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Michael - yes point taken; however your narrative didn't say what those BE
journals looked like when you eventually stripped that engine !
My manual says 7.25 litres capacity including the filter.Added another qrt of
oil, so I now have 7.6 liters in my engine.Dip stick right on max. graduation
markSame story yesterday after a long run with oil at about 175FYes do have an
oil cooler but don't think that the cooler oil drains when I drain the pan.My
thinking is that the capacity and style of the oil pan or gasket thickness does
not matter as long as you fill up to the dip stick marks. The dip stick tube
length is the reference that sets the correct internal oil level. Also the
marks on the stickI note that there are 2 different sticks referenced in the
Moss catalog.Mine is the straight one. So what gives ?Are there perhaps
different sticks and tubes out there ?Mine looks stock but you never know ...Or
maybe other cars also do this but unnoticed and ignored ....rg
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
To: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, 09 May 2020 13:46:47 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Pressure
Hi Roger, before panicking too much about your short lived zero pressure issue
read through this article that I wrote about 14 years ago regarding oil
pressure issues; it may set your mind at
ease.https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2006/11/30/why-im-raising-the-suspension-and-fitting-a-sump-guard/
M
On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:24 PM Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> wrote:
'67 BJ8 with recently rebuilt engine and cast alloy oil pan by PO.7 Qts
VR1shows marginally above top dip stick mark.
Oil coolerNormal running and idle OP is fine
Would welcome comments from more experienced listers.When oil is really hot -
after a run after and after moderate hard braking (not panic stop) OP falls to
zero for about 2-3 secs before recovering to normal - around 48 psi. Not
noticed when oil is cold.
My thoughts:
Are there differences in the length of the pump input strainer assembly ?
Maybe should be using more oil with the extra oil cooler volume ? Maybe this
dip stick is incorrect for this type of sump ?
This is bad for my BP - particularly when watching zero on gauge and waiting
for it to pick up !!
Thank you
rg
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<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;}</style></head><body><div>Michael - yes=
point taken; however your narrative didn't say what those BE journals look=
ed like when you eventually stripped that engine !<br></div><div><br =
data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>My manual says 7.25 litres capacity includi=
ng the filter.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Added another qrt of oil,=
so I now have 7.6 liters in my engine.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>=
Dip stick right on max. graduation mark<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>=
Same story yesterday after a long run with oil at about 175F<br data-mce-bo=
gus=3D"1"></div><div>Yes do have an oil cooler but don't think that the coo=
ler oil drains when I drain the pan.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br=
data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>My thinking is that the capacity and style=
of the oil pan or gasket thickness does not matter as long as you fill up =
to the dip stick marks. The dip stick tube length is the reference that set=
s the correct internal oil level. Also the marks on the stick<br data-mce-b=
ogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>I note that there=
are 2 different sticks referenced in the Moss catalog.<br data-mce-bogus=
=3D"1"></div><div>Mine is the straight one. <br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div>=
<div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>So what gives ?<br data-mce-bogus=
=3D"1"></div><div>Are there perhaps different sticks and tubes out there ?<=
br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Mine looks stock but you never know ...<=
br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Or m=
aybe other cars also do this but unnoticed and ignored ....<br data-mce-bog=
us=3D"1"></div><div>rg<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br></div><div>--=
--- Original Message -----<br>From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.=
com><br>To: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net><br>Cc: healeys@autox.=
team.net<br>Sent: Sat, 09 May 2020 13:46:47 -0600 (MDT)<br>Subject: Re: [He=
aleys] Oil Pressure<br></div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: s=
mall;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: =
small;">Hi Roger, before panicking too much about your short lived zero pre=
ssure issue read through this article that I wrote about 14 years ago regar=
ding oil pressure issues; it may set your mind at ease.</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: s=
mall;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: =
small;"><a href=3D"https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2006/11/30/why-im-rai=
sing-the-suspension-and-fitting-a-sump-guard/" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-h=
ref=3D"https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2006/11/30/why-im-raising-the-sus=
pension-and-fitting-a-sump-guard/">https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2006/=
11/30/why-im-raising-the-suspension-and-fitting-a-sump-guard/</a><br data-m=
ce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: com=
ic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: co=
mic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;" d=
ata-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">=
M<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms=
,sans-serif; font-size: small;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans m=
s,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, May 9, 2020 =
at 2:24 PM Roger Grace <<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; target=3D"=
_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net";>roggrace@telus.net</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce=
-style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; paddin=
g-left: 1ex;"><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>'67 BJ=
8 with recently rebuilt engine and cast alloy oil pan by PO.</div><div>7 Qt=
s VR1shows marginally above top dip stick mark.<br></div><div>Oil cooler</d=
iv><div>Normal running and idle OP is fine</div><div><br></div><div>Would w=
elcome comments from more experienced listers.</div><div>When oil is really=
hot - after a run after and after moderate hard braking (not panic stop) O=
P falls to zero for about 2-3 secs before recovering to normal - around 48 =
psi. Not noticed when oil is cold.<br></div><div><br></div><div>My thoughts=
:<br></div><div><br></div><div>Are there differences in the length of the p=
ump input strainer assembly ?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Maybe should be =
using more oil with the extra oil cooler volume ? Maybe this dip stick is i=
ncorrect for this type of sump ?<br></div><div><br></div><div>This is bad f=
or my BP - particularly when watching zero on gauge and waiting for it to p=
ick up !!<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you<br></div><div>rg<br></div>=
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