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Re: [Healeys] Rear brake adjustment

To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>, Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear brake adjustment
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 19:31:24 -0700
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I think centering the shoes with the brakes applied works well, but only 
with new/freshly turned drums and shoes. If the shoes aren't centered 
they will wear uneven, and lock up uneven.

The best idea I've come up with is to use a large caliper--not 
easy/cheap to find--and make sure the shoes are square to each other. If 
they are, they should be orthogonal to the backplate.

Bob

On 3/31/2021 10:58 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
> Obviously the quality of the felt being used is not satisfactory.  
> I've got a pair of BN1 rear brakes here that still have the felts in 
> place and are still greasy.
> I don't believe eliminating metat to metal is the intent ... just to 
> provide sufficient lubrication to eliminate squeaks.
>
> M
>
> On Wed., Mar. 31, 2021, 11:47 a.m. Roger Grace via Healeys, 
>
>     Bob,
>     Yes agree about the felt bushes. I assume that their only function
>     is to prevent metal to metal contact ?
>     So do the fibre tubes protrude slightly beyond the end of the pegs ?
>     Will try to locate something suitable.
>
>     Wonder how you adjust these pegs ?
>     There seems to be 3 different techniques:
>
>     The Moss method with chalk marks on the shoes.
>
>     The Salter method by adjusting in/out to each shoe edge then
>     setting to the mid point.
>
>     The usual  method - centering  the shoes (by stomping on the
>     brakes) then adjusting the peg to just make contact while shoes
>     are clamped.
>
>     I tend to favour the last method .... ?
>
>     Tkx
>     rg
>
>


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    I think centering the shoes with the brakes applied works well, but
    only with new/freshly turned drums and shoes. If the shoes aren't
    centered they will wear uneven, and lock up uneven.<br>
    <br>
    The best idea I've come up with is to use a large caliper--not
    easy/cheap to find--and make sure the shoes are square to each
    other. If they are, they should be orthogonal to the backplate.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/31/2021 10:58 AM, Michael Salter
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAB3i7LK9MQdNC1fk6T4p=CqSeZQ=a-qFfDbxg86nXC-kYZj7Aw@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="auto">Obviously the quality of the felt being used is
        not satisfactory.  I've got a pair of BN1 rear brakes here that
        still have the felts in place and are still greasy. 
        <div dir="auto">I don't believe eliminating metat to metal is
          the intent ... just to provide sufficient lubrication to
          eliminate squeaks.</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">M</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed., Mar. 31, 2021, 11:47
          a.m. Roger Grace via Healeys, &lt;<a
            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">
            <div>Bob,</div>
            <div>Yes agree about the felt bushes. I assume that their
              only function is to prevent metal to metal contact ?</div>
            <div>So do the fibre tubes protrude slightly beyond the end
              of the pegs ?</div>
            <div>Will try to locate something suitable.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Wonder how you adjust these pegs ?</div>
            <div>There seems to be 3 different techniques:</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>The Moss method with chalk marks on the shoes. <br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>The Salter method by adjusting in/out to each shoe edge
              then setting to the mid point.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>The usual  method - centering  the shoes (by stomping
              on the brakes) then adjusting the peg to just make contact
              while shoes are clamped.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>I tend to favour the last method .... ?<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Tkx</div>
            <div>rg<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <br>
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