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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel pump
From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 09:01:53 +0200
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Most likely an SU AUF301/303/305 pump is fitted as original, the 
Burlen/SU AZX1308 is the equivalent modern replacement. It is very 
unlikely that the pump is scrap. These pumps are imminently rebuildable. 
Probably the points are dirty/burned/worn and need replacement. A 
problem that arises when the car is used sparingly. Replacing the points 
is a simple operation that can be done in about an hour at home using 
basic tools and some feeler gauges..

If a double ended pump is used both ends work simultaneously. If one end 
stops the other end will continue more or less as a back up. This is a 
bit of a problem as you will not normally notice one end stopping.

Even with a new SU pump you often encounter that it does not work 
initially and that you have to remove the cap to clean the points using 
some flower paper.

There are electronic versions but apparently reliability is said to be 
an issue.


Kees Oudesluijs




Op 16-9-2020 om 01:13 schreef Fred Wescoe:
> Listers,
>
> I was out for a long drive in the mountains this afternoon and on an 
> uphill grade, the car lost power and as I pulled over on a pull off, 
> the engine died.  I sat in the car for a couple of minutes trying to 
> restart it.  I waited until traffic was past me and turned the key but 
> did not hear the ticking of the fuel pump.  I waited several minutes, 
> tried again but no luck.
>
> I called AAA and they picked me and the car up for the ride home.  At 
> home, off the flatbed, still no ticking.  So, I am thinking the fuel 
> pump is dead.
>
> Looking at the Moss site, they list an early and a late BJ8 pump.  The 
> Moss tech couldn't tell me which I am.  My car number is 29009.  Am I 
> an early or late pump?  Also, if I switch to the double ended pump, do 
> both ends work at the same time or is one end a backup for the other 
> end?  If one end failed would the other end provide fuel in the normal 
> manner and save me?
>
> Should I simply go with whichever single pump is for my car and then 
> install a backup pump?
>
> Just as an important aside, AAA said covid regulations prohibited me 
> from riding in the tow truck cab with the driver.  I was somewhat 
> amazed at this but AAA offered to transfer me to the nearest car 
> rental place as a service.  I made my call but my ride didn't arrive 
> before the truck driver (she was in the middle of a haircut so you 
> know where that got me).  The driver was very nice about the whole 
> thing and did allow me in the cab with him (I wore my mask).
>
> I will start investigating the source of the pump problem tomorrow.
>
> Thanks for all input on this one,
>
> Fred
>
> 66 BJ8 (new or late)
>
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    <p>Most likely an SU AUF301/303/305 pump is fitted as original, the
      Burlen/SU AZX1308 is the equivalent modern replacement. It is very
      unlikely that the pump is scrap. These pumps are imminently
      rebuildable. Probably the points are dirty/burned/worn and need
      replacement. A problem that arises when the car is used sparingly.
      Replacing the points is a simple operation that can be done in
      about an hour at home using basic tools and some feeler gauges..</p>
    <p>If a double ended pump is used both ends work simultaneously. If
      one end stops the other end will continue more or less as a back
      up. This is a bit of a problem as you will not normally notice one
      end stopping.</p>
    <p>Even with a new SU pump you often encounter that it does not work
      initially and that you have to remove the cap to clean the points
      using some flower paper. <br>
    </p>
    <p>There are electronic versions but apparently reliability is said
      to be an issue.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 16-9-2020 om 01:13 schreef Fred
      Wescoe:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Listers,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I was out for a long drive in the mountains this afternoon
          and on an uphill grade, the car lost power and as I pulled
          over on a pull off, the engine died.  I sat in the car for a
          couple of minutes trying to restart it.  I waited until
          traffic was past me and turned the key but did not hear the
          ticking of the fuel pump.  I waited several minutes, tried
          again but no luck.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I called AAA and they picked me and the car up for the ride
          home.  At home, off the flatbed, still no ticking.  So, I am
          thinking the fuel pump is dead.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Looking at the Moss site, they list an early and a late BJ8
          pump.  The Moss tech couldn't tell me which I am.  My car
          number is 29009.  Am I an early or late pump?  Also, if I
          switch to the double ended pump, do both ends work at the same
          time or is one end a backup for the other end?  If one end
          failed would the other end provide fuel in the normal manner
          and save me?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Should I simply go with whichever single pump is for my car
          and then install a backup pump? </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Just as an important aside, AAA said covid regulations
          prohibited me from riding in the tow truck cab with the
          driver.  I was somewhat amazed at this but AAA offered to
          transfer me to the nearest car rental place as a service.  I
          made my call but my ride didn't arrive before the truck driver
          (she was in the middle of a haircut so you know where that got
          me).  The driver was very nice about the whole thing and did
          allow me in the cab with him (I wore my mask).</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I will start investigating the source of the pump problem
          tomorrow.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Thanks for all input on this one,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Fred </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>66 BJ8 (new or late)</div>
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