>Sent: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:04:11 -0700 (MST)<br>Subject: Re: [=
Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to theexisting radia=
tor<br></div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gma=
il_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">Robert--</div><div class=3D"yiv1073365=
818gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv10733=
65818gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">I'm sure you'll hear you shoul=
d definitely NOT wrap the exhaust system with lagging as it will cause its =
early demise due to rust. </div><div class=3D"yiv1073365818=
gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">I was told that 18 years ago a=
nd didn't listen--my steel headers are still intact. <br><=
/div><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;"><br=
></div><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">B=
est--Michael Oritt</div></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gma=
il_quote"><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Jan 14=
, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid #cccccc;padding-left:1ex;"><div style=3D"color:black;font:=
10pt arial;"><div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;colo=
r:black;"><div id=3D"yiv1073365818gmail-m_-4359560931621364984yiv1047233329=
"><div><div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial;">I am jumping in on this =
subject a bit late, so I do not know if Bob has a thermostat that incorpora=
tes a moving sleeve for the bypass or not. Either that type of thermostat o=
r a fixed blanking sleeve for the bypass would be essential for this climat=
e. Or any climate for that matter. <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;fon=
t-size:10pt;color:black;">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none"><br>=
From: Robert Begani <<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani@gmail.=
com</a>><br clear=3D"none"><br>To: 'Perry' <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyg=
uy@aol.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@=
aol.com">healeyguy@aol.com</a>><br clear=3D"none"><br>Cc: healeys <<a=
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br=
clear=3D"none"><br>Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am<br clear=3D"none"><br>=
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"yiv107336=
5818gmail-m_-4359560931621364984yiv1047233329yqt90724"><div id=3D"yiv107336=
5818gmail-m_-4359560931621364984yiv1047233329"><div><div><div><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;">I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where=
a cool winter day is today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees =
and rising to a high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph. Great for=
a day sail on the Harbor which I will do in the next hour. However, =
it does make driving a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in=
the stock radiator to handle hot climates and have to stop and go because =
the temperature does not go down only up. So the next step is to re-c=
ore the radiator. The local radiator guy knows the problem and for $5=
00 will provide new core using the old tanks which will give at least 50% m=
ore cooling capacity. This is a SKI purchase. Spend the Kids In=
heritance. Then I will think about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and=
headers to stop vapor lock.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt=
;"> </span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">What do you thi=
nk about Push and Pull? Take off the engine fan?</span></div><div><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div><div><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12pt;">By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bathe=
d, everything in the engine during his machining of the engine to bring it =
up to specifications. He knows what to do. The only modificatio=
n is the 20 over pistons. </span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:=
12pt;"> </span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Why do othe=
r Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this problem, who knows?<=
/span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div><div><=
span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Bob </span></div><div><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12pt;"> </span></div><div><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-b=
ottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid #e1e1e1;padding:3pt 0in 0i=
n;"><div><b>From:</b> Perry <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>healeyguy=
@aol.com</a>> <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 14, 2020 =
11:47 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Robert Begani <<a href=3D"mailto:r=
fbegani@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfb=
egani@gmail.com">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>><br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</=
b> RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to theexisti=
ng radiator</div></div></div><div> </div><div>Bob</div><div>With the e=
xtras that you have added to facilitate the airflow the car should be runni=
ng much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There is something els=
e amiss in the equation.</div><div>Perry</div><div> </div><div>Sent fr=
om <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986"; target=3D"_=
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href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>Robert Begani</a><br clear=
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ofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>'Perry'</a><br=
clear=3D"none"><b>Subject: </b>RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding addit=
ional core tubes to theexisting radiator</div></div><div> </div><div><=
span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Hi Perry:</span></div><div><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;"> </span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">I d=
o not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss with =
the largest diameter to fit the radiator. As a pusher it really pushe=
s air through the engine compartment at low speeds and standing still. I st=
ill have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine. As I was search=
ing overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not recommended a=
s they act against each other.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12=
pt;"> </span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Bob</span></d=
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v><div>Replaced mufflers twice, but that's a road abrasion issue due to my =
lack of ground clearance...</div><div>Best</div><div>Chris</div><div><br></=
div><div><br>On 15 Jan 2020, at 10:04 am, Michael Oritt <<a href=3D"mail=
to:michael.oritt@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><b=
r></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"yiv10=
73365818gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">Robert--</div><div class=3D=
"yiv1073365818gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;"><br></div><div class=
=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">I'm sure you'll he=
ar you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust system with lagging as it wil=
l cause its early demise due to rust. </div><div class=3D"y=
iv1073365818gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">I was told that 18=
years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are still intact.  =
; <br></div><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_default" style=3D"color:#=
3333ff;"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_default" style=3D"color=
:#3333ff;">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gm=
ail_quote"><div class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Jan 1=
4, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
s@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"yiv1073365818gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
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<div id=3D"yiv1073365818gmail-m_-4359560931621364984yiv1047233329">
<div>
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial;">I am jumping in on this subject=
a bit late, so I do not know if Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a m=
oving sleeve for the bypass or not. Either that type of thermostat or a fix=
ed blanking sleeve for the bypass would be essential for this climate. Or a=
ny climate for that matter. <br clear=3D"none">
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black;">---=
--Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Robert Begani <<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani@gmail.=
com</a>><br clear=3D"none">
To: 'Perry' <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>healeyguy@aol.com</a>>=
;<br clear=3D"none">
Cc: healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.t=
eam.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator<br clear=3D"none">
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<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">I agree with you, however, this is sou=
th Florida where a cool winter day is today, where the temperature is curre=
ntly 79 degrees and rising to a high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph.=
Great for a day sail on the Harbor which I will do in the next hour.=
However, it does make driving a hot car fun. There is not enough coo=
ling capacity in the stock radiator to handle hot climates and have to stop=
and go because the temperature does not go down only up. So the next=
step is to re-core the radiator. The local radiator guy knows the pr=
oblem and for $500 will provide new core using the old tanks which will giv=
e at least 50% more cooling capacity. This is a SKI purchase. S=
pend the Kids Inheritance. Then I will think about wrapping the exhau=
st manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">What do you think about Push and Pull?=
Take off the engine fan?</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">By the way, I know the engine machine =
shop boiled out, oil bathed, everything in the engine during his machining =
of the engine to bring it up to specifications. He knows what to do.&=
nbsp; The only modification is the 20 over pistons. </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a s=
tock radiator not have this problem, who knows?</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Bob </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in;">
<div><b>From:</b> Perry <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>healeyguy@aol=
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Robert Begani <<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani=
@gmail.com</a>><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes=
to theexisting radiator</div>
</div>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Bob</div>
<div>With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow the car =
should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There i=
s something else amiss in the equation. </div>
<div>Perry</div>
<div> </div>
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<div><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" r=
el=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>Robert=
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<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
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<b>Subject: </b>RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes=
to theexisting radiator</div>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Hi Perry:</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">I do not remember the CFM, however, it=
is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the rad=
iator. As a pusher it really pushes air through the engine compartmen=
t at low speeds and standing still. I still have an original Texas 6 blade =
fan on the engine. As I was searching overheating problems, one refer=
ence indicated that is not recommended as they act against each other.</spa=
n></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Bob</span></div>
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--></style><div><div class=3D"yiv1073365818WordSection1"><p class=3D"yiv107=
3365818MsoNormal">Roger</p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">The constant=
flow of water (coolant, regardless of engine RPM, to maximize the cooling =
ability, is an interesting thought. My thermodynamics classes were lo=
ng ago and I really wasn=E2=80=99t paying attention. Okay maybe a lit=
tle but not much. </p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">I sent the info b=
elow to Bob earlier and did not copy the list. Its about a issue (bol=
d stuff below) that I have found several times when cleaning a six cylinder=
block during a rebuild.</p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Perry</p><p=
class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNo=
rmal">=E2=80=9CBob</p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">With 37 years liv=
ing in Hawaii I understand the impact of tropical weather. I used to dread =
when asked to participate in a parade with the stock 100. With no fan shrou=
d the 4 blade stock fan only moved about 1000 CFM and that was not at idle.=
The car at even 30MPH has plenty of air flow through the rad. A pusher fan=
actually has the possibility of blocking air flow at speed. Ignition=
timing has an impact on the running temp but is not the game changer. Carb=
mixture settings (to lean) will push the temps up. <b><span style=3D"font-=
size:14.0pt;">That said the six cylinder cars seem to have less overheating=
issues then the 100=E2=80=99s. </span></b></p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818Mso=
Normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;">On at least 6 3000 engines I h=
ave found extreme buildup of debris inside the water passages at the lower =
areas adjacent to the cylinders. Less on cylinders 1 and 6. Block paint was=
discolored on a couple of them in that area. Boiling the block did not rem=
ove the crud. I used a piece of speedo cable in a drill motor to brak=
e up the corrosion and air and vacuum to get it out of the blocks. Of cours=
e it required a stripped block with freeze plugs removed.</span></b> </p><p=
class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Ok Bob, while I=E2=80=99m putting this em=
ail together I see that a bunch of folks jumped in. Looks like simila=
r thoughts. </p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">P</p><p class=3D"yiv107=
3365818MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p=
><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818Ms=
oNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550=
986" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=
=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top=
:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"yiv1073365818M=
soNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in;"><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto=
:roggrace@telus.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:r=
oggrace@telus.net">Roger Grace</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 14, 202=
0 6:53 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>Mic=
hael Oritt</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Au=
stin Healey</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding ad=
ditional core tubes totheexisting radiator</p></div><p class=3D"yiv10733658=
18MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'=
font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Just a thoug=
ht ...</span></p><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Our cars all r=
un hotter when idling and consequent reduced airflow.</span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>However both fan airflow and water f=
low are proportional to speed.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv10733658=
18MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-seri=
f;color:black;'>So at 750 RPM idle compared to say 1500 RPM the air flow (e=
ngine driven fan) and coolant flow is reduced by a factor of 2.</span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0=
pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>So increasing just the air=
fow with constant speed E fans has somewhat limited effect.</span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>It had minor improvement for m=
e in traffic.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>I=
then installed an electric water pump to compensate for the reduced coolan=
t flow at idling.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black=
;'>Works really well in conjuction with an E fan</span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:=
"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>The E pump is almost invisible in the eng=
ine compartment - you have to really look for it. It is installed in line i=
n the bottom hose.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:blac=
k;'>Both are controlled from a single switch under the dash - via a relay. =
BTW I have a natural dislike for thermostats but that would work too. </spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>So whenever the eng=
ine is really up to temp (sustained run) and am approaching traffic I switc=
h them both on.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'=
>Works fine and relaible so far - but now do keep a spare bottom hose in my=
trunk.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>rg</spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0=
pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>----- Original Message ---=
--<br>From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com><br>To: warthodson=
@aol.com<br>Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net><br>Sent: Tue, =
14 Jan 2020 16:04:11 -0700 (MST)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and=
adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator</span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><div><p=
class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial", sans-serif;color:#3333FF;'>Robert--</span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"=
Arial", sans-serif;color:#3333FF;'> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial=
", sans-serif;color:#3333FF;'>I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NO=
T wrap the exhaust system with lagging as it will cause its early demi=
se due to rust. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818M=
soNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;c=
olor:#3333FF;'>I was told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my stee=
l headers are still intact. </span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial", sans-serif;color:#3333FF;'> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"y=
iv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",=
sans-serif;color:#3333FF;'>Best--Michael Oritt</span></p></div></div><div>=
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><div><p=
class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM wartho=
dson--- via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys=
@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:=
none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:=
4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><div id=3D"yiv1073365818gmail-m_-4359560=
931621364984yiv1047233329"><div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>I am jumping in on this subject a bit late=
, so I do not know if Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a moving sleev=
e for the bypass or not. Either that type of thermostat or a fixed blanking=
sleeve for the bypass would be essential for this climate. Or any climate =
for that matter. <br><br></span></p><div><p class=3D"yiv10733658=
18MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>-----Original Message-----<=
br><br>From: Robert Begani <<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani=
@gmail.com</a>><br><br>To: 'Perry' <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.c=
om" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"=
>healeyguy@aol.com</a>><br><br>Cc: healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:heale=
ys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><br>Sent: Tue, Jan 14,=
2020 11:27 am<br><br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additi=
onal core tubes to theexisting radiator</span></p><div id=3D"yiv1073365818g=
mail-m_-4359560931621364984yiv1047233329yqt90724"><div id=3D"yiv1073365818g=
mail-m_-4359560931621364984yiv1047233329"><div><div><div><p class=3D"yiv107=
3365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans=
-serif;color:black;'>I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where=
a cool winter day is today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees =
and rising to a high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph. Great for=
a day sail on the Harbor which I will do in the next hour. However, =
it does make driving a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in=
the stock radiator to handle hot climates and have to stop and go because =
the temperature does not go down only up. So the next step is to re-c=
ore the radiator. The local radiator guy knows the problem and for $5=
00 will provide new core using the old tanks which will give at least 50% m=
ore cooling capacity. This is a SKI purchase. Spend the Kids In=
heritance. Then I will think about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and=
headers to stop vapor lock.</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv=
1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", s=
ans-serif;color:black;'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"y=
iv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",=
sans-serif;color:black;'>What do you think about Push and Pull? Take=
off the engine fan?</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv10733658=
18MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-seri=
f;color:black;'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"A=
rial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv107336=
5818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-se=
rif;color:black;'>By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oi=
l bathed, everything in the engine during his machining of the engine to br=
ing it up to specifications. He knows what to do. The only modi=
fication is the 20 over pistons. </span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family=
:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><p=
class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a s=
tock radiator not have this problem, who knows?</span><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Bob </span><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></d=
iv><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.=
0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><b><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>From:</s=
pan></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;col=
or:black;'> Perry <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>healeyguy@aol.com</=
a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ro=
bert Begani <<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional cor=
e tubes to theexisting radiator</span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1=
073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sa=
ns-serif;color:black;'>Bob</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;co=
lor:black;'>With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow t=
he car should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. =
There is something else amiss in the equation.</span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"A=
rial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Perry</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1=
073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sa=
ns-serif;color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv107336581=
8MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif=
;color:black;'>Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=
=3D550986" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow">Mail</a> for Windows 10</span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></p></d=
iv><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in;"><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>From: </span></=
b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:bla=
ck;'><a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>Robert Begani</a><br><b>Sent: </b>=
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeygu=
y@aol.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@a=
ol.com">'Perry'</a><br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [Healeys] Over heating and addin=
g additional core tubes to theexisting radiator</span></p></div></div><div>=
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Hi Perry:</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>I do not remember the CFM, however, i=
t is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the ra=
diator. As a pusher it really pushes air through the engine compartme=
nt at low speeds and standing still. I still have an original Texas 6 blade=
fan on the engine. As I was searching overheating problems, one refe=
rence indicated that is not recommended as they act against each other.</sp=
an><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:bl=
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--></style><div><div class=3D"yiv1073365818WordSection1"><p class=3D"yiv107=
3365818MsoNormal">Roger</p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">The constant=
flow of water (coolant, regardless of engine RPM, to maximize the cooling =
ability, is an interesting thought. My thermodynamics classes were lo=
ng ago and I really wasn=E2=80=99t paying attention. Okay maybe a lit=
tle but not much. </p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">I sent the info b=
elow to Bob earlier and did not copy the list. Its about a issue (bol=
d stuff below) that I have found several times when cleaning a six cylinder=
block during a rebuild.</p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Perry</p><p=
class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNo=
rmal">=E2=80=9CBob</p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">With 37 years liv=
ing in Hawaii I understand the impact of tropical weather. I used to dread =
when asked to participate in a parade with the stock 100. With no fan shrou=
d the 4 blade stock fan only moved about 1000 CFM and that was not at idle.=
The car at even 30MPH has plenty of air flow through the rad. A pusher fan=
actually has the possibility of blocking air flow at speed. Ignition=
timing has an impact on the running temp but is not the game changer. Carb=
mixture settings (to lean) will push the temps up. <b><span style=3D"font-=
size:14.0pt;">That said the six cylinder cars seem to have less overheating=
issues then the 100=E2=80=99s. </span></b></p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818Mso=
Normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;">On at least 6 3000 engines I h=
ave found extreme buildup of debris inside the water passages at the lower =
areas adjacent to the cylinders. Less on cylinders 1 and 6. Block paint was=
discolored on a couple of them in that area. Boiling the block did not rem=
ove the crud. I used a piece of speedo cable in a drill motor to brak=
e up the corrosion and air and vacuum to get it out of the blocks. Of cours=
e it required a stripped block with freeze plugs removed.</span></b> </p><p=
class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Ok Bob, while I=E2=80=99m putting this em=
ail together I see that a bunch of folks jumped in. Looks like simila=
r thoughts. </p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">P</p><p class=3D"yiv107=
3365818MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p=
><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818Ms=
oNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550=
986" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=
=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top=
:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"yiv1073365818M=
soNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in;"><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto=
:roggrace@telus.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:r=
oggrace@telus.net">Roger Grace</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 14, 202=
0 6:53 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>Mic=
hael Oritt</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Au=
stin Healey</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding ad=
ditional core tubes totheexisting radiator</p></div><p class=3D"yiv10733658=
18MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'=
font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Just a thoug=
ht ...</span></p><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Our cars all r=
un hotter when idling and consequent reduced airflow.</span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>However both fan airflow and water f=
low are proportional to speed.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv10733658=
18MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-seri=
f;color:black;'>So at 750 RPM idle compared to say 1500 RPM the air flow (e=
ngine driven fan) and coolant flow is reduced by a factor of 2.</span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0=
pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>So increasing just the air=
fow with constant speed E fans has somewhat limited effect.</span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>It had minor improvement for m=
e in traffic.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>I=
then installed an electric water pump to compensate for the reduced coolan=
t flow at idling.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black=
;'>Works really well in conjuction with an E fan</span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:=
"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>The E pump is almost invisible in the eng=
ine compartment - you have to really look for it. It is installed in line i=
n the bottom hose.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:blac=
k;'>Both are controlled from a single switch under the dash - via a relay. =
BTW I have a natural dislike for thermostats but that would work too. </spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>So whenever the eng=
ine is really up to temp (sustained run) and am approaching traffic I switc=
h them both on.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'=
>Works fine and relaible so far - but now do keep a spare bottom hose in my=
trunk.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>rg</spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0=
pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>----- Original Message ---=
--<br>From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com><br>To: warthodson=
@aol.com<br>Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net><br>Sent: Tue, =
14 Jan 2020 16:04:11 -0700 (MST)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and=
adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator</span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><div><p=
class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial", sans-serif;color:#3333FF;'>Robert--</span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"=
Arial", sans-serif;color:#3333FF;'> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial=
", sans-serif;color:#3333FF;'>I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NO=
T wrap the exhaust system with lagging as it will cause its early demi=
se due to rust. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818M=
soNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;c=
olor:#3333FF;'>I was told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my stee=
l headers are still intact. </span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial", sans-serif;color:#3333FF;'> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"y=
iv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",=
sans-serif;color:#3333FF;'>Best--Michael Oritt</span></p></div></div><div>=
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><div><p=
class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM wartho=
dson--- via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys=
@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:=
none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:=
4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><div id=3D"yiv1073365818gmail-m_-4359560=
931621364984yiv1047233329"><div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>I am jumping in on this subject a bit late=
, so I do not know if Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a moving sleev=
e for the bypass or not. Either that type of thermostat or a fixed blanking=
sleeve for the bypass would be essential for this climate. Or any climate =
for that matter. <br><br></span></p><div><p class=3D"yiv10733658=
18MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>-----Original Message-----<=
br><br>From: Robert Begani <<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani=
@gmail.com</a>><br><br>To: 'Perry' <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.c=
om" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"=
>healeyguy@aol.com</a>><br><br>Cc: healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:heale=
ys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><br>Sent: Tue, Jan 14,=
2020 11:27 am<br><br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additi=
onal core tubes to theexisting radiator</span></p><div id=3D"yiv1073365818g=
mail-m_-4359560931621364984yiv1047233329yqt90724"><div id=3D"yiv1073365818g=
mail-m_-4359560931621364984yiv1047233329"><div><div><div><p class=3D"yiv107=
3365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans=
-serif;color:black;'>I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where=
a cool winter day is today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees =
and rising to a high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph. Great for=
a day sail on the Harbor which I will do in the next hour. However, =
it does make driving a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in=
the stock radiator to handle hot climates and have to stop and go because =
the temperature does not go down only up. So the next step is to re-c=
ore the radiator. The local radiator guy knows the problem and for $5=
00 will provide new core using the old tanks which will give at least 50% m=
ore cooling capacity. This is a SKI purchase. Spend the Kids In=
heritance. Then I will think about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and=
headers to stop vapor lock.</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv=
1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", s=
ans-serif;color:black;'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"y=
iv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",=
sans-serif;color:black;'>What do you think about Push and Pull? Take=
off the engine fan?</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv10733658=
18MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-seri=
f;color:black;'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"A=
rial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv107336=
5818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-se=
rif;color:black;'>By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oi=
l bathed, everything in the engine during his machining of the engine to br=
ing it up to specifications. He knows what to do. The only modi=
fication is the 20 over pistons. </span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family=
:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><p=
class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a s=
tock radiator not have this problem, who knows?</span><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Bob </span><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></d=
iv><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.=
0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><b><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>From:</s=
pan></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;col=
or:black;'> Perry <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>healeyguy@aol.com</=
a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ro=
bert Begani <<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional cor=
e tubes to theexisting radiator</span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1=
073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sa=
ns-serif;color:black;'>Bob</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;co=
lor:black;'>With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow t=
he car should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. =
There is something else amiss in the equation.</span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"A=
rial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Perry</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1=
073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sa=
ns-serif;color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv107336581=
8MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif=
;color:black;'>Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=
=3D550986" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow">Mail</a> for Windows 10</span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></p></d=
iv><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in;"><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>From: </span></=
b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:bla=
ck;'><a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>Robert Begani</a><br><b>Sent: </b>=
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeygu=
y@aol.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@a=
ol.com">'Perry'</a><br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [Healeys] Over heating and addin=
g additional core tubes to theexisting radiator</span></p></div></div><div>=
<p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Hi Perry:</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>I do not remember the CFM, however, i=
t is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the ra=
diator. As a pusher it really pushes air through the engine compartme=
nt at low speeds and standing still. I still have an original Texas 6 blade=
fan on the engine. As I was searching overheating problems, one refe=
rence indicated that is not recommended as they act against each other.</sp=
an><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:bl=
ack;'></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
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