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Re: [Healeys] BN2 Transmission HELP!!!!

To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN2 Transmission HELP!!!!
From: john harper via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 16:54:35 +0100
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Steve

Have you considered some sort of spacer plate and longer bolts?

On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 16:48, Michael Salter via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Yes I  encountered exactly that problem when trying, at very short notice,
> to rebuild 6a 100S gearbox after the owner had trashed his as a consequence
> of his TERRIBLE driving skills. He did the same thing again before selling
> the  "S".
> I didn't have a BN2 gearbox input shaft (the 100S gearbox internals are
> the same as BN2) but I had a couple of 100/6 type.
> Discovered that it was only the pilot bush spigot shaft that was longer
> and simply cut about 1/2" (as I recall) off with a cut off wheel and all
> was good to go.
>
> M
>
> On Wed., Sep. 16, 2020, 8:30 p.m. Charles Schott, <schottc@knology.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm restoring a BN2? for a club member along with the BN1 that I'm doing
>> for myself. His project is a story in itself, but the latest challenge is
>> getting the transmission bolted to the engine. Normally it's an easy job,
>> but in his case, he's buying parts for different sources in order to make a
>> complete car.
>>
>> He had the front of his chassis cut off in preparation of installing a
>> Corvette V8. All those parts were scrapped before he was convinced to take
>> it back to original. That's when I stepped in.
>>
>> He bought a four cylinder engine from Healey Surgeons and a side shift
>> transmission from a guy in California, the same guy that sold him the BN2
>> chassis. When I tried to install the transmission, the bell housing had a
>> different bolt pattern since it was for a six cylinder engine. He then got
>> the correct bell housing, but now the trans still won't bolt up because the
>> first motion shaft is too long (see attached sketch). The distance between
>> the trans and the engine is approximately 8 3/4" and the width of the bell
>> housing is 8 5/16", a difference of 7/16". At this point, I'm tempted to
>> cut off a half inch off of the shaft.
>>
>> Has anyone experience with this and can you recommend a better solution?
>> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Steven Kingsbury via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> *To: *"Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
>> *Cc: *healeys@autox.team.net
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 16, 2020 5:21:30 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Water Pump Question
>>
>> Again, the list makes my day!! Thank you all for the responses and the
>> knowledge. I will continue with my quest to get this car back on the road!
>> Steven Kingsbury
>> BN1
>>
>> On September 16, 2020 at 2:44 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steven, that hole is as it should be. It is the drain for the water
>> pump seal. If coolant starts coming out of there the pump needs to be
>> rebuilt.
>> The grease will be leakage from the bearings which have most likely been
>> over greased.
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Wed., Sep. 16, 2020, 5:04 p.m. Steven Kingsbury via Healeys, <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>>    I am in the process of putting my engine back together and upon
>>> cleaning the water pump, I found the bottom of the pump to be thick with
>>> what appeared to be grease. As I cleaned the grease away I found a hole at
>>> the bottom of the housing. Is this normal? I have a 1955 BN1 and I have to
>>> admit, I have never looked at the bottom of a 100 water pump.
>>>    Was there once a grease fitting there? Are all of them open like
>>> this? I'm cleaning it to repaint and reinstall, but I'm a bit concerned and
>>> need the wisdom of the list to relieve my tension.
>>>    Thanks in advance guys,
>>> Steven Kingsbury
>>> BN1
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Steve<div><br></div><div>Have you considered=C2=A0some sor=
t of spacer=C2=A0plate and longer bolts?</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 16:48,=
 Michael Salter via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>h=
ealeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Yes I=C2=A0 encountered exactly that=
 problem when trying, at very short notice, to rebuild 6a 100S gearbox afte=
r the owner had trashed his as a consequence of his TERRIBLE driving skills=
. He did the same thing again before selling the=C2=A0 &quot;S&quot;.<div d=
ir=3D"auto">I didn&#39;t have a BN2 gearbox input shaft (the 100S gearbox i=
nternals are the same as BN2) but I had a couple of 100/6 type.</div><div d=
ir=3D"auto">Discovered that it was only the pilot bush spigot shaft that wa=
s longer and simply cut about 1/2&quot; (as I recall) off with a cut off wh=
eel and all was good to go.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au=
to">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Wed., Sep. 16, 2020, 8:30 p.m. Charles Schott, &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:schottc@knology.net"; target=3D"_blank">schottc@knology.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div=
 style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,time=
s,serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div>I&#39;m restoring a BN2? for =
a club member along with the BN1 that I&#39;m doing for myself. His project=
 is a story in itself, but the latest challenge is getting the transmission=
 bolted to the engine. Normally it&#39;s an easy job, but in his case, he&#=
39;s buying parts for different sources in order to make a complete car.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>He had the front of his chassis cut off in preparati=
on of installing a Corvette V8. All those parts were scrapped before he was=
 convinced to take it back to original. That&#39;s when I stepped in.=C2=A0=
</div><div><br></div><div>He bought a four cylinder engine from Healey Surg=
eons and a side shift transmission from a guy in California, the same guy t=
hat sold him the BN2 chassis. When I tried to install the transmission, the=
 bell housing had a different bolt pattern since it was for a six cylinder =
engine. He then got the correct bell housing, but now the trans still won&#=
39;t bolt up because the first motion shaft is too long (see attached sketc=
h). The distance between the trans and the engine is approximately 8 3/4&qu=
ot; and the width of the bell housing is 8 5/16&quot;, a difference of 7/16=
&quot;. At this point, I&#39;m tempted to cut off a half inch off of the sh=
aft.</div><div><br></div><div>Has anyone experience with this and can you r=
ecommend a better solution?=C2=A0 HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</div><div><br></div><=
div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Charlie</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D=
"gmail-m_-1533410794222255648m_2759517829592758994zwchr"><div style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0);font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font=
-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><b>From: </b>&quot;Steve=
n Kingsbury via Healeys&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>=
To: </b>&quot;Michael Salter&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmai=
l.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
<br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer"=
 target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, Se=
ptember 16, 2020 5:21:30 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Water Pump Que=
stion<br><div><br></div><div>Again, the list makes my day!! Thank you all f=
or the responses and the knowledge. I will continue with my quest to get th=
is car back on the road!</div><div>Steven Kingsbury</div><div>BN1</div><div=
><br>On September 16, 2020 at 2:44 PM, Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:michaelsalter@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalte=
r@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><div><br></div></div><div><blockquote><div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">Hi Steven, that hole is as it should be. It is the drain fo=
r the water pump seal. If coolant starts coming out of there the pump needs=
 to be rebuilt.<div dir=3D"auto">The grease will be leakage from the bearin=
gs which have most likely been over greased.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed., Sep. 16, 2020, 5:04 p.m. Steven King=
sbury via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0I am in the process of putting my engine back together and upon cleaning=
 the water pump, I found the bottom of the pump to be thick with what appea=
red to be grease. As I cleaned the grease away I found a hole at the bottom=
 of the housing. Is this normal? I have a 1955 BN1 and I have to admit, I h=
ave never looked at the bottom of a 100 water pump.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0Was there once a grease fitting there? Are all of them open lik=
e this? I&#39;m cleaning it to repaint and reinstall, but I&#39;m a bit con=
cerned and need the wisdom of the list to relieve my tension.</div><div>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Thanks in advance guys,</div><div>Steven Kingsbury</div><div=
>BN1</div><div><br></div><div></div></div>_________________________________=
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