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Try a large syringe and clear hose
Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
1959 Austin Healey BN4
1967 MGB
On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 6:45 PM Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> wrote:
> Update.
> Have decided on a 2 pronged approach.
> Filled with NGLI - 00 grease and monitoring for ANY leaks.
> So far so good.
> ANY signs of leaking will do it properly and replace the seal.
>
> On a separate note beware ... there is always a crocodile lurking. I
> ordered a cannister of the Penrite grease and ariived no issue. However t=
he
> Oz Penrite cannister is a larger diameter and does not fit our DIN 1284
> sized grease guns (used in USA Canada UK and Europe) .... grrr ! Never
> received any comment from Penrite about this.
> So had to resort to spooning with the usual mess and wastage ....
> rg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bluehealey <bluehealey@gmail.com>
> To: 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 09:14:51 -0700 (MST)
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box Questions
>
> Guys.
>
> This is an interesting thread and I absolutely agree with use of the NLGI
> grease. This becomes a =E2=80=98fit and forget=E2=80=99 mod. Neglible =E2=
=80=93 probably zero =E2=80=93
> leaks and therefore no need to ever top up again. The stuff sticks like
> 5h1t to a blanket and gets dragged by the worm into the rocker arm bearin=
g
> surface. I practically brimmed mine after replacing the oil seals and it
> has never leaked.
>
> Regarding R&R in situ. Removal of the column/box really isn=E2=80=99t a =
big deal.
> The sequence, from memory:
>
> Disconnect the bullets and withdraw the trafficator including stator tube
> in one piece. Plug the exit hole olive and nut with a 3/8=E2=80=9D bolt t=
o minimise
> oil over the floor.
>
> Steering wheel off and grille out.
>
> Undo column clamp and three box bolts. Split the steering rod joints.
>
> The box comes out easily then by rotating it and drawing out of the grill=
e
> opening.
>
>
>
> The trick for re-installing is to slide a PVC tube into the car long
> enough to pass from grille opening into the cockpit. Plumbing waste pipe
> here in the UK. The engine bay grommet plate is positioned on the plastic
> tube and the grommet as two separate items. Slide the column into the tub=
e
> and through the grille until the box can be caught on a front trunnion
> bolt. Then withdraw the plastic tube and install the clamp, plates and
> grommets.
>
> It isn=E2=80=99t as difficult as it may appear and makes working on the b=
ox a very
> comfortable exercise at the bench.
>
> JM2C
>
> Have fun
>
> AlanB
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *
> simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
> *Sent:* 26 January 2020 10:10
> *To:* 'Perry'
> *Cc:* 'Healeys'
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Steering Box Questions
>
>
>
> Yes. Further to my last email, there is further info on the tube:-
>
> =E2=80=9CPolyurea thickened grease that is a superior corn head lubricant=
=E2=80=9D.
>
> &
>
> =E2=80=9CApplications:
>
> Corn head gear cases, irrigation system gear boxes, and gear boxes
> requiring NLGi =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D grade grease=E2=80=9D.
>
> &, rather relevantly,
>
> =E2=80=9CProblem solving grease for gearboxes with leaky seals=E2=80=9D.
>
> Were not half of the text in French, I remain confident that there would
> be reference to =E2=80=9Cleaky old Brit cars=E2=80=9D=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6!
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Perry via
> Healeys
> *Sent:* 26 January 2020 02:19
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Steering Box Questions
>
>
>
> Listers
>
> Looks like the common denominator on these thick oils/pourable greases is
> that they meet the requirements of *NLGI 00*standard (NLGI is National
> Lubricating Grease Institute). This topic is a common one in the old car
> world with folks like us. The results of the use of this product, mainly
> lack of leaks on old steering boxes, is mentioned on many sites. So if yo=
u
> have an very old Chevy or a AH this stuff is helpful. Not saying that a
> properly repaired steering box can=E2=80=99t be nearly leak free but for =
most of us
> this stuff will make the situation much better. Don=E2=80=99t let the ter=
m grease
> deter your use. It still flows to all the places that need lubrication b=
ut
> resists leaking out. By the way there are lots of sources for this stuf=
f
> under many name brands and retailers. NAPA, John Deere and a multitude o=
f
> others. Use the NLGI 00 specs to find supplier near you.
>
> Perry
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Chris Dimmock <austin.healey@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Saturday, January 25, 2020 6:33 PM
> *To: *Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
> *Cc: *Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Steering Box Questions
>
>
>
> Penrite comes in grease gun cartridges.
>
> I replace the filler with a 1/4 bsp nipple to fill
>
>
>
> https://www.penriteoil.com.au/assets/pis_pdfs/STEERING%20BOX%20LUBE.pdf
>
>
>
>
> On 26 Jan 2020, at 6:18 am, Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> wrote:
>
> Two questions for the more experienced among us ...
>
>
>
> My BJ8 steering box is leaking. From the front cover and more
> significantly from the shaft.
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Try a large syringe and clear hose<br><br><div data-smart=
mail=3D"gmail_signature">Ira Erbs<br>Portland,OR<br>1959 Austin Healey BN4<=
br>1967 MGB</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 6:45 PM Roger Grace <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:roggrace@telus.net">roggrace@telus.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Update.</div><div>Have decided on a 2 pro=
nged approach.</div><div>Filled with NGLI - 00 grease and monitoring for AN=
Y leaks.</div><div>So far so good.</div><div>ANY signs of leaking will do i=
t properly and replace the seal.</div><div><br></div><div>On a separate not=
e beware ... there is always a crocodile lurking. I ordered a cannister of =
the Penrite grease and ariived no issue. However the Oz Penrite cannister i=
s a larger diameter and does not fit our DIN 1284 sized grease guns (used i=
n USA Canada UK and Europe) .... grrr ! Never received any comment from Pen=
rite about this.<br></div><div>So had to resort to spooning with the usual =
mess and wastage ....<br></div><div>rg<br></div><div><br></div><div>----- O=
riginal Message -----<br>From: Bluehealey <<a href=3D"mailto:bluehealey@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">bluehealey@gmail.com</a>>=
;<br>To: 'Healeys' <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>Sent: =
Sun, 26 Jan 2020 09:14:51 -0700 (MST)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Bo=
x Questions</div><div><br></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
color:#1f497d">Guys.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:=
#1f497d">This is an interesting thread and I absolutely agree with use of t=
he NLGI grease. This becomes a =E2=80=98fit and forget=E2=80=99 mod. Neglib=
le =E2=80=93 probably zero =E2=80=93 leaks and therefore no need to ever to=
p up again. The stuff sticks like 5h1t to a blanket and gets dragged by the=
worm into the rocker arm bearing surface. I practically brimmed mine after=
replacing the oil seals and it has never leaked.</span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">Regarding R&R in situ.=C2=A0 Remo=
val of the column/box really isn=E2=80=99t a big deal. The sequence, from m=
emory:</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">Disco=
nnect the bullets and withdraw the trafficator including stator tube in one=
piece. Plug the exit hole olive and nut with a 3/8=E2=80=9D bolt to minimi=
se oil over the floor.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"colo=
r:#1f497d">Steering wheel off and grille out.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">Undo column clamp and three box bolts. Sp=
lit the steering rod joints.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:#1f497d">The box comes out easily then by rotating it and drawing=
out of the grille opening. </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"c=
olor:#1f497d">The trick for re-installing is to slide a PVC tube into the c=
ar long enough to pass from grille opening into the cockpit. Plumbing waste=
pipe here in the UK. The engine bay grommet plate is positioned on the pla=
stic tube and the grommet as two separate items. Slide the column into the =
tube and through the grille until the box can be caught on a front trunnion=
bolt. Then withdraw the plastic tube and install the clamp, plates and gro=
mmets.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">It is=
n=E2=80=99t as difficult as it may appear and makes working on the box a ve=
ry comfortable exercise at the bench.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"color:#1f497d">JM2C</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:#1f497d">Have fun</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"color:#1f497d">AlanB</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color=
:#1f497d"><img id=3D"m_8749176827833552524Picture_x0020_1" src=3D"http:///s=
ervice/home/~/?id=3D23540&part=3D1.2&auth=3Dco" width=3D"159" heigh=
t=3D"54"></span><span style=3D"color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d"> =C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span></p><div><div style=3D"border:n=
one;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma',&=
#39;sans-serif'" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'" lang=3D"EN-US">=
Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Be=
half Of </b><a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br><b>Sent=
:</b> 26 January 2020 10:10<br><b>To:</b> 'Perry'<br><b>Cc:</b> =
9;Healeys'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Steering Box Questions</spa=
n></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span>Yes. Further to my last email, there is further info on the tube:-</sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=E2=80=9CPolyurea thickened grease that=
is a superior corn head lubricant=E2=80=9D.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span>&</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=E2=80=9CApplications=
:</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Corn head gear cases, irrigation s=
ystem gear boxes, and gear boxes requiring NLGi =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D grade g=
rease=E2=80=9D.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>&, rather releva=
ntly,</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=E2=80=9CProblem solving greas=
e for gearboxes with leaky seals=E2=80=9D.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span>Were not half of the text in French, I remain confident that there w=
ould be reference to =E2=80=9Cleaky old Brit cars=E2=80=9D=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6!</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span></p><div><div style=3D"border:=
none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> He=
aleys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf O=
f </b>Perry via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 26 January 2020 02:19<br><b>To:</b>=
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefer=
rer">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Steering B=
ox Questions</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Listers</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Looks like the common denominator on these thick oi=
ls/pourable greases is that they meet the requirements of=C2=A0 <b>NLGI 00<=
/b><span style=3D"color:black;background:white">standard (NLGI is National =
Lubricating Grease Institute).=C2=A0 This topic is a common one in the old =
car world with folks like us. The results of the use of this product, mainl=
y lack of leaks on old steering boxes, is mentioned on many sites. So if yo=
u have an very old Chevy or a AH this stuff is helpful. Not saying that a p=
roperly repaired steering box can=E2=80=99t be nearly leak free but for mos=
t of us this stuff will make the situation much better. Don=E2=80=99t let t=
he term grease deter your use.=C2=A0 It still flows to all the places that =
need lubrication but resists leaking out.=C2=A0=C2=A0 By the way there are =
lots of sources for this stuff under many name brands and retailers.=C2=A0 =
NAPA, John Deere and a multitude of others.=C2=A0 Use the NLGI 00 specs to =
find supplier near you.</span></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:black;background:white" lang=3D"EN-US">Perry</span><span lang=3D"=
EN-US"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Sent from <a href=3D"https:=
//go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">Mail</a> for Windows 10</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e=
1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">From: </span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:austin.h=
ealey@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">Chris Dimmock</a><br>=
<b>Sent: </b>Saturday, January 25, 2020 6:33 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"ma=
ilto:roggrace@telus.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">Roger Grace</=
a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"noreferrer">Austin Healey</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Ste=
ering Box Questions</span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN=
-US">=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Penrite c=
omes in grease gun cartridges.=C2=A0</span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span lang=3D"EN-US">I replace the filler with a 1/4 bsp nipple to fill</sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https=
://www.penriteoil.com.au/assets/pis_pdfs/STEERING%20BOX%20LUBE.pdf" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.penriteoil.com.au/assets/pis_pdf=
s/STEERING%20BOX%20LUBE.pdf</a></span><br></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><br>On 26 Jan 2020, a=
t 6:18 am, Roger Grace <<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">roggrace@telus.net</a>> wrote:</span></p></di=
v><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Two questions for the more experien=
ced among us ...</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"=
EN-US">=C2=A0</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-=
US">My BJ8 steering box is leaking. From the front cover and more significa=
ntly from the shaft.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span></p></div></div></blockquote><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span></p></div><div><br></div></div>_________=
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