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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Non-Healey related batteries issue
From: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" <thehartnetts@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 11:22:16 -0700
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Simon:  The most commented upon answer to the question of charging a =
dead battery has had to do with the Optima battery.  I have been told by =
a sales person that they cannot be recharged when dead.  Others have =
said, Yes, they can.  The Optima batteries use an advanced form of AGM =
(Absorbent Glass Mat) technology called Spiralcell.  This absorbent =
glass mat holds acid in place by absorbing it like a sponge.  The =
process for bring a dead battery back to life involves connecting a good =
battery in parallel with the dead battery.  This sends a message to the =
charger that there is a battery that needs charging.  After the dead =
battery reaches a few volts of charge, the good battery can be =
disconnected and the charger should continue charging.  I MAKE NO CLAIM =
THAT THIS PROCEDURE WOULD OR WOULD NOT WORK ON AN LiON BATTERY.=20

(The Other) Len
Fairfield, CA, USA
1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031
        221,392 miles=20


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys=20
  To: 'Healeys'=20
  Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 9:51 AM
  Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey related batteries issue


  Some free advice would be much appreciated=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.

  I am in France, so out of touch with my normal garages/suppliers etc =
etc=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6Thus more out of touch than usual.

  So, my brother-in-law has bought an electric scooter. A fine looking =
big thing that reminds me of the Honda Spacey that my wife occasionally =
used about 25 years ago. A two seater.

  This thing is two years old, +/-, so let=E2=80=99s say that the =
batteries are 30 months old.=20

  He bought the bike for =E2=82=AC1 so it was hardly a great investment. =
(Delivery cost him an expensive bottle of red!).

  The batteries seem to be quite dead, useless. I=E2=80=99d call that =
very odd. Apparently the PO was a bit of an ass and didn=E2=80=99t look =
after bike or batteries at all well.

  Nevertheless, stone dead so soon?

  I seem to recall a discussion on this list some years back that =
pertained to similar batteries. Are they dead or merely sleeping?? =
Plugging in the charger does nothing. Is there not something clever that =
one can do to jolt these things back to life?=20

  A new set of batteries is +/-=E2=82=AC1000:00 which seems a bit =
disproportionate in the circs?

  Any ideas would be gratefully received=E2=80=A6..

  Thanks,

  Simon



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<DIV>Simon:&nbsp; The most commented upon answer to the question of =
charging a=20
dead battery has had to do with the Optima battery.&nbsp; I have been =
told by a=20
sales person that they cannot be recharged when dead.&nbsp; Others have =
said,=20
Yes, they can.&nbsp; The Optima batteries use an advanced form of AGM =
(Absorbent=20
Glass Mat) technology called Spiralcell.&nbsp;&nbsp;This absorbent glass =
mat=20
holds acid in place by absorbing it like a sponge.&nbsp; =
The&nbsp;process for=20
bring a dead battery back to life involves connecting a good battery in =
parallel=20
with the dead battery.&nbsp; This sends a message to the charger that =
there is a=20
battery that needs charging.&nbsp; After the&nbsp;dead battery reaches a =
few=20
volts of charge, the good battery can be disconnected and the charger =
should=20
continue charging.&nbsp;&nbsp;I MAKE NO CLAIM THAT THIS PROCEDURE WOULD =
OR WOULD=20
NOT WORK ON AN LiON&nbsp;BATTERY.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>(The Other) Len<BR>Fairfield, CA, USA<BR>1967 AH 3000 MkIII,=20
HBJ8L39031</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 221,392 =
miles&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Simon=20
  Lachlan via Healeys</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>'Healeys'</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 10, 2020 =
9:51=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Healeys] Non-Healey =
related=20
  batteries issue</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DWordSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Some free advice would be much=20
appreciated=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.<o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>I am in France, so out of touch with my normal=20
  garages/suppliers etc etc=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6Thus more out of touch than =
usual.<o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>So, my brother-in-law has bought an electric =
scooter. A=20
  fine looking big thing that reminds me of the Honda Spacey that my =
wife=20
  occasionally used about 25 years ago. A two seater.<o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>This thing is two years old, +/-, so =
let=E2=80=99s say that the=20
  batteries are 30 months old. <o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>He bought the bike for =E2=82=AC1 so it was =
hardly a great=20
  investment. (Delivery cost him an expensive bottle of =
red!).<o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>The batteries seem to be quite dead, useless. =
I=E2=80=99d call that=20
  very odd. Apparently the PO was a bit of an ass and didn=E2=80=99t =
look after bike or=20
  batteries at all well.<o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Nevertheless, stone dead so soon?<o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>I seem to recall a discussion on this list some =
years back=20
  that pertained to similar batteries. Are they dead or merely =
sleeping??=20
  Plugging in the charger does nothing. Is there not something clever =
that one=20
  can do to jolt these things back to life? <o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>A new set of batteries is +/-=E2=82=AC1000:00 =
which seems a bit=20
  disproportionate in the circs?<o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Any ideas would be gratefully =
received=E2=80=A6..<o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Simon<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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