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Looks like I got "shorted" on my cable. Unfortunately, that was 5=0Ayear=
s ago, so I will have to bite the bullet and buy the correct new=0Aone.=
I guess by now RIW has the correct spec for it. So, it should be=0Aeasy=
to get a replacement 17-1/2" long. I have the hole and the clip=0Ato af=
fix it. Concerned that Roland says that the helmets are not the=0A"prope=
r" ones. The photo I previously sent, and this picture from=0AMichael, s=
eem to show the same head reading "Lucas Patented + or -"=0AWhat is the=
proper helmet? I would want the correct items if I go thru=0Athe troubl=
e of getting a longer cable to save a .5 penalty. Due to my=0Apast exper=
ience with concours, I will probably never enter this car=0Aanyway...but=
proper is proper when it comes to making the Healey=0Aappear to be fact=
ory correct. Hank=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------From:=
"Michael Salter" =0ATo: "Hank Leach"=0ACc: "John Harper", "Healeys@auto=
x.team.net"=0ASent: Tuesday June 9 2020 4:48:05PM=0ASubject: Re: [Healey=
s] Anybody have experience with this battery?=0A=0ARegarding the Rhode I=
sland battery to battery cable. =0AA few years back I encountered the sa=
me issue with the battery to=0Abattery cable being too short on a BN1. T=
he one supplied was 15 1/2"=0Acenter to center of the terminal caps. =0A=
I contacted R I W and they were very obliging, sent me a replacement=0Aw=
hich was 2" longer and indicated that they would amend their=0Ainformati=
on for future orders.It was plenty long enough. =0A=0AI'm sure that if y=
ou were to contact them they would be only too happy=0Ato help out.=0A=
=0AM=0A=0AOn Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:02 PM wrote:=0AJohn-I never take off=
ence on anything Healey...not too many things=0Awere "standard" as is fo=
und on US made cars. The early '53s had lots=0Aof differences (over 50)=
from later production and BN2s. However,=0Athere is a bolt hole on the=
rear panel of #588, as you noted, (as seen=0Ahere) but the cable suppli=
ed by Rhode Island Wiring was not long=0Aenough to connect to that spot.=
Since the cable came assembled with=0Athe helmets and proper sheathing,=
I did not want to alter it. I think=0Athe concours hit would be 1/2 poi=
nt. and as Perry said in the scope of=0Ait all, it probably would not af=
fect winning gold status. Good eye!=0ARegards, Hank=0A=0A=09------------=
-----------------------------From: "John Harper" =0ATo: gradea1@charter.=
net [2]=0ACc: =0ASent: Monday June 8 2020 11:57:11AM=0ASubject: Re: [Hea=
leys] Anybody have experience with this battery?=0A=0ARoland=0AI hope th=
at you will not take offence with following but I believe=0Athat the lin=
king cable should be held up the middle with a 'P' clip=0Aand a small bo=
lt and nut on the lower lip of the rear of the panel=0ABest regards=0AOn=
Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 18:53, wrote:=0AI'm using the concours correct 17L,=
6V batteries from Antique auto=0Abattery(now Jim's or NLE)...bought yea=
rs ago and kept on maintain=0Acharge. They no longer make a 17L battery.=
Now-a-days you can still=0Apurchase a 19L battery which will fit the tr=
ay, has mounting ears, and=0Ais about 1" taller than the old 17s. Reason=
why is that VW bugs and=0AMGBs also used that same unit. As Roland says=
: be sure to insulate the=0Abattery lid with Armacord; if the lid is dis=
torted it could short out=0Athe terminals. Otherwise it fits fine and is=
more powerful than the=0A17L. Interstate Battery makes one available to=
day. One 12V works as=0Awell, but you will fail concours (if that's an i=
ssue). Here is the=0Abattery layout using original 17Ls in my 100. Hank,=
healeyhelper.com=0A[4]=0A=0A=09----------------------------------------=
-From: "Roland Wilhelmy" =0ATo: "Bob Spidell"=0ACc: "Healeys"=0ASent: Su=
nday June 7 2020 8:26:46PM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Anybody have experie=
nce with this battery?=0A=0ACheck if 8 1/2" is height of case only or he=
ight to top of battery=0Aposts. If height to top of posts is 9 and a fra=
ction inches you can=0Astill use in a BN1 or 2 but you risk shorting bat=
tery to the body if=0Ayou aren't very careful and if you didn't insulate=
the underside of=0Athe door well. It fits all the other cars, though.=
=0AAlso, the capacity of those original style tar tops is limited and=
=0Amarginal. Modern batteries are much more energetic and smaller, too.=
A=0A12volt battery that will fit the battery tray will do better than t=
wo=0Aoriginal tar top 6volt batteries and cost about $50. So unless you=
are=0Agoing for Concours save your money. =0A-RolandBN1 #724=0AOn Sun,=
Jun 7, 2020, 5:35 PM Bob Spidell wrote:=0A I can't find dimensions fo=
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<html><body>Looks like I got "shorted" on my cable. Unfortunately,=
that was 5 years ago, so I will have to bite the bullet and buy the cor=
rect new one. I guess by now RIW has the correct spec for it. So, it sho=
uld be easy to get a replacement 17-1/2" long. I have the hole and the c=
lip to affix it. Concerned that Roland says that the helmets are not the=
"proper" ones. The photo I previously sent, and this picture from Micha=
el, seem to show the same head reading "Lucas Patented + or -" What is t=
he proper helmet? I would want the correct items if I go thru the troubl=
e of getting a longer cable to save a .5 penalty. Due to my past experie=
nce with concours, I will probably never enter this car anyway...but pro=
per is proper when it comes to making the Healey appear to be factory co=
rrect. Hank<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>---------=
--------------------------------</p>From: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalte=
r@gmail.com><br>To: "Hank Leach"<br>Cc: "John Harper", "Healeys@autox.te=
am.net"<br>Sent: Tuesday June 9 2020 4:48:05PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys]=
Anybody have experience with this battery?<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:small">Regarding the Rhode Island battery to battery cable. <br=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">A few years back I encountered the same issue=
with the battery to battery cable being too short on a BN1. The one sup=
plied was 15 1/2" center to center of the terminal caps. <br></div><div=
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:small">I contacted R I W and they were very obliging, sent me a=
replacement which was 2" longer and indicated that they would amend the=
ir information for future orders.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">It was plenty=
long enough. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><div><img src=3D"/index.php/=
inbox/attachment/filenameOriginal/image.png/filenamefs/INBOX39891d2b5ca3=
3bd970f64a6301fa75ae2eb22" alt=3D"image.png" width=3D"559" height=3D"231=
"></div><div><br></div><div>I'm sure that if you were to contact them th=
ey would be only too happy to help out.<br></div><div><br></div><div>M<b=
r></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Ju=
n 9, 2020 at 4:02 PM <<a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">gradea1@charter.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>John-I never take offence on a=
nything Healey...not too many things were "standard" as is found on US m=
ade cars. The early '53s had lots of differences (over 50) from later pr=
oduction and BN2s. However, there is a bolt hole on the rear panel of #5=
88, as you noted, (as seen here) but the cable supplied by Rhode Island=
Wiring was not long enough to connect to that spot. Since the cable cam=
e assembled with the helmets and proper sheathing, I did not want to alt=
er it. I think the concours hit would be 1/2 point. and as Perry said in=
the scope of it all, it probably would not affect winning gold status.=
Good eye! Regards, Hank<br><br><div></div><p>--------------------------=
---------------</p>From: "John Harper" <u></u><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:=
gradea1@charter.net" target=3D"_blank">gradea1@charter.net</a><br>Cc: <b=
r>Sent: Monday June 8 2020 11:57:11AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anybody=
have experience with this battery?<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Roland<div><=
br></div><div>I hope that you will not take offence with following but I=
believe that the linking cable should be held up the middle w=
ith a 'P' clip and a small bolt and nut on the lower lip of the rear of=
the panel</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 8 Jun 2=
020 at 18:53, <<a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k">gradea1@charter.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>I'm using the concours correct 17L, 6V=
batteries from Antique auto battery(now Jim's or NLE)...bought years ag=
o and kept on maintain charge. They no longer make a 17L battery. =
Now-a-days you can still purchase a 19L battery which will fit the tray=
, has mounting ears, and is about 1" taller than the old 17s. Reas=
on why is that VW bugs and MGBs also used that same unit. As Rolan=
d says: be sure to insulate the battery lid with Armacord; if the lid is=
distorted it could short out the terminals. Otherwise it fits fine and=
is more powerful than the 17L. Interstate Battery makes one available t=
oday. One 12V works as well, but you will fail concours (if that's an is=
sue). Here is the battery layout using original 17Ls in my 100. Hank, <a=
href=3D"http://healeyhelper.com"; target=3D"_blank">healeyhelper.com</a>=
<br><br><div></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From:=
"Roland Wilhelmy" <u></u><br>To: "Bob Spidell"<br>Cc: "Healeys"<br>Sent=
: Sunday June 7 2020 8:26:46PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anybody have ex=
perience with this battery?<br><br><div dir=3D"auto">Check if 8 1/2" is=
height of case only or height to top of battery posts. If height to top=
of posts is 9 and a fraction inches you can still use in a BN1 or 2 but=
you risk shorting battery to the body if you aren't very careful and if=
you didn't insulate the underside of the door well. It fits all the oth=
er cars, though. <div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Also=
, the capacity of those original style tar tops is limited and marginal.=
Modern batteries are much more energetic and smaller, too. A 12volt bat=
tery that will fit the battery tray will do better than two original tar=
top 6volt batteries and cost about <span>$50</span>. So unless yo=
u are going for Concours save your money. </div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
br><div dir=3D"auto">-Roland</div><div dir=3D"auto">BN1 #724</div></div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 5:35 PM Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspide=
ll@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br=
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