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Re: [Healeys] Rear Wheel Cylinder Retainers

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Wheel Cylinder Retainers
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 10:35:55 -0800
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Thanks, Hank; this is helpful (I'll hit the books tomorrow).

Still, it's unclear which clip goes on top; but, since #4 is 
curved/bowed, I think it's only possible that it goes under the flat 
plate (#2). The curve helps it get past the e-brake lever.

On 1/18/2021 10:11 AM, gradea1@charter.net wrote:
> Here is a good illustration of the position of each clip-the bend 
> creates pressure to hold it in place. Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
> From: "Bob Spidell"
> To: "Healeys"
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday January 18 2021 9:37:16AM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Wheel Cylinder Retainers
>
> I couldn't find any info in my BN2 workshop manual; maybe I missed it
> (I'll check again).
>
> On 1/18/2021 8:37 AM, m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca wrote:
> > I seem to recall it is clearly illustrated in the factory workshop 
> manual.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
> > Sent: January 18, 2021 10:20 AM
> > To: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: [Healeys] Rear Wheel Cylinder Retainers
> >
> > Listers,
> >
> > I've replaced a few rear wheel cylinders and have always wondered 
> about the
> > 'proper' orientation of the two U-shaped plates that retain the 
> cylinders.
> > One of the U-shaped plates is flat with a couple notches at the 
> 'top' of the
> > U--if it was oriented like the letter--and one has a couple 'tangs' 
> on top
> > that hook into the notches to retain the two pieces (which are 
> designed to
> > slide against the backplate to enable 'self-energizing' or servo 
> effect).
> > The piece with the tangs is usually slightly bowed and springy--at 
> least,
> > mine are and I don't think I've ever bought new--apparently to 
> spring load
> > the two pieces, which interlock, but it could have been bent during
> > re/assembly.
> >
> > My question is, does the notched, flat plate go against the brake 
> backplate,
> > or does the curved piece with the tangs go against the backplate? It 
> may be
> > that they can only be assembled in place in one way, and it seems 
> they would
> > function OK either way, but I've always installed them with the tanged,
> > curved piece against the backplate, as it seems the cylinder would slide
> > easier that way (I also put a little grease on the areas--cylinder and
> > backplate--that slide or are slid against).
> >
> > TIA,
> > Bob
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    Thanks, Hank; this is helpful (I'll hit the books tomorrow).<br>
    <br>
    Still, it's unclear which clip goes on top; but, since #4 is
    curved/bowed, I think it's only possible that it goes under the flat
    plate (#2). The curve helps it get past the e-brake lever.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/18/2021 10:11 AM,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:gradea1@charter.net";>gradea1@charter.net</a> wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:59e1f0db5271377817e68fe29247f9f948c09fdb@webmail">
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      Here is a good illustration of the position of each clip-the bend
      creates pressure to hold it in place. Hank<br>
      <br>
      <p>-----------------------------------------</p>
      From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell@comcast.net><br>
        To: "Healeys"<br>
        Cc: <br>
        Sent: Monday January 18 2021 9:37:16AM<br>
        Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Wheel Cylinder Retainers<br>
        <br>
        I couldn't find any info in my BN2 workshop manual; maybe I
        missed
        it<br>
        (I'll check again).<br>
        <br>
        On 1/18/2021 8:37 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca";>m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</a> wrote:<br>
        &gt; I seem to recall it is clearly illustrated in the factory
        workshop manual.<br>
        &gt;<br>
        &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
        &gt; From: Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
 On
        Behalf
        Of Bob Spidell<br>
        &gt; Sent: January 18, 2021 10:20 AM<br>
        &gt; To: Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
        &gt; Subject: [Healeys] Rear Wheel Cylinder Retainers<br>
        &gt;<br>
        &gt; Listers,<br>
        &gt;<br>
        &gt; I've replaced a few rear wheel cylinders and have always
        wondered about the<br>
        &gt; 'proper' orientation of the two U-shaped plates that retain
        the cylinders.<br>
        &gt; One of the U-shaped plates is flat with a couple notches at
        the 'top' of the<br>
        &gt; U--if it was oriented like the letter--and one has a couple
        'tangs' on top<br>
        &gt; that hook into the notches to retain the two pieces (which
        are
        designed to<br>
        &gt; slide against the backplate to enable 'self-energizing' or
        servo effect).<br>
        &gt; The piece with the tangs is usually slightly bowed and
        springy--at least,<br>
        &gt; mine are and I don't think I've ever bought new--apparently
        to
        spring load<br>
        &gt; the two pieces, which interlock, but it could have been
        bent
        during<br>
        &gt; re/assembly.<br>
        &gt;<br>
        &gt; My question is, does the notched, flat plate go against the
        brake backplate,<br>
        &gt; or does the curved piece with the tangs go against the
        backplate? It may be<br>
        &gt; that they can only be assembled in place in one way, and it
        seems they would<br>
        &gt; function OK either way, but I've always installed them with
        the tanged,<br>
        &gt; curved piece against the backplate, as it seems the
        cylinder
        would slide<br>
        &gt; easier that way (I also put a little grease on the
        areas--cylinder and<br>
        &gt; backplate--that slide or are slid against).<br>
        &gt;<br>
        &gt; TIA,<br>
        &gt; Bob<br>
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