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Agree with Allen on WIzard and have a 160 thermo with electric fan in front=
of rad. temp runs about 175 and stalled in traffic about 195. I did flus=
h engine with Tide detergent(drive car around for about and hour to circula=
te then drain and rinse with fresh water while engine is running)
> On January 15, 2020 at 3:46 PM "allan-peters@sky.com" <allan-peters@sky.c=
om> wrote:
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> =20
> =20
> The ALLOY Radiators from Wizard Cooling will solve your cooling pr=
oblems. my 100 temp dropped to around 90 in summer.
> So Florida Sun should be no problem !!
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> On Thursday, 16 January 2020, 08:00:16 GMT+13, healeys-request@autox.=
team.net <healeys-request@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
> theexisting radiator (Bob Spidell)
> 2. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
> theexisting radiator ( warthodson@aol.com mailto:warthodson@aol=
.com )
> 3. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
> theexisting radiator (Bob Spidell)
> 4. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
> theexisting radiator (Robert Begani)
> 5. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
> theexisting radiator (Michael Oritt)
> 6. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
> theexisting radiator (Roger Grace)
> 7. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
> theexisting radiator (Chris Dimmock)
> 8. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes
> totheexisting radiator (Perry)
> 9. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes
> totheexisting radiator (Perry)
> 10. [OT] Toyota is recalling nearly 700, 000 vehicles because of
> issues with the fuel pumps - CNN (Bob Spidell)
> 11. Re: [OT] Toyota is recalling nearly 700, 000 vehicles because
> of issues with the fuel pumps - CNN (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)
> I have a BJ8 with:
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> - OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
> - Texas Cooler fan
> - recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K miles--hot-tanked, properly=
tuned, etc.--and Robertshaw sleeved 180degF thermostat
> - Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold
>=20
> ... and a BN2/100M with:
>=20
> - OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
> - OEM art deco fan
> - rebuilt engine with a couple thousand miles at most--still working =
on 'perfect' mixture--and garden-variety Stant 180degF thermostat
> - manifold with high-temp 'authentic color' paint only
>=20
> Both behave identically, i.e. will run 'cool'--160degF or less--on co=
ol days, 180degF on 'typical' days (72degF), and both will get hot (over 20=
0) sitting in traffic on typical or hotter days or pulling up a long grade.
>=20
> FWIW
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> Bob
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> On 1/14/2020 9:58 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
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> > > "Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator =
not have this problem, who knows?"
> >=20
> > Bob that has perplexed me for decades but certainly seems to be=
reality.
> > Good luck with your modifications ... I have always found tha=
t additional tubes in the radiator make a huge difference.=20
> >=20
> > M
> >=20
> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 12:27 PM Robert Begani, < rfbegani@gmail.=
com mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com > wrote:
> >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a =
cool winter day is today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and=
rising to a high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph. Great for a day s=
ail on the Harbor which I will do in the next hour. However, it does make =
driving a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock ra=
diator to handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperatu=
re does not go down only up. So the next step is to re-core the radiator. =
The local radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new cor=
e using the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity. =
This is a SKI purchase. Spend the Kids Inheritance. Then I will think abo=
ut wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > What do you think about Push and Pull? Take off the engi=
ne fan?
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oi=
l bathed, everything in the engine during his machining of the engine to br=
ing it up to specifications. He knows what to do. The only modification i=
s the 20 over pistons.=20
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not h=
ave this problem, who knows?
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > Bob
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > From: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com mailto:healeyguy@aol.com >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
> > > To: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com mailto:rfbegani@gma=
il.com >
> > > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional=
core tubes to theexisting radiator
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > Bob
> > >=20
> > > With the extras that you have added to facilitate the air=
flow the car should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radi=
ator. There is something else amiss in the equation.
> > >=20
> > > Perry
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D=
550986 for Windows 10
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > From: Robert Begani mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
> > > To: 'Perry' mailto:healeyguy@aol.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional=
core tubes to theexisting radiator
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > Hi Perry:
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan =
offered by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the radiator. As a pusher=
it really pushes air through the engine compartment at low speeds and stan=
ding still. I still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine. As I=
was searching overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not re=
commended as they act against each other.
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > Bob
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > > If you have a 180 degree T,stat & your engine is running 160 =
degrees on a cool day your T'stat must be broken!
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> Gary Hodson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 1:41 pm
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes =
to theexisting radiator
>=20
> I have a BJ8 with:
>=20
> - OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
> - Texas Cooler fan
> - recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K miles--hot-tanked, properly=
tuned, etc.--and Robertshaw sleeved 180degF thermostat
> - Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold
>=20
> ... and a BN2/100M with:
>=20
> - OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
> - OEM art deco fan
> - rebuilt engine with a couple thousand miles at most--still working =
on 'perfect' mixture--and garden-variety Stant 180degF thermostat
> - manifold with high-temp 'authentic color' paint only
>=20
> Both behave identically, i.e. will run 'cool'--160degF or less--on co=
ol days, 180degF on 'typical' days (72degF), and both will get hot (over 20=
0) sitting in traffic on typical or hotter days or pulling up a long grade.
>=20
> FWIW
>=20
> Bob
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> Nope. Have confirmed thermostat's function, tried several and others=
report their cars do the same. No one knows why.
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> On 1/14/2020 1:28 PM, warthodson@aol.com mailto:warthodson@aol.com wr=
ote:
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> > > If you have a 180 degree T,stat & your engine is runn=
ing 160 degrees on a cool day your T'stat must be broken!
> >=20
> > Gary Hodson
> >=20
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> mailto:bspidell@comcas=
t.net
> > To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net
> > Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 1:41 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core =
tubes to theexisting radiator
> >=20
> > I have a BJ8 with:
> >=20
> > - OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
> > - Texas Cooler fan
> > - recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K miles--hot-tanked, pr=
operly tuned, etc.--and Robertshaw sleeved 180degF thermostat
> > - Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold
> >=20
> > ... and a BN2/100M with:
> >=20
> > - OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
> > - OEM art deco fan
> > - rebuilt engine with a couple thousand miles at most--still wo=
rking on 'perfect' mixture--and garden-variety Stant 180degF thermostat
> > - manifold with high-temp 'authentic color' paint only
> >=20
> > Both behave identically, i.e. will run 'cool'--160degF or less-=
-on cool days, 180degF on 'typical' days (72degF), and both will get hot (o=
ver 200) sitting in traffic on typical or hotter days or pulling up a long =
grade.
> >=20
> > FWIW
> >=20
> > Bob
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > >=20
> Thanks Bob, I am working my way through the program. The engine was =
just rebuilt with only 100 miles on it by a well know machine shop and boil=
ed cleaned etc. can only hope they did the right job.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Have a original Texas cooler and the Shovel to direct the air through=
to the radiator which had a high cfm pusher fan. I have installed the tun=
nel which is wrapped in aluminum and some rubber insulation inside and out.=
It weighs a ton and does not get hot. However, the gear shifter porthole =
does not have the rubber seal so the air coming out of it is tremendous at =
2000-3000 rpm, so the shovel really works. But, still the temperature rise=
s
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> Within 2 weeks the original radiator will be re-cored. I am hoping th=
at this will greatly reduce the coolant temperature to the level you descri=
be.
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> =20
>=20
> Meanwhile, I have a good list of items to consider adjusting. Will k=
eep you all informed of the progress.
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> =20
>=20
> Bob Begani
>=20
> 67 BJ8
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spide=
ll
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 2:41 PM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes =
to theexisting radiator
>=20
> =20
>=20
> I have a BJ8 with:
>=20
> - OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
> - Texas Cooler fan
> - recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K miles--hot-tanked, properly=
tuned, etc.--and Robertshaw sleeved 180degF thermostat
> - Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold
>=20
> ... and a BN2/100M with:
>=20
> - OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core
> - OEM art deco fan
> - rebuilt engine with a couple thousand miles at most--still working =
on 'perfect' mixture--and garden-variety Stant 180degF thermostat
> - manifold with high-temp 'authentic color' paint only
>=20
> Both behave identically, i.e. will run 'cool'--160degF or less--on co=
ol days, 180degF on 'typical' days (72degF), and both will get hot (over 20=
0) sitting in traffic on typical or hotter days or pulling up a long grade.
>=20
> FWIW
>=20
> Bob
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Robert--
>=20
> I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust syste=
m with lagging as it will cause its early demise due to rust. =20
> I was told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are =
still intact. =20
>=20
> Best--Michael Oritt
>=20
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys < healeys@a=
utox.team.net mailto:healeys@autox.team.net > wrote:
>=20
> > > I am jumping in on this subject a bit late, so I do n=
ot know if Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve for the b=
ypass or not. Either that type of thermostat or a fixed blanking sleeve for=
the bypass would be essential for this climate. Or any climate for that ma=
tter. =20
> >=20
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Begani < rfbegani@gmail.com mailto:rfbegani@gmail.=
com >
> > To: 'Perry' < healeyguy@aol.com mailto:healeyguy@aol.com >
> > Cc: healeys < healeys@autox.team.net mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net >
> > Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am
> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core =
tubes to theexisting radiator
> >=20
> > I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool w=
inter day is today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and risin=
g to a high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph. Great for a day sail on=
the Harbor which I will do in the next hour. However, it does make drivin=
g a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator=
to handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature doe=
s not go down only up. So the next step is to re-core the radiator. The l=
ocal radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new core usin=
g the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity. This i=
s a SKI purchase. Spend the Kids Inheritance. Then I will think about wra=
pping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.
> > =20
> > What do you think about Push and Pull? Take off the engine fan=
?
> > =20
> > By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bath=
ed, everything in the engine during his machining of the engine to bring it=
up to specifications. He knows what to do. The only modification is the =
20 over pistons.=20
> > =20
> > Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have th=
is problem, who knows?
> > =20
> > Bob
> > =20
> > From: Perry < healeyguy@aol.com mailto:healeyguy@aol.com >
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
> > To: Robert Begani < rfbegani@gmail.com mailto:rfbegani@gmail.co=
m >
> > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core =
tubes to theexisting radiator
> > =20
> > Bob
> > With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow t=
he car should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. =
There is something else amiss in the equation.
> > Perry
> > =20
> > Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986=
for Windows 10
> > =20
> > From: Robert Begani mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
> > To: 'Perry' mailto:healeyguy@aol.com
> > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core =
tubes to theexisting radiator
> > =20
> > Hi Perry:
> > =20
> > I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offere=
d by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the radiator. As a pusher it re=
ally pushes air through the engine compartment at low speeds and standing s=
till. I still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine. As I was s=
earching overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not recommen=
ded as they act against each other.
> > =20
> > Bob
> > =20
> > _______________________________________________
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> > > Just a thought ...
> Our cars all run hotter when idling and consequent reduced airflow.
> However both fan airflow and water flow are proportional to speed.
> So at 750 RPM idle compared to say 1500 RPM the air flow (engine driv=
en fan) and coolant flow is reduced by a factor of 2.
> So increasing just the airfow with constant speed E fans has somewhat=
limited effect.
> It had minor improvement for me in traffic.
> I then installed an electric water pump to compensate for the reduced=
coolant flow at idling.
> Works really well in conjuction with an E fan
> The E pump is almost invisible in the engine compartment - you have t=
o really look for it. It is installed in line in the bottom hose.
> Both are controlled from a single switch under the dash - via a relay=
. BTW I have a natural dislike for thermostats but that would work too.
> So whenever the engine is really up to temp (sustained run) and am ap=
proaching traffic I switch them both on.
> Works fine and relaible so far - but now do keep a spare bottom hose =
in my trunk.
> rg
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
> To: warthodson@aol.com
> Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:04:11 -0700 (MST)
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes =
to theexisting radiator
>=20
> Robert--
>=20
> I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust syste=
m with lagging as it will cause its early demise due to rust. =20
> I was told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are =
still intact. =20
>=20
> Best--Michael Oritt
>=20
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys < healeys@a=
utox.team.net mailto:healeys@autox.team.net > wrote:
>=20
> > > I am jumping in on this subject a bit late, so I do n=
ot know if Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve for the b=
ypass or not. Either that type of thermostat or a fixed blanking sleeve for=
the bypass would be essential for this climate. Or any climate for that ma=
tter. =20
> >=20
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> >=20
> > From: Robert Begani < rfbegani@gmail.com mailto:rfbegani@gmail.=
com >
> >=20
> > To: 'Perry' < healeyguy@aol.com mailto:healeyguy@aol.com >
> >=20
> > Cc: healeys < healeys@autox.team.net mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net >
> >=20
> > Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am
> >=20
> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core =
tubes to theexisting radiator
> >=20
> > I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool w=
inter day is today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and risin=
g to a high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph. Great for a day sail on=
the Harbor which I will do in the next hour. However, it does make drivin=
g a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator=
to handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature doe=
s not go down only up. So the next step is to re-core the radiator. The l=
ocal radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new core usin=
g the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity. This i=
s a SKI purchase. Spend the Kids Inheritance. Then I will think about wra=
pping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.
> > =20
> > What do you think about Push and Pull? Take off the engine fan=
?
> > =20
> > By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bath=
ed, everything in the engine during his machining of the engine to bring it=
up to specifications. He knows what to do. The only modification is the =
20 over pistons.=20
> > =20
> > Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have th=
is problem, who knows?
> > =20
> > Bob
> > =20
> > From: Perry < healeyguy@aol.com mailto:healeyguy@aol.com >
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
> > To: Robert Begani < rfbegani@gmail.com mailto:rfbegani@gmail.co=
m >
> > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core =
tubes to theexisting radiator
> > =20
> > Bob
> > With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow t=
he car should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. =
There is something else amiss in the equation.
> > Perry
> > =20
> > Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986=
for Windows 10
> > =20
> > From: Robert Begani mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
> > To: 'Perry' mailto:healeyguy@aol.com
> > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core =
tubes to theexisting radiator
> > =20
> > Hi Perry:
> > =20
> > I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offere=
d by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the radiator. As a pusher it re=
ally pushes air through the engine compartment at low speeds and standing s=
till. I still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine. As I was s=
earching overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not recommen=
ded as they act against each other.
> > =20
> > Bob
> > =20
> >=20
> >=20
> > _______________________________________________
> >=20
> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> > Suggested annual donation $12.75
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> > >=20
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> =20
> Same.=20
> Wrapped my steel headers in 1995.=20
> No issues to date with them.=20
> Replaced mufflers twice, but that's a road abrasion issue due to my l=
ack of ground clearance...
> Best
> Chris
>=20
>=20
> On 15 Jan 2020, at 10:04 am, Michael Oritt < michael.oritt@gmail.com =
mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com > wrote:
>=20
>=20
> > > Robert--
> >=20
> > I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust=
system with lagging as it will cause its early demise due to rust. =20
> > I was told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my steel header=
s are still intact. =20
> >=20
> > Best--Michael Oritt
> >=20
> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys < hea=
leys@autox.team.net mailto:healeys@autox.team.net > wrote:
> >=20
> > > > > I am jumping in on this subject a bit lat=
e, so I do not know if Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a moving slee=
ve for the bypass or not. Either that type of thermostat or a fixed blankin=
g sleeve for the bypass would be essential for this climate. Or any climate=
for that matter. =20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robert Begani < rfbegani@gmail.com mailto:rfbegani@=
gmail.com >
> > > To: 'Perry' < healeyguy@aol.com mailto:healeyguy@aol.com =
>
> > > Cc: healeys < healeys@autox.team.net mailto:healeys@autox=
.team.net >
> > > Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am
> > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional=
core tubes to theexisting radiator
> > >=20
> > > I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a =
cool winter day is today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and=
rising to a high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph. Great for a day s=
ail on the Harbor which I will do in the next hour. However, it does make =
driving a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock ra=
diator to handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperatu=
re does not go down only up. So the next step is to re-core the radiator. =
The local radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new cor=
e using the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity. =
This is a SKI purchase. Spend the Kids Inheritance. Then I will think abo=
ut wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.
> > > =20
> > > What do you think about Push and Pull? Take off the engi=
ne fan?
> > > =20
> > > By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oi=
l bathed, everything in the engine during his machining of the engine to br=
ing it up to specifications. He knows what to do. The only modification i=
s the 20 over pistons.=20
> > > =20
> > > Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not h=
ave this problem, who knows?
> > > =20
> > > Bob
> > > =20
> > > From: Perry < healeyguy@aol.com mailto:healeyguy@aol.com =
>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
> > > To: Robert Begani < rfbegani@gmail.com mailto:rfbegani@gm=
ail.com >
> > > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional=
core tubes to theexisting radiator
> > > =20
> > > Bob
> > > With the extras that you have added to facilitate the air=
flow the car should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radi=
ator. There is something else amiss in the equation.
> > > Perry
> > > =20
> > > Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D=
550986 for Windows 10
> > > =20
> > > From: Robert Begani mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
> > > To: 'Perry' mailto:healeyguy@aol.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional=
core tubes to theexisting radiator
> > > =20
> > > Hi Perry:
> > > =20
> > > I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan =
offered by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the radiator. As a pusher=
it really pushes air through the engine compartment at low speeds and stan=
ding still. I still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine. As I=
was searching overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not re=
commended as they act against each other.
> > > =20
> > > Bob
> > > =20
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Suggested annual donation $12.75
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.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive
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ox.team.net/archive
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> Roger
>=20
> The constant flow of water (coolant, regardless of engine RPM, to max=
imize the cooling ability, is an interesting thought. My thermodynamics cl=
asses were long ago and I really wasn=E2=80=99t paying attention. Okay may=
be a little but not much.
>=20
> I sent the info below to Bob earlier and did not copy the list. Its =
about a issue (bold stuff below) that I have found several times when clean=
ing a six cylinder block during a rebuild.
>=20
> Perry
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =E2=80=9CBob
>=20
> With 37 years living in Hawaii I understand the impact of tropical we=
ather. I used to dread when asked to participate in a parade with the stock=
100. With no fan shroud the 4 blade stock fan only moved about 1000 CFM an=
d that was not at idle. The car at even 30MPH has plenty of air flow throug=
h the rad. A pusher fan actually has the possibility of blocking air flow a=
t speed. Ignition timing has an impact on the running temp but is not the =
game changer. Carb mixture settings (to lean) will push the temps up. That =
said the six cylinder cars seem to have less overheating issues then the 10=
0=E2=80=99s.
>=20
> On at least 6 3000 engines I have found extreme buildup of debris ins=
ide the water passages at the lower areas adjacent to the cylinders. Less o=
n cylinders 1 and 6. Block paint was discolored on a couple of them in that=
area. Boiling the block did not remove the crud. I used a piece of speedo=
cable in a drill motor to brake up the corrosion and air and vacuum to get=
it out of the blocks. Of course it required a stripped block with freeze p=
lugs removed.
>=20
> Ok Bob, while I=E2=80=99m putting this email together I see that a b=
unch of folks jumped in. Looks like similar thoughts.
>=20
> P
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986 for W=
indows 10
>=20
> =20
>=20
> From: Roger Grace mailto:roggrace@telus.net
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 6:53 PM
> To: Michael Oritt mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com
> Cc: Austin Healey mailto:healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes =
totheexisting radiator
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Just a thought ...
>=20
> Our cars all run hotter when idling and consequent reduced airflow.
>=20
> However both fan airflow and water flow are proportional to speed.
>=20
> So at 750 RPM idle compared to say 1500 RPM the air flow (engine driv=
en fan) and coolant flow is reduced by a factor of 2.
>=20
> So increasing just the airfow with constant speed E fans has somewhat=
limited effect.
>=20
> It had minor improvement for me in traffic.
>=20
> I then installed an electric water pump to compensate for the reduced=
coolant flow at idling.
>=20
> Works really well in conjuction with an E fan
>=20
> The E pump is almost invisible in the engine compartment - you have t=
o really look for it. It is installed in line in the bottom hose.
>=20
> Both are controlled from a single switch under the dash - via a relay=
. BTW I have a natural dislike for thermostats but that would work too.
>=20
> So whenever the engine is really up to temp (sustained run) and am ap=
proaching traffic I switch them both on.
>=20
> Works fine and relaible so far - but now do keep a spare bottom hose =
in my trunk.
>=20
> rg
>=20
> =20
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
> To: warthodson@aol.com
> Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:04:11 -0700 (MST)
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes =
to theexisting radiator
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Robert--
>=20
> =20
>=20
> I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust syste=
m with lagging as it will cause its early demise due to rust. =20
>=20
> I was told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are =
still intact. =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Best--Michael Oritt
>=20
> =20
>=20
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@au=
tox.team.net mailto:healeys@autox.team.net > wrote:
>=20
> > >=20
> > I am jumping in on this subject a bit late, so I do not know if=
Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve for the bypass or n=
ot. Either that type of thermostat or a fixed blanking sleeve for the bypas=
s would be essential for this climate. Or any climate for that matter. =20
> >=20
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> >=20
> > From: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com mailto:rfbegani@gmail.c=
om >
> >=20
> > To: 'Perry' <healeyguy@aol.com mailto:healeyguy@aol.com >
> >=20
> > Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net mailto:healeys@autox.team.n=
et >
> >=20
> > Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am
> >=20
> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core =
tubes to theexisting radiator
> >=20
> > I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool w=
inter day is today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and risin=
g to a high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph. Great for a day sail on=
the Harbor which I will do in the next hour. However, it does make drivin=
g a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator=
to handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature doe=
s not go down only up. So the next step is to re-core the radiator. The l=
ocal radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new core usin=
g the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity. This i=
s a SKI purchase. Spend the Kids Inheritance. Then I will think about wra=
pping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > What do you think about Push and Pull? Take off the engine fan=
?
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bath=
ed, everything in the engine during his machining of the engine to bring it=
up to specifications. He knows what to do. The only modification is the =
20 over pistons.=20
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have th=
is problem, who knows?
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Bob
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > From: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com mailto:healeyguy@aol.com >
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
> > To: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com=
>
> > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core =
tubes to theexisting radiator
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Bob
> >=20
> > With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow t=
he car should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. =
There is something else amiss in the equation.
> >=20
> > Perry
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986=
for Windows 10
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > From: Robert Begani mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
> > To: 'Perry' mailto:healeyguy@aol.com
> > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core =
tubes to theexisting radiator
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Hi Perry:
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offere=
d by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the radiator. As a pusher it re=
ally pushes air through the engine compartment at low speeds and standing s=
till. I still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine. As I was s=
earching overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not recommen=
ded as they act against each other.
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Bob
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > _______________________________________________
> >=20
> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >=20
> > Suggested annual donation $12.75
> >=20
> >=20
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://www.team.=
net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive
> >=20
> > Healeys@autox.team.net mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> >=20
> >=20
> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/heale=
ys/warthodson@aol.com
> >=20
> >=20
> > _______________________________________________
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >=20
> > =20
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> > Suggested annual donation $12.75
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> > =20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team=
.net/archive
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Healeys@autox.team.net mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/heale=
ys/michael.oritt@gmail.com
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > >=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Roger
>=20
> The constant flow of water (coolant, regardless of engine RPM, to max=
imize the cooling ability, is an interesting thought. My thermodynamics cl=
asses were long ago and I really wasn=E2=80=99t paying attention. Okay may=
be a little but not much.
>=20
> I sent the info below to Bob earlier and did not copy the list. Its =
about a issue (bold stuff below) that I have found several times when clean=
ing a six cylinder block during a rebuild.
>=20
> Perry
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =E2=80=9CBob
>=20
> With 37 years living in Hawaii I understand the impact of tropical we=
ather. I used to dread when asked to participate in a parade with the stock=
100. With no fan shroud the 4 blade stock fan only moved about 1000 CFM an=
d that was not at idle. The car at even 30MPH has plenty of air flow throug=
h the rad. A pusher fan actually has the possibility of blocking air flow a=
t speed. Ignition timing has an impact on the running temp but is not the =
game changer. Carb mixture settings (to lean) will push the temps up. That =
said the six cylinder cars seem to have less overheating issues then the 10=
0=E2=80=99s.
>=20
> On at least 6 3000 engines I have found extreme buildup of debris ins=
ide the water passages at the lower areas adjacent to the cylinders. Less o=
n cylinders 1 and 6. Block paint was discolored on a couple of them in that=
area. Boiling the block did not remove the crud. I used a piece of speedo=
cable in a drill motor to brake up the corrosion and air and vacuum to get=
it out of the blocks. Of course it required a stripped block with freeze p=
lugs removed.
>=20
> Ok Bob, while I=E2=80=99m putting this email together I see that a b=
unch of folks jumped in. Looks like similar thoughts.
>=20
> P
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986 for W=
indows 10
>=20
> =20
>=20
> From: Roger Grace mailto:roggrace@telus.net
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 6:53 PM
> To: Michael Oritt mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com
> Cc: Austin Healey mailto:healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes =
totheexisting radiator
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Just a thought ...
>=20
> Our cars all run hotter when idling and consequent reduced airflow.
>=20
> However both fan airflow and water flow are proportional to speed.
>=20
> So at 750 RPM idle compared to say 1500 RPM the air flow (engine driv=
en fan) and coolant flow is reduced by a factor of 2.
>=20
> So increasing just the airfow with constant speed E fans has somewhat=
limited effect.
>=20
> It had minor improvement for me in traffic.
>=20
> I then installed an electric water pump to compensate for the reduced=
coolant flow at idling.
>=20
> Works really well in conjuction with an E fan
>=20
> The E pump is almost invisible in the engine compartment - you have t=
o really look for it. It is installed in line in the bottom hose.
>=20
> Both are controlled from a single switch under the dash - via a relay=
. BTW I have a natural dislike for thermostats but that would work too.
>=20
> So whenever the engine is really up to temp (sustained run) and am ap=
proaching traffic I switch them both on.
>=20
> Works fine and relaible so far - but now do keep a spare bottom hose =
in my trunk.
>=20
> rg
>=20
> =20
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
> To: warthodson@aol.com
> Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:04:11 -0700 (MST)
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes =
to theexisting radiator
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Robert--
>=20
> =20
>=20
> I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust syste=
m with lagging as it will cause its early demise due to rust. =20
>=20
> I was told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are =
still intact. =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Best--Michael Oritt
>=20
> =20
>=20
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@au=
tox.team.net mailto:healeys@autox.team.net > wrote:
>=20
> > >=20
> > I am jumping in on this subject a bit late, so I do not know if=
Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve for the bypass or n=
ot. Either that type of thermostat or a fixed blanking sleeve for the bypas=
s would be essential for this climate. Or any climate for that matter. =20
> >=20
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> >=20
> > From: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com mailto:rfbegani@gmail.c=
om >
> >=20
> > To: 'Perry' <healeyguy@aol.com mailto:healeyguy@aol.com >
> >=20
> > Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net mailto:healeys@autox.team.n=
et >
> >=20
> > Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am
> >=20
> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core =
tubes to theexisting radiator
> >=20
> > I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool w=
inter day is today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and risin=
g to a high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph. Great for a day sail on=
the Harbor which I will do in the next hour. However, it does make drivin=
g a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator=
to handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature doe=
s not go down only up. So the next step is to re-core the radiator. The l=
ocal radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new core usin=
g the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity. This i=
s a SKI purchase. Spend the Kids Inheritance. Then I will think about wra=
pping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > What do you think about Push and Pull? Take off the engine fan=
?
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bath=
ed, everything in the engine during his machining of the engine to bring it=
up to specifications. He knows what to do. The only modification is the =
20 over pistons.=20
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have th=
is problem, who knows?
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Bob
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > From: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com mailto:healeyguy@aol.com >
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
> > To: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com=
>
> > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core =
tubes to theexisting radiator
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Bob
> >=20
> > With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow t=
he car should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. =
There is something else amiss in the equation.
> >=20
> > Perry
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986=
for Windows 10
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > From: Robert Begani mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
> > To: 'Perry' mailto:healeyguy@aol.com
> > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core =
tubes to theexisting radiator
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Hi Perry:
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offere=
d by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the radiator. As a pusher it re=
ally pushes air through the engine compartment at low speeds and standing s=
till. I still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine. As I was s=
earching overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not recommen=
ded as they act against each other.
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Bob
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > _______________________________________________
> >=20
> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >=20
> > Suggested annual donation $12.75
> >=20
> >=20
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://www.team.=
net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive
> >=20
> > Healeys@autox.team.net mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> >=20
> >=20
> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/heale=
ys/warthodson@aol.com
> >=20
> >=20
> > _______________________________________________
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >=20
> > =20
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> > Suggested annual donation $12.75
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> >=20
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> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team=
.net/archive
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Healeys@autox.team.net mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/heale=
ys/michael.oritt@gmail.com
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > >=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Is SU making fuel pumps for Toyota?
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> https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/14/business/toyota-fuel-pump-recall-trnd/=
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Agree with Allen on WIzard and have a 160 thermo with electric fan in fr=
ont of rad. temp runs about 175 and stalled in traffic about 195.&nbs=
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<br> 1. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to=20
<br> theexisting radiator (Bob Spidell)=20
<br> 2. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to=20
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<br> theexisting radiator (Robert Begani)=20
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<br> theexisting radiator (Michael Oritt)=20
<br> 6. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to=20
<br> theexisting radiator (Roger Grace)=20
<br> 7. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes to=20
<br> theexisting radiator (Chris Dimmock)=20
<br> 8. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes=20
<br> totheexisting radiator (Perry)=20
<br> 9. Re: Over heating and adding additional core tubes=20
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I have a BJ8 with:=20
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<br> - Texas Cooler fan=20
<br> - recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K miles--hot-tanked, p=
roperly tuned, etc.--and Robertshaw sleeved 180degF thermostat=20
<br> - Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold=20
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<br> ... and a BN2/100M with:=20
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<br> - OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core=20
<br> - OEM art deco fan=20
<br> - rebuilt engine with a couple thousand miles at most--still w=
orking on 'perfect' mixture--and garden-variety Stant 180degF thermostat=20
<br> - manifold with high-temp 'authentic color' paint only=20
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<br> Both behave identically, i.e. will run 'cool'--160degF or less=
--on cool days, 180degF on 'typical' days (72degF), and both will get hot (=
over 200) sitting in traffic on typical or hotter days or pulling up a long=
grade.=20
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On 1/14/2020 9:58 AM, Michael Salter wrote:=20
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<span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: arial, sans-serif; fo=
nt-size: 16px;">"Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not ha=
ve this problem, who knows?"</span>
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<span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: arial, sans-serif; f=
ont-size: 16px;"><br> </span>
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<span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: arial, sans-serif; f=
ont-size: 16px;">Bob that has perplexed me for decades but certainly s=
eems to be reality.</span>
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<span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: arial, sans-serif; f=
ont-size: 16px;">Good luck with your modifications ... I have a=
lways found that additional tubes in the radiator make a huge difference.&n=
bsp;</span>
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On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 12:27 PM Robert Begani, <=20
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; rel=3D"n=
oopener">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:=20
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WordSection1">
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">I agree wi=
th you, however, this is south Florida where a cool winter day is today, wh=
ere the temperature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a high of 83 degr=
ees with a se wind at 7 mph. Great for a day sail on the Harbor which=
I will do in the next hour. However, it does make driving a hot car =
fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator to handle h=
ot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature does not go dow=
n only up. So the next step is to re-core the radiator. The loc=
al radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new core using =
the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity. Thi=
s is a SKI purchase. Spend the Kids Inheritance. Then I will th=
ink about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.</s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"> </sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">What do yo=
u think about Push and Pull? Take off the engine fan?</span></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"> </sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">By the way=
, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bathed, everything in the =
engine during his machining of the engine to bring it up to specifications.=
He knows what to do. The only modification is the 20 over pist=
ons. </span></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"> </sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Why do oth=
er Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this problem, who knows?=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"> </sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Bob </span=
></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"> </sp=
an></p>
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padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><strong>Fr=
om:</strong> Perry <<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.co=
m" rel=3D"noopener">healeyguy@aol.com</a>> <br> <strong>Sent:</strong> T=
uesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM<br> <strong>To:</strong> Robert Begani &l=
t;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noopener">=
rfbegani@gmail.com</a>><br> <strong>Subject:</strong> RE: [Healeys] Over=
heating and adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator</p>
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<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Bob</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">With the ext=
ras that you have added to facilitate the airflow the car should be running=
much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There is something else =
amiss in the equation.</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Perry</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Sent from <a=
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986=
" rel=3D"noopener">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; p=
adding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><strong>Fro=
m: </strong><a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; rel=3D"=
noopener">Robert Begani</a><br> <strong>Sent: </strong>Tuesday, January 14,=
2020 11:23 AM<br> <strong>To: </strong><a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto=
:healeyguy@aol.com" rel=3D"noopener">'Perry'</a><br> <strong>Subject: </str=
ong>RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to theexist=
ing radiator</p>
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<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Hi Perry:<=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"> </sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">I do not r=
emember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss with the lar=
gest diameter to fit the radiator. As a pusher it really pushes air t=
hrough the engine compartment at low speeds and standing still. I still hav=
e an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine. As I was searching ove=
rheating problems, one reference indicated that is not recommended as they =
act against each other.</span></p>
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=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"> </sp=
an></p>
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=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Bob</span>=
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If you have a 180 degree T,stat & your engine is running 160 de=
grees on a cool day your T'stat must be broken!
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r: black;">
-----Original Message-----=20
<br> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>=20
<br> To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>=20
<br> Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 1:41 pm=20
<br> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional co=
re tubes to theexisting radiator=20
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I have a BJ8 with:=20
<br clear=3D"none">=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - Texas Cooler fan=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K m=
iles--hot-tanked, properly tuned, etc.--and Robertshaw sleeved 180degF ther=
mostat=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold=20
<br clear=3D"none">=20
<br clear=3D"none"> ... and a BN2/100M with:=20
<br clear=3D"none">=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - OEM art deco fan=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - rebuilt engine with a couple thousand mil=
es at most--still working on 'perfect' mixture--and garden-variety Stant 18=
0degF thermostat=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - manifold with high-temp 'authentic color'=
paint only=20
<br clear=3D"none">=20
<br clear=3D"none"> Both behave identically, i.e. will run 'coo=
l'--160degF or less--on cool days, 180degF on 'typical' days (72degF), and =
both will get hot (over 200) sitting in traffic on typical or hotter days o=
r pulling up a long grade.=20
<br clear=3D"none">=20
<br clear=3D"none"> FWIW=20
<br clear=3D"none">=20
<br clear=3D"none"> Bob=20
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<br clear=3D"none">=20
<br clear=3D"none">=20
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Nope. Have confirmed thermostat's function, tried several and=
others report their cars do the same. No one knows why.=20
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On 1/14/2020 1:28 PM,=20
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com"; class=3D"o=
x-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818moz-txt-link-abbreviated" rel=3D"noopener">wartho=
dson@aol.com</a> wrote:=20
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<div style=3D"color: black; font: 10pt arial;">
If you have a 180 degree T,stat & your engine is running 160 =
degrees on a cool day your T'stat must be broken!
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Gary Hodson=20
<br>=20
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lor: black;">
-----Original Message-----=20
<br> From: Bob Spidell=20
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; class=
=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel=3D"noopener"><=
bspidell@comcast.net></a>=20
<br> To: healeys=20
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; cla=
ss=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel=3D"noopener">&l=
t;healeys@autox.team.net></a>=20
<br> Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 1:41 pm=20
<br> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional =
core tubes to theexisting radiator=20
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I have a BJ8 with:=20
<br clear=3D"none">=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - Texas Cooler fan=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K=
miles--hot-tanked, properly tuned, etc.--and Robertshaw sleeved 180degF th=
ermostat=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold=20
<br clear=3D"none">=20
<br clear=3D"none"> ... and a BN2/100M with:=20
<br clear=3D"none">=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - OEM art deco fan=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - rebuilt engine with a couple thousand m=
iles at most--still working on 'perfect' mixture--and garden-variety Stant =
180degF thermostat=20
<br clear=3D"none"> - manifold with high-temp 'authentic colo=
r' paint only=20
<br clear=3D"none">=20
<br clear=3D"none"> Both behave identically, i.e. will run 'c=
ool'--160degF or less--on cool days, 180degF on 'typical' days (72degF), an=
d both will get hot (over 200) sitting in traffic on typical or hotter days=
or pulling up a long grade.=20
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<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Thanks=
Bob, I am working my way through the program. The engine was just re=
built with only 100 miles on it by a well know machine shop and boiled clea=
ned etc. can only hope they did the right job.</span></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">  =
;</span></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Have a=
original Texas cooler and the Shovel to direct the air through to the radi=
ator which had a high cfm pusher fan. I have installed the tunnel whi=
ch is wrapped in aluminum and some rubber insulation inside and out. It wei=
ghs a ton and does not get hot. However, the gear shifter porthole do=
es not have the rubber seal so the air coming out of it is tremendous at 20=
00-3000 rpm, so the shovel really works. But, still the temperature r=
ises</span></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Within=
2 weeks the original radiator will be re-cored. I am hoping that this will=
greatly reduce the coolant temperature to the level you describe.</span></=
p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">  =
;</span></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Meanwh=
ile, I have a good list of items to consider adjusting. Will keep you=
all informed of the progress.</span></p>
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ont-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">  =
;</span></p>
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ont-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Bob Be=
gani</span></p>
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ont-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">67 &nb=
sp;BJ8</span></p>
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ont-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">  =
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/strong> Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <strong>On Behalf O=
f </strong>Bob Spidell<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, January 14, 2020 =
2:41 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> healeys@autox.team.net<br><strong>Subject:<=
/strong> Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator</p>
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<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073=
365818MsoNormal">I have a BJ8 with:<br><br>- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel=
' core<br>- Texas Cooler fan<br>- recently rebuilt engine with approx. 6K m=
iles--hot-tanked, properly tuned, etc.--and Robertshaw sleeved 180degF ther=
mostat<br>- Jet-Hot coated exhaust manifold<br><br>... and a BN2/100M with:=
<br><br>- OEM radiator with 4-row 'Excel' core<br>- OEM art deco fan<br>- r=
ebuilt engine with a couple thousand miles at most--still working on 'perfe=
ct' mixture--and garden-variety Stant 180degF thermostat<br>- manifold with=
high-temp 'authentic color' paint only<br><br>Both behave identically, i.e=
. will run 'cool'--160degF or less--on cool days, 180degF on 'typical' days=
(72degF), and both will get hot (over 200) sitting in traffic on typical o=
r hotter days or pulling up a long grade.<br><br>FWIW<br><br>Bob</p>
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Robert--
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gmail_default">
I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust sy=
stem with lagging as it will cause its early demise due to rust. =
</div>
<div style=3D"color: #3333ff;" class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818=
gmail_default">
I was told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my steel head=
ers are still intact. =20
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gmail_default">
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gmail_default">
Best--Michael Oritt
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On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <=20
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D=
"noopener">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:=20
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I am jumping in on this subject a bit late, so I do not know =
if Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve for the bypass or=
not. Either that type of thermostat or a fixed blanking sleeve for the byp=
ass would be essential for this climate. Or any climate for that matter.&nb=
sp; =20
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-----Original Message-----=20
<br clear=3D"none"> From: Robert Begani <=20
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; rel=
=3D"noopener">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>>=20
<br clear=3D"none"> To: 'Perry' <=20
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; rel=
=3D"noopener">healeyguy@aol.com</a>>=20
<br clear=3D"none"> Cc: healeys <=20
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
rel=3D"noopener">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>=20
<br clear=3D"none"> Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am=20
<br clear=3D"none"> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and =
adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator=20
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">I agree with you, howe=
ver, this is south Florida where a cool winter day is today, where the temp=
erature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a high of 83 degrees with a s=
e wind at 7 mph. Great for a day sail on the Harbor which I will do i=
n the next hour. However, it does make driving a hot car fun. There i=
s not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator to handle hot climates =
and have to stop and go because the temperature does not go down only up.&n=
bsp; So the next step is to re-core the radiator. The local radiator =
guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new core using the old tank=
s which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity. This is a SKI p=
urchase. Spend the Kids Inheritance. Then I will think about wr=
apping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">What do you think abou=
t Push and Pull? Take off the engine fan?</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">By the way, I know the=
engine machine shop boiled out, oil bathed, everything in the engine durin=
g his machining of the engine to bring it up to specifications. He kn=
ows what to do. The only modification is the 20 over pistons. <=
/span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Why do other Healey=E2=
=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this problem, who knows?</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Bob </span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
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<strong>From:</strong> Perry <=20
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com=
" rel=3D"noopener">healeyguy@aol.com</a>>=20
<br clear=3D"none">=20
<strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:4=
7 AM=20
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<strong>To:</strong> Robert Begani <=20
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.co=
m" rel=3D"noopener">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>>=20
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<strong>Subject:</strong> RE: [Healeys] Over heating =
and adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator
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Bob
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With the extras that you have added to facilitate the a=
irflow the car should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock ra=
diator. There is something else amiss in the equation.
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Perry
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Sent from=20
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wlink/?LinkId=3D550986" rel=3D"noopener">Mail</a> for Windows 10
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<strong>From: </strong>=20
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" rel=3D"noopener">Robert Begani</a>=20
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<strong>Sent: </strong>Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23=
AM=20
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rel=3D"noopener">'Perry'</a>=20
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<strong>Subject: </strong>RE: [Healeys] Over heating a=
nd adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Hi Perry:</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">I do not remember the =
CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss with the largest diamete=
r to fit the radiator. As a pusher it really pushes air through the e=
ngine compartment at low speeds and standing still. I still have an origina=
l Texas 6 blade fan on the engine. As I was searching overheating pro=
blems, one reference indicated that is not recommended as they act against =
each other.</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Bob</span>
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Just a thought ...=20
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Our cars all run hotter when idling and consequent reduced airflow=
.=20
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However both fan airflow and water flow are proportional to speed.=
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So at 750 RPM idle compared to say 1500 RPM the air flow (engine d=
riven fan) and coolant flow is reduced by a factor of 2.=20
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So increasing just the airfow with constant speed E fans has somew=
hat limited effect.=20
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It had minor improvement for me in traffic.=20
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I then installed an electric water pump to compensate for the redu=
ced coolant flow at idling.=20
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Works really well in conjuction with an E fan=20
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The E pump is almost invisible in the engine compartment - you hav=
e to really look for it. It is installed in line in the bottom hose.=20
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Both are controlled from a single switch under the dash - via a re=
lay. BTW I have a natural dislike for thermostats but that would work too.=
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So whenever the engine is really up to temp (sustained run) and am=
approaching traffic I switch them both on.=20
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Works fine and relaible so far - but now do keep a spare bottom ho=
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----- Original Message -----=20
<br>From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>=20
<br>To: warthodson@aol.com=20
<br>Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>=20
<br>Sent: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:04:11 -0700 (MST)=20
<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core=
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8gmail_default">
I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust s=
ystem with lagging as it will cause its early demise due to rust. =
;
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<div style=3D"color: #3333ff;" class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv107336581=
8gmail_default">
I was told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my steel hea=
ders are still intact. =20
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On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <=20
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=
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I am jumping in on this subject a bit late, so I do not know=
if Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve for the bypass o=
r not. Either that type of thermostat or a fixed blanking sleeve for the by=
pass would be essential for this climate. Or any climate for that matter.&n=
bsp; =20
<br clear=3D"none">=20
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">I agree with you, how=
ever, this is south Florida where a cool winter day is today, where the tem=
perature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a high of 83 degrees with a =
se wind at 7 mph. Great for a day sail on the Harbor which I will do =
in the next hour. However, it does make driving a hot car fun. There =
is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator to handle hot climates=
and have to stop and go because the temperature does not go down only up.&=
nbsp; So the next step is to re-core the radiator. The local radiator=
guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new core using the old tan=
ks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity. This is a SKI =
purchase. Spend the Kids Inheritance. Then I will think about w=
rapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.</span>
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<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">What do you think abo=
ut Push and Pull? Take off the engine fan?</span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">By the way, I know th=
e engine machine shop boiled out, oil bathed, everything in the engine duri=
ng his machining of the engine to bring it up to specifications. He k=
nows what to do. The only modification is the 20 over pistons. =
</span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Why do other Healey=
=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this problem, who knows?</span>
</div>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Bob </span>
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<strong>Subject:</strong> RE: [Healeys] Over heating=
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Bob
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With the extras that you have added to facilitate the =
airflow the car should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock r=
adiator. There is something else amiss in the equation.
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Perry
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Hi Perry:</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">I do not remember the=
CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss with the largest diamet=
er to fit the radiator. As a pusher it really pushes air through the =
engine compartment at low speeds and standing still. I still have an origin=
al Texas 6 blade fan on the engine. As I was searching overheating pr=
oblems, one reference indicated that is not recommended as they act against=
each other.</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
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Same.
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Wrapped my steel headers in 1995.
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No issues to date with them.
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Replaced mufflers twice, but that's a road abrasion issue due to m=
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Robert--
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I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust=
system with lagging as it will cause its early demise due to rust.&nb=
sp;
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I was told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my steel h=
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I am jumping in on this subject a bit late, so I do not kn=
ow if Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve for the bypass=
or not. Either that type of thermostat or a fixed blanking sleeve for the =
bypass would be essential for this climate. Or any climate for that matter.=
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el=3D"noopener">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>>=20
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<br clear=3D"none"> Cc: healeys <=20
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t" rel=3D"noopener">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>=20
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nd adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator=20
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">I agree with you, h=
owever, this is south Florida where a cool winter day is today, where the t=
emperature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a high of 83 degrees with =
a se wind at 7 mph. Great for a day sail on the Harbor which I will d=
o in the next hour. However, it does make driving a hot car fun. Ther=
e is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator to handle hot climat=
es and have to stop and go because the temperature does not go down only up=
. So the next step is to re-core the radiator. The local radiat=
or guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new core using the old t=
anks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity. This is a SK=
I purchase. Spend the Kids Inheritance. Then I will think about=
wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.</span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">What do you think a=
bout Push and Pull? Take off the engine fan?</span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">By the way, I know =
the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bathed, everything in the engine du=
ring his machining of the engine to bring it up to specifications. He=
knows what to do. The only modification is the 20 over pistons. =
; </span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Why do other Healey=
=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this problem, who knows?</span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Bob </span>
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e; border-left: none; border-top: 1pt solid #e1e1e1; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"=
>
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<strong>From:</strong> Perry <=20
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.=
com" rel=3D"noopener">healeyguy@aol.com</a>>=20
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ng and adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator
</div>
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<div>
Bob
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<div>
With the extras that you have added to facilitate th=
e airflow the car should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock=
radiator. There is something else amiss in the equation.
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Perry
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<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Hi Perry:</span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">I do not remember t=
he CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss with the largest diam=
eter to fit the radiator. As a pusher it really pushes air through th=
e engine compartment at low speeds and standing still. I still have an orig=
inal Texas 6 blade fan on the engine. As I was searching overheating =
problems, one reference indicated that is not recommended as they act again=
st each other.</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
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<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=
=3D"noopener">Healeys@autox.team.net</a>=20
<br>=20
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/listin=
fo/healeys" rel=3D"noopener">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys=
</a>=20
<br>=20
<br> Unsubscribe/Manage:=20
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/option=
s/healeys/austin.healey@gmail.com" rel=3D"noopener">http://autox.team.net/m=
ailman/options/healeys/austin.healey@gmail.com</a>=20
<br>=20
<br>
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</blockquote>
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8249">
<div>
<div class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818WordSection1">
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Roger</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">The constant flo=
w of water (coolant, regardless of engine RPM, to maximize the cooling abil=
ity, is an interesting thought. My thermodynamics classes were long a=
go and I really wasn=E2=80=99t paying attention. Okay maybe a little =
but not much.</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">I sent the info =
below to Bob earlier and did not copy the list. Its about a issue (bo=
ld stuff below) that I have found several times when cleaning a six cylinde=
r block during a rebuild.</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Perry</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">=E2=80=9CBob</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">With 37 years li=
ving in Hawaii I understand the impact of tropical weather. I used to dread=
when asked to participate in a parade with the stock 100. With no fan shro=
ud the 4 blade stock fan only moved about 1000 CFM and that was not at idle=
. The car at even 30MPH has plenty of air flow through the rad. A pusher fa=
n actually has the possibility of blocking air flow at speed. Ignitio=
n timing has an impact on the running temp but is not the game changer. Car=
b mixture settings (to lean) will push the temps up. <strong><span style=3D=
"font-size: 14.0pt;">That said the six cylinder cars seem to have less over=
heating issues then the 100=E2=80=99s. </span></strong></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><strong><span st=
yle=3D"font-size: 14.0pt;">On at least 6 3000 engines I have found extreme =
buildup of debris inside the water passages at the lower areas adjacent to =
the cylinders. Less on cylinders 1 and 6. Block paint was discolored on a c=
ouple of them in that area. Boiling the block did not remove the crud. =
; I used a piece of speedo cable in a drill motor to brake up the corrosion=
and air and vacuum to get it out of the blocks. Of course it required a st=
ripped block with freeze plugs removed.</span></strong></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Ok Bob, while I=
=E2=80=99m putting this email together I see that a bunch of folks ju=
mped in. Looks like similar thoughts.</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">P</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Sent from <a tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986"; re=
l=3D"noopener">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; paddi=
ng: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"border: none; padding: 0in;" class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-y=
iv1073365818MsoNormal"><strong>From: </strong><a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; rel=3D"noopener">Roger Grace</a><br><strong>Sent=
: </strong>Tuesday, January 14, 2020 6:53 PM<br><strong>To: </strong><a tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noopener">Mic=
hael Oritt</a><br><strong>Cc: </strong><a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:=
healeys@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noopener">Austin Healey</a><br><strong>Subje=
ct: </strong>Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to=
theexisting radiator</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">Just a t=
hought ...</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">Our car=
s all run hotter when idling and consequent reduced airflow.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">However=
both fan airflow and water flow are proportional to speed.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">So at 7=
50 RPM idle compared to say 1500 RPM the air flow (engine driven fan) and c=
oolant flow is reduced by a factor of 2.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">So incr=
easing just the airfow with constant speed E fans has somewhat limited effe=
ct.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">It had =
minor improvement for me in traffic.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">I then =
installed an electric water pump to compensate for the reduced coolant flow=
at idling.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">Works r=
eally well in conjuction with an E fan</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">The E p=
ump is almost invisible in the engine compartment - you have to really look=
for it. It is installed in line in the bottom hose.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">Both ar=
e controlled from a single switch under the dash - via a relay. BTW I have =
a natural dislike for thermostats but that would work too. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">So when=
ever the engine is really up to temp (sustained run) and am approaching tra=
ffic I switch them both on.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">Works f=
ine and relaible so far - but now do keep a spare bottom hose in my trunk.<=
/span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">rg</spa=
n></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;"> =
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">----- O=
riginal Message -----<br>From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>=
;<br>To: warthodson@aol.com<br>Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net=
><br>Sent: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:04:11 -0700 (MST)<br>Subject: Re: [Healey=
s] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator</s=
pan></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;"> =
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #3333ff;">Robe=
rt--</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #3333ff;"> &nb=
sp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #3333ff;">I'm =
sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust system with lag=
ging as it will cause its early demise due to rust. </span>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #3333ff;">I wa=
s told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are still=
intact. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #3333ff;"> &nb=
sp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #3333ff;">Best=
--Michael Oritt</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;"> =
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">On Tue=
, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <<a target=3D"_blank=
" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noopener">healeys@autox.tea=
m.net</a>> wrote:</span></p>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<div>
<div id=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818gmail-m_-435956093162136=
4984yiv1047233329">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-=
yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Ari=
al', sans-serif; color: black;">I am jumping in on this subject a bit late,=
so I do not know if Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve=
for the bypass or not. Either that type of thermostat or a fixed blanking =
sleeve for the bypass would be essential for this climate. Or any climate f=
or that matter. <br><br></span></p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f=
-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Ar=
ial', sans-serif; color: black;">-----Original Message-----<br><br>From: Ro=
bert Begani <<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; rel=
=3D"noopener">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>><br><br>To: 'Perry' <<a target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; rel=3D"noopener">healeyguy@ao=
l.com</a>><br><br>Cc: healeys <<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:he=
aleys@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noopener">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b=
r>Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am<br><br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heati=
ng and adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator</span></p>
<div id=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818gmail-m_-43595609316=
21364984yiv1047233329yqt90724">
<div id=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818gmail-m_-4359560931=
621364984yiv1047233329">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool winter d=
ay is today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a =
high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph. Great for a day sail on t=
he Harbor which I will do in the next hour. However, it does make dri=
ving a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radia=
tor to handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature =
does not go down only up. So the next step is to re-core the radiator=
. The local radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide =
new core using the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capa=
city. This is a SKI purchase. Spend the Kids Inheritance. =
Then I will think about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop=
vapor lock.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">What do you think about Push and Pull? Take off the engine fan?<=
/span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bathed, eve=
rything in the engine during his machining of the engine to bring it up to =
specifications. He knows what to do. The only modification is t=
he 20 over pistons. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this prob=
lem, who knows?</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">Bob </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1=
1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><=
strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; =
color: black;">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;"> Perry <<a target=3D"_blank"=
href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; rel=3D"noopener">healeyguy@aol.com</a>&g=
t; <br><strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM<br><strong=
>To:</strong> Robert Begani <<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rfbegan=
i@gmail.com" rel=3D"noopener">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>><br><strong>Subject=
:</strong> RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to t=
heexisting radiator</span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">Bob</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow the car =
should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There i=
s something else amiss in the equation.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">Perry</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">Sent from <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink=
/?LinkId=3D550986" rel=3D"noopener">Mail</a> for Windows 10</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><s=
trong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; c=
olor: black;">From: </span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;"><a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"ma=
ilto:rfbegani@gmail.com" rel=3D"noopener">Robert Begani</a><br><strong>Sent=
: </strong>Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM<br><strong>To: </strong><a ta=
rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; rel=3D"noopener">'Perry'<=
/a><br><strong>Subject: </strong>RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding addi=
tional core tubes to theexisting radiator</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">Hi Perry:</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offered by Mo=
ss with the largest diameter to fit the radiator. As a pusher it real=
ly pushes air through the engine compartment at low speeds and standing sti=
ll. I still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine. As I wa=
s searching overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not recom=
mended as they act against each other.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">Bob</span></p>
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<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Roger</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">The constant flo=
w of water (coolant, regardless of engine RPM, to maximize the cooling abil=
ity, is an interesting thought. My thermodynamics classes were long a=
go and I really wasn=E2=80=99t paying attention. Okay maybe a little =
but not much.</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">I sent the info =
below to Bob earlier and did not copy the list. Its about a issue (bo=
ld stuff below) that I have found several times when cleaning a six cylinde=
r block during a rebuild.</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Perry</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">=E2=80=9CBob</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">With 37 years li=
ving in Hawaii I understand the impact of tropical weather. I used to dread=
when asked to participate in a parade with the stock 100. With no fan shro=
ud the 4 blade stock fan only moved about 1000 CFM and that was not at idle=
. The car at even 30MPH has plenty of air flow through the rad. A pusher fa=
n actually has the possibility of blocking air flow at speed. Ignitio=
n timing has an impact on the running temp but is not the game changer. Car=
b mixture settings (to lean) will push the temps up. <strong><span style=3D=
"font-size: 14.0pt;">That said the six cylinder cars seem to have less over=
heating issues then the 100=E2=80=99s. </span></strong></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><strong><span st=
yle=3D"font-size: 14.0pt;">On at least 6 3000 engines I have found extreme =
buildup of debris inside the water passages at the lower areas adjacent to =
the cylinders. Less on cylinders 1 and 6. Block paint was discolored on a c=
ouple of them in that area. Boiling the block did not remove the crud. =
; I used a piece of speedo cable in a drill motor to brake up the corrosion=
and air and vacuum to get it out of the blocks. Of course it required a st=
ripped block with freeze plugs removed.</span></strong></p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Ok Bob, while I=
=E2=80=99m putting this email together I see that a bunch of folks ju=
mped in. Looks like similar thoughts.</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">P</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal">Sent from <a tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986"; re=
l=3D"noopener">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; paddi=
ng: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"border: none; padding: 0in;" class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-y=
iv1073365818MsoNormal"><strong>From: </strong><a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; rel=3D"noopener">Roger Grace</a><br><strong>Sent=
: </strong>Tuesday, January 14, 2020 6:53 PM<br><strong>To: </strong><a tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noopener">Mic=
hael Oritt</a><br><strong>Cc: </strong><a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:=
healeys@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noopener">Austin Healey</a><br><strong>Subje=
ct: </strong>Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to=
theexisting radiator</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">Just a t=
hought ...</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">Our car=
s all run hotter when idling and consequent reduced airflow.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">However=
both fan airflow and water flow are proportional to speed.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">So at 7=
50 RPM idle compared to say 1500 RPM the air flow (engine driven fan) and c=
oolant flow is reduced by a factor of 2.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">So incr=
easing just the airfow with constant speed E fans has somewhat limited effe=
ct.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">It had =
minor improvement for me in traffic.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">I then =
installed an electric water pump to compensate for the reduced coolant flow=
at idling.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">Works r=
eally well in conjuction with an E fan</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">The E p=
ump is almost invisible in the engine compartment - you have to really look=
for it. It is installed in line in the bottom hose.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">Both ar=
e controlled from a single switch under the dash - via a relay. BTW I have =
a natural dislike for thermostats but that would work too. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">So when=
ever the engine is really up to temp (sustained run) and am approaching tra=
ffic I switch them both on.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">Works f=
ine and relaible so far - but now do keep a spare bottom hose in my trunk.<=
/span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">rg</spa=
n></p>
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<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;"> =
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">----- O=
riginal Message -----<br>From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>=
;<br>To: warthodson@aol.com<br>Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net=
><br>Sent: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:04:11 -0700 (MST)<br>Subject: Re: [Healey=
s] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator</s=
pan></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;"> =
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
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<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #3333ff;">Robe=
rt--</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #3333ff;"> &nb=
sp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #3333ff;">I'm =
sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust system with lag=
ging as it will cause its early demise due to rust. </span>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #3333ff;">I wa=
s told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are still=
intact. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #3333ff;"> &nb=
sp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: #3333ff;">Best=
--Michael Oritt</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;"> =
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">On Tue=
, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <<a target=3D"_blank=
" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noopener">healeys@autox.tea=
m.net</a>> wrote:</span></p>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<div>
<div id=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818gmail-m_-435956093162136=
4984yiv1047233329">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-=
yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Ari=
al', sans-serif; color: black;">I am jumping in on this subject a bit late,=
so I do not know if Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve=
for the bypass or not. Either that type of thermostat or a fixed blanking =
sleeve for the bypass would be essential for this climate. Or any climate f=
or that matter. <br><br></span></p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f=
-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Ar=
ial', sans-serif; color: black;">-----Original Message-----<br><br>From: Ro=
bert Begani <<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; rel=
=3D"noopener">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>><br><br>To: 'Perry' <<a target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; rel=3D"noopener">healeyguy@ao=
l.com</a>><br><br>Cc: healeys <<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:he=
aleys@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noopener">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b=
r>Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am<br><br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heati=
ng and adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator</span></p>
<div id=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818gmail-m_-43595609316=
21364984yiv1047233329yqt90724">
<div id=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818gmail-m_-4359560931=
621364984yiv1047233329">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool winter d=
ay is today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a =
high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph. Great for a day sail on t=
he Harbor which I will do in the next hour. However, it does make dri=
ving a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radia=
tor to handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature =
does not go down only up. So the next step is to re-core the radiator=
. The local radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide =
new core using the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capa=
city. This is a SKI purchase. Spend the Kids Inheritance. =
Then I will think about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop=
vapor lock.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">What do you think about Push and Pull? Take off the engine fan?<=
/span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bathed, eve=
rything in the engine during his machining of the engine to bring it up to =
specifications. He knows what to do. The only modification is t=
he 20 over pistons. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this prob=
lem, who knows?</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ox-1f2d1b630f-yiv1073365818MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color: bla=
ck;">Bob </span></p>
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:</strong> RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to t=
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ck;">With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow the car =
should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There i=
s something else amiss in the equation.</span></p>
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ck;">I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offered by Mo=
ss with the largest diameter to fit the radiator. As a pusher it real=
ly pushes air through the engine compartment at low speeds and standing sti=
ll. I still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine. As I wa=
s searching overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not recom=
mended as they act against each other.</span></p>
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