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Re: [Healeys] BN2 Transmission HELP!!!!

To: Charles Schott <schottc@knology.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN2 Transmission HELP!!!!
From: Michael Salter via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 20:44:40 -0400
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Yes I  encountered exactly that problem when trying, at very short notice,
to rebuild 6a 100S gearbox after the owner had trashed his as a consequence
of his TERRIBLE driving skills. He did the same thing again before selling
the  "S".
I didn't have a BN2 gearbox input shaft (the 100S gearbox internals are the
same as BN2) but I had a couple of 100/6 type.
Discovered that it was only the pilot bush spigot shaft that was longer and
simply cut about 1/2" (as I recall) off with a cut off wheel and all was
good to go.

M

On Wed., Sep. 16, 2020, 8:30 p.m. Charles Schott, <schottc@knology.net>
wrote:

> I'm restoring a BN2? for a club member along with the BN1 that I'm doing
> for myself. His project is a story in itself, but the latest challenge is
> getting the transmission bolted to the engine. Normally it's an easy job,
> but in his case, he's buying parts for different sources in order to make a
> complete car.
>
> He had the front of his chassis cut off in preparation of installing a
> Corvette V8. All those parts were scrapped before he was convinced to take
> it back to original. That's when I stepped in.
>
> He bought a four cylinder engine from Healey Surgeons and a side shift
> transmission from a guy in California, the same guy that sold him the BN2
> chassis. When I tried to install the transmission, the bell housing had a
> different bolt pattern since it was for a six cylinder engine. He then got
> the correct bell housing, but now the trans still won't bolt up because the
> first motion shaft is too long (see attached sketch). The distance between
> the trans and the engine is approximately 8 3/4" and the width of the bell
> housing is 8 5/16", a difference of 7/16". At this point, I'm tempted to
> cut off a half inch off of the shaft.
>
> Has anyone experience with this and can you recommend a better solution?
> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Charlie
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Steven Kingsbury via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *To: *"Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> *Cc: *healeys@autox.team.net
> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 16, 2020 5:21:30 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Water Pump Question
>
> Again, the list makes my day!! Thank you all for the responses and the
> knowledge. I will continue with my quest to get this car back on the road!
> Steven Kingsbury
> BN1
>
> On September 16, 2020 at 2:44 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Steven, that hole is as it should be. It is the drain for the water
> pump seal. If coolant starts coming out of there the pump needs to be
> rebuilt.
> The grease will be leakage from the bearings which have most likely been
> over greased.
>
> M
>
> On Wed., Sep. 16, 2020, 5:04 p.m. Steven Kingsbury via Healeys, <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>>    I am in the process of putting my engine back together and upon
>> cleaning the water pump, I found the bottom of the pump to be thick with
>> what appeared to be grease. As I cleaned the grease away I found a hole at
>> the bottom of the housing. Is this normal? I have a 1955 BN1 and I have to
>> admit, I have never looked at the bottom of a 100 water pump.
>>    Was there once a grease fitting there? Are all of them open like this?
>> I'm cleaning it to repaint and reinstall, but I'm a bit concerned and need
>> the wisdom of the list to relieve my tension.
>>    Thanks in advance guys,
>> Steven Kingsbury
>> BN1
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Yes I=C2=A0 encountered exactly that problem when trying,=
 at very short notice, to rebuild 6a 100S gearbox after the owner had trash=
ed his as a consequence of his TERRIBLE driving skills. He did the same thi=
ng again before selling the=C2=A0 &quot;S&quot;.<div dir=3D"auto">I didn&#3=
9;t have a BN2 gearbox input shaft (the 100S gearbox internals are the same=
 as BN2) but I had a couple of 100/6 type.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Discovere=
d that it was only the pilot bush spigot shaft that was longer and simply c=
ut about 1/2&quot; (as I recall) off with a cut off wheel and all was good =
to go.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed., S=
ep. 16, 2020, 8:30 p.m. Charles Schott, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:schottc@knolo=
gy.net">schottc@knology.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif=
;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div>I&#39;m restoring a BN2? for a club mem=
ber along with the BN1 that I&#39;m doing for myself. His project is a stor=
y in itself, but the latest challenge is getting the transmission bolted to=
 the engine. Normally it&#39;s an easy job, but in his case, he&#39;s buyin=
g parts for different sources in order to make a complete car.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>He had the front of his chassis cut off in preparation of inst=
alling a Corvette V8. All those parts were scrapped before he was convinced=
 to take it back to original. That&#39;s when I stepped in.=C2=A0</div><div=
><br></div><div>He bought a four cylinder engine from Healey Surgeons and a=
 side shift transmission from a guy in California, the same guy that sold h=
im the BN2 chassis. When I tried to install the transmission, the bell hous=
ing had a different bolt pattern since it was for a six cylinder engine. He=
 then got the correct bell housing, but now the trans still won&#39;t bolt =
up because the first motion shaft is too long (see attached sketch). The di=
stance between the trans and the engine is approximately 8 3/4&quot; and th=
e width of the bell housing is 8 5/16&quot;, a difference of 7/16&quot;. At=
 this point, I&#39;m tempted to cut off a half inch off of the shaft.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Has anyone experience with this and can you recommend a=
 better solution?=C2=A0 HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</div><div><br></div><div>Regard=
s,</div><div><br></div><div>Charlie</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"m_2759517=
829592758994zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:n=
ormal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size=
:12pt"><b>From: </b>&quot;Steven Kingsbury via Healeys&quot; &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healey=
s@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>To: </b>&quot;Michael Salter&quot; &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">=
michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a=
><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 16, 2020 5:21:30 PM<br><b>Subject: <=
/b>Re: [Healeys] Water Pump Question<br><div><br></div><div>Again, the list=
 makes my day!! Thank you all for the responses and the knowledge. I will c=
ontinue with my quest to get this car back on the road!</div><div>Steven Ki=
ngsbury</div><div>BN1</div><div><br>On September 16, 2020 at 2:44 PM, Micha=
el Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><div><br></div=
></div><div><blockquote><div><div dir=3D"auto">Hi Steven, that hole is as i=
t should be. It is the drain for the water pump seal. If coolant starts com=
ing out of there the pump needs to be rebuilt.<div dir=3D"auto">The grease =
will be leakage from the bearings which have most likely been over greased.=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed., Sep. 16=
, 2020, 5:04 p.m. Steven Kingsbury via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:heale=
ys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.=
net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0I am in the process of putting my engine back together and upon=
 cleaning the water pump, I found the bottom of the pump to be thick with w=
hat appeared to be grease. As I cleaned the grease away I found a hole at t=
he bottom of the housing. Is this normal? I have a 1955 BN1 and I have to a=
dmit, I have never looked at the bottom of a 100 water pump.=C2=A0</div><di=
v>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Was there once a grease fitting there? Are all of them =
open like this? I&#39;m cleaning it to repaint and reinstall, but I&#39;m a=
 bit concerned and need the wisdom of the list to relieve my tension.</div>=
<div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Thanks in advance guys,</div><div>Steven Kingsbury</=
div><div>BN1</div><div><br></div><div></div></div>_________________________=
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