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I got an aftermarket fuel tank for my BN2 from the guy in SoCal who,
AFAIK, has since retired. The tank overall was OK quality, but the
sender flange was slightly warped, and I couldn't get a good seal and,
yes, I tried the silicone, ribbed-for-pleasure seal, which leaked. I
ended up stacking two cork O-rings--longer screws required--that I had
put a thin smear of the Permatex sealant I recommended earlier on (all
sides). Job done, as Edd would say.
On 1/2/2021 8:24 AM, rfbegani@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi Listners:
>
> 10-32X3/8 PHILLIPS PAN HEAD SEAL SCREW WITH SILICONE O-RING
>
> Those screws are no longer available at that site, however, Amazon has
> them at a higher price. I will try them along with Loctite to see if
> it will stop the leakage as I Installed the silicone gasket last year.
> Â Meanwhile, will try to remember not to fill to the top of the tank.
>
> Bob Begani
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *John Spaur
> *Sent:* Friday, January 1, 2021 8:51 PM
> *To:* 'Bob Spidell' <bspidell@comcast.net>
> *Cc:* 'Healey List' <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Fuel sender leak
>
> I used Loctite eight years ago and it seems to have held up well. I
> also used special screws with a built in gasket. Not sure if the link
> below is where I bought them but they work well. I may have found them
> at the Olander Company.
>
> https://www.biscoind.com/zago-ms3212-31/p?idsku=30583&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsMTo9Y387QIVHAJMCh3gywYVEAQYAyABEgK1OPD_BwE
>
> <https://www.biscoind.com/zago-ms3212-31/p?idsku=30583&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsMTo9Y387QIVHAJMCh3gywYVEAQYAyABEgK1OPD_BwE>
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> *Sent:* Friday, January 1, 2021 9:58 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Fuel sender leak
>
> FWIW, I occasionally--these days, previously often--filled my BJ8's
> tank within a couple inches of the filler hole; esp. when I know I'm
> facing a long stretch with no gas stations. For example, it's over 200
> miles from Caliente, NV to Tonopah, NV with a medium-sized mountain
> range in between and no gas. I once shut off my engine and coasted for
> a few miles on the downslope when I was running low into Tonopah; and
> once, some Jeepers arrived at Rachel, NV--which at one time had some
> regular--begging for gas and offering to 'pay anything' for a few
> gallons. I'm not recommending the practice, but you do what you have
> to do.
>
> If the smell is indeed coming through the sleeve, I believe green
> threadlocker ('Locktite') is meant to be used post-installation of
> fasteners, as it supposedly weeps into tiny gaps. I have no idea how
> well it would hold up to today's pseudo-gasoline, though.
>
> On 1/1/2021 9:10 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> John,
>
> If the white plastic sleeve is is glued in place it is problematic
> to try to remove it a try to seal it. As you probably already
> know, if the fuel is reaching the elevation of the plastic sleeve
> then it is above the top of the fuel tank & that means that every
> thing associated with the tank is under positive pressure. Any
> small leak will be apparent due to the smell of fuel. That would
> also include the rubber sleeve connecting the tank to the fuel
> filler tube especially if the fuel tank is filled so that there is
> standing fuel in the filler tube & then the car is parked. If the
> leak is small enough, there might not be any fuel visible, only
> vapor & the smell. You might try parking the car for a few days
> with the fuel level about 3/4 full & see if you can still smell fuel.
>
> Gary Hodson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Spaur <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:28 pm
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel sender leak
>
> Here are some photos of a new Moss after-market sender showing the
> sleeve.
> It seems to be glued in place.
>
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I got an aftermarket fuel tank for my BN2 from the guy in SoCal who,
AFAIK, has since retired. The tank overall was OK quality, but the
sender flange was slightly warped, and I couldn't get a good seal
and, yes, I tried the silicone, ribbed-for-pleasure seal, which
leaked. I ended up stacking two cork O-rings--longer screws
required--that I had put a thin smear of the Permatex sealant I
recommended earlier on (all sides). Job done, as Edd would say.<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/2/2021 8:24 AM, <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani@gmail.com</a>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#727273">10-32X3/8
PHILLIPS PAN HEAD SEAL SCREW WITH SILICONE
O-RING<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Those
screws are no longer available at that site, however, Amazon
has them at a higher price. I will try them along with
Loctite to see if it will stop the leakage as I Installed
the silicone gasket last year. Â Meanwhile, will try to
remember not to fill to the top of the tank.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Bob
Begani<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a>
<b>On
Behalf Of </b>John Spaur<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 1, 2021 8:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Bob Spidell' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";><bspidell@comcast.net></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Healey List' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Fuel sender
leak<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
used Loctite eight years ago and it seems to have held up
well. I also used special screws with a built in gasket. Not
sure if the link below is where I bought them but they work
well. I may have found them at the Olander
Company.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a
href="https://www.biscoind.com/zago-ms3212-31/p?idsku=30583&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsMTo9Y387QIVHAJMCh3gywYVEAQYAyABEgK1OPD_BwE";
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.biscoind.com/zago-ms3212-31/p?idsku=30583&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsMTo9Y387QIVHAJMCh3gywYVEAQYAyABEgK1OPD_BwE</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Healeys [<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 1, 2021 9:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Fuel sender
leak<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">FWIW, I
occasionally--these days, previously often--filled my BJ8's
tank within a couple inches of the filler hole; esp. when I
know I'm facing a long stretch with no gas stations. For
example, it's over 200 miles from Caliente, NV to Tonopah, NV
with a medium-sized mountain range in between and no gas. I
once shut off my engine and coasted for a few miles on the
downslope when I was running low into Tonopah; and once, some
Jeepers arrived at Rachel, NV--which at one time had some
regular--begging for gas and offering to 'pay anything' for a
few gallons. I'm not recommending the practice, but you do
what you have to do.<br>
<br>
If the smell is indeed coming through the sleeve, I believe
green threadlocker ('Locktite') is meant to be used
post-installation of fasteners, as it supposedly weeps into
tiny gaps. I have no idea how well it would hold up to today's
pseudo-gasoline, though.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/1/2021 9:10 AM, warthodson--- via
Healeys wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic
Sans MS";color:black">John, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic
Sans MS";color:black">If the white plastic sleeve
is is glued in place it is problematic to try to
remove it a try to seal it. As you probably already
know, if the fuel is reaching the elevation of the
plastic sleeve then it is above the top of the fuel
tank & that means that every thing associated with
the tank is under positive pressure. Any small leak
will be apparent due to the smell of fuel. That would
also include the rubber sleeve connecting the tank to
the fuel filler tube especially if the fuel tank is
filled so that there is standing fuel in the filler
tube & then the car is parked. If the leak is
small enough, there might not be any fuel visible,
only vapor & the smell. You might try parking the
car for a few days with the fuel level about 3/4 full
& see if you can still smell fuel.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";color:black">Gary Hodson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">-----Original
Message-----<br>
From: John Spaur <a
href="mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"><jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net></a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";
moz-do-not-send="true">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>;
'Bob Haskell' <a
href="mailto:rchaskell@earthlink.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"><rchaskell@earthlink.net></a>;
'Healey List' <a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br>
Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:28 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel sender
leak<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Here
are some photos of a new Moss after-market sender
showing the sleeve.<br>
It seems to be glued in place.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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