healeys
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [Healeys] Mystery Noise

To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery Noise
From: "N.S. Bennett via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:11:40 -0600
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: healeys@autox.team.net
References: <mailman.4.1597946402.27488.healeys@autox.team.net>
--===============0657714763671382855==

--0000000000002a765905ad54bbec

Are all your belts in good shape and of the proper tension?

Sounds like a weird question but I asked based on experience with my former
Sprite with an extremely similar noise. Long story short, the fan belt
wasn't the proper tension.

Good luck!
Nate B.
'66 BJ8

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 12:00 PM <healeys-request@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Send Healeys mailing list submissions to
>         healeys@autox.team.net
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>         http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>         healeys-request@autox.team.net
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>         healeys-owner@autox.team.net
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..."
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Mystery noise (Roger Grace)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
> To: "'healeylist'" <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:27:01 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise
> AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.
> Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was
> something simple !
>
> Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind
> and engine
> noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust
> noise.
> Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at
> prop shaft speed.
>
> At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.
> So changed out the R wheel bearing.
> No improvement
>
> Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.
> So changed out both universals.
> Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.
> No improvement.
>
> Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there
> was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one.
>
> So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but
> still the pulsating noise while coasting in N.
>
> Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and
> cut engine. Tunnel cover off.
>
> Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a
> rear wheel by hand or with an e motor.
>
> Noise does appear to come from transmission.
>
> To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't
> appear to be coming from diff area.
> Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia
> of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing.
>
> About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from
> Moss ... ?) in the OD.
> OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual
> noises.
>
> The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent
> with a bearing failure ?
>
> Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a
> bad gear tooth etc.
> OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there.
> Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious.
> So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?
> Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft
> external to gearbox ?
> or half shaft ?
>
> Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us.
> Tkx
> rg
> _______________________________________________
> Healeys mailing list
> Healeys@autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
> archives:  http://autox.team.net/archive
>
>

--0000000000002a765905ad54bbec
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Are all your belts in good shape and of the proper t=
ension?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Sounds like a we=
ird question but I asked based on experience with my former Sprite with an =
extremely similar noise. Long story short, the fan belt wasn&#39;t the prop=
er tension.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Good l=
uck!</div><div dir=3D"auto">Nate B.</div><div dir=3D"auto">&#39;66 BJ8<br><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
attr">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 12:00 PM  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-request=
@autox.team.net">healeys-request@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Healeys mailing list submissions to<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<br>
To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/listin=
fo/healeys" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.te=
am.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br>
or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:healeys-request@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys-request@autox.team.net</a><=
br>
<br>
You can reach the person managing the list at<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:healeys-owner@autox.team.net"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys-owner@autox.team.net</a><br>
<br>
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
than &quot;Re: Contents of Healeys digest...&quot;<br>
Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A01. Mystery noise (Roger Grace)<br>
<br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From:=C2=A0Roger Gra=
ce &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noref=
errer">roggrace@telus.net</a>&gt;<br>To:=C2=A0&quot;&#39;healeylist&#39;&qu=
ot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>Cc:=C2=A0<br>Bcc:=C2=A0<br>Da=
te:=C2=A0Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:27:01 -0600 (MDT)<br>Subject:=C2=A0[Healeys] M=
ystery noise<br><div><div><div>AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that =
may or may not be serious.</div><div>Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnec=
essarily and then to find it was something simple !<br></div><div>=C2=A0</d=
iv><div>Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too mu=
ch wind and engine <br>noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minim=
ize engine and exhaust noise.</div><div>Noise is pulsating - like a tire wi=
th a bad spot but seems to be at <br>prop shaft speed.</div><div>=C2=A0</di=
v><div>At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.</div><d=
iv>So changed out the R wheel bearing.</div><div>No improvement</div><div>=
=C2=A0</div><div>Then while looking below noted that universals had some pl=
ay.</div><div>So changed out both universals.</div><div>Rear brakes not dra=
gging and no binding of wheels.</div><div>No improvement.</div><div>=C2=A0<=
/div><div>Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was t=
hat there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings=
. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N.</div><div>=C2=
=A0</div><div>Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shi=
ft to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Able=
 to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wh=
eel by hand or with an e motor.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Noise does app=
ear to come from transmission.<br></div><div><div><br></div><div>To verify =
is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn&#39;t appear to b=
e coming from diff area.<br></div><div>Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate =
diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pul=
sing.</div></div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>About 5k miles ago I changed out the=
 larger OD front bearing (sourced from <br>Moss ... ?) in the OD.</div><div=
>OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual <br>noi=
ses.</div><div><br></div><div>The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise ba=
ffles me and not consistent <br>with a bearing failure ?</div><div><br></di=
v><div>Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is n=
ot a bad gear tooth etc.<br></div><div>OD not engaged so it is locked so no=
t likely there.<br></div><div>Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection =
- nothing obvious.<br></div><div>So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear=
 bearing ?</div><div>Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probabl=
y on main shaft external to gearbox ?<br></div><div>or half shaft ?<br></di=
v><div><br></div>Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experience=
d among us.<div>Tkx </div><div>rg<br></div></div></div>____________________=
___________________________<br>
Healeys mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferr=
er">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys"; rel=3D"noreferre=
r noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/heal=
eys</a><br>
<br>
archives:=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive"; rel=3D"noreferrer=
 noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div></div></div>

--0000000000002a765905ad54bbec--

--===============0657714763671382855==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

_______________________________________________

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive

Healeys@autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys



--===============0657714763671382855==--

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>