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Re: [Healeys] Ebay - Bizarre

To: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ebay - Bizarre
From: Alan Seigrist via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 11:20:34 +0800
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Kees -

It was never an issue of the lack of delivery, but the attempt to hold back
refund in order to change rating.  Doesn't matter, they reported me to eBay
and now I'm no longer on eBay.  I also got a permanent ban from eBay.
You'd think I was President Trump or something!

Cheers,

Alan

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:53 PM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Alan,
>
> If an eBay purchase does not show up it hardly ever is a question of a
> dishonest seller, the parcel can be underway for months or very rarely can
> get lost. In such a case it is usual to contact the seller first *before*
> giving him a bad rating, so the seller can resend the article or give you a
> full refund which would deserve a positive rating!!
>
> Especially if you buy from Hong Kong or China (dirt cheap and often free
> shipping) it may take days or a few months before the item shows up at its
> destination. I always got a full refund if an item did not show up after a
> few months. However the item always showed up some time later so I paid the
> seller back again.
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
> Op 10-3-2021 om 03:27 schreef Alan Seigrist via Healeys:
>
> Bob -
>
> The bizarre thing is I believe the whole thing began with a mainland
> seller (who I purchased a small thing from) and they never delivered.  When
> they never delivered, I gave them a bad eBay rating.  That dishonest seller
> then asked that if I change my rating to good, they would refund my money.
> That request made me angry, so I reported the conversation to eBay that a
> seller was holding my refund ransom to change their rating to good.  Well,
> why would I change the rating to good to get my money back? So in effect I
> would give them a good rating for not delivering what they promised.  Crazy.
>
> Oh well, this is the internets.  Easy enough to just make a new account.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alan
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:11 AM Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't know.  Possible, they refused to give me a reason.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:06 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Alan,
>>>
>>> I believe you live in Hong Kong; could the recent actions by the CCP
>>> have instigated this?
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> On 3/9/2021 5:59 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:
>>> > All -
>>> >
>>> > Obviously I use ebay to purchase random parts here and there, Ebay
>>> > just cancelled my account after 18 years for no reason.  I've
>>> > contacted them, and they offer no explanation. Totally weird....
>>> >
>>> > Anyone else have this issue?
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > Alan
>>> >
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Kees -<div><br></div><div>It was never an issue of the lac=
k of delivery, but the attempt to hold back refund in order to change ratin=
g.=C2=A0 Doesn&#39;t matter, they reported me to eBay and now I&#39;m no lo=
nger on eBay.=C2=A0 I also got a permanent ban from eBay.=C2=A0 You&#39;d t=
hink I was President Trump or something!=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:53 =
PM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net=
">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    <p>Alan,</p>
    <p>If an eBay purchase does not show up it hardly ever is a question
      of a dishonest seller, the parcel can be underway for months or
      very rarely can get lost. In such a case it is usual to contact
      the seller first <u><i><b>before</b></i></u> giving him a bad
      rating, so the seller can resend the article or give you a full
      refund which would deserve a positive rating!! <br>
    </p>
    <p>Especially if you buy from Hong Kong or China (dirt cheap and
      often free shipping) it may take days or a few months before the
      item shows up at its destination. I always got a full refund if an
      item did not show up after a few months. However the item always
      showed up some time later so I paid the seller back again.</p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div>Op 10-3-2021 om 03:27 schreef Alan
      Seigrist via Healeys:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Bob -
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>The bizarre thing=C2=A0is I believe the whole thing began with=
 a
          mainland seller (who I purchased a small thing from) and they
          never delivered.=C2=A0 When they never delivered, I gave them a b=
ad
          eBay rating.=C2=A0 That dishonest seller then asked that if I
          change my rating to good, they would refund my money.=C2=A0 That
          request made me angry, so I reported the conversation to eBay
          that a seller was holding my refund ransom to change their
          rating to good.=C2=A0 Well, why would I change the rating to good
          to get my money back? So in effect I would give them a good
          rating for not delivering=C2=A0what they promised.=C2=A0 Crazy.</=
div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Oh well, this is the internets.=C2=A0 Easy enough to just make=
 a
          new account.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Cheers,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Alan</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:11
          AM Alan Seigrist &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir=3D"ltr">I don&#39;t know.=C2=A0 Possible, they refused t=
o give
            me a reason.</div>
          <br>
          <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
            <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at
              10:06 AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.n=
et" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Alan,<br>
              <br>
              I believe you live in Hong Kong; could the recent actions
              by the CCP <br>
              have instigated this?<br>
              <br>
              Bob<br>
              <br>
              On 3/9/2021 5:59 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:<br>
              &gt; All -<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Obviously I use ebay to purchase random parts here
              and there, Ebay <br>
              &gt; just cancelled my account after 18 years for no
              reason.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve <br>
              &gt; contacted them, and they offer no explanation.
              Totally weird....<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Anyone else have this issue?<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Cheers,<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Alan<br>
              &gt;<br>
              <br>
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