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Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 or BN2
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I'm fairly certain that there was not a carry over of the old front guards =
on the BN2.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I will say that at a west coast meet many year=
s ago, the judges in Concours where having a hard time trying to figure out=
 why a 100 was sitting so oddly in the grass field. A view of each side of =
the car seemed to suggest a bent frame or something unusual. The owner had =
paid big bucks and lots of time to have the car restored so things should h=
ave been on track for a high point car.=C2=A0After some=C2=A0 (plenty) disc=
ussion it was a decided that an otherwise Gold level car had an early guard=
 on one side and the later BN2 guard on the other side. Needless to say the=
re were a few points deducted and a very dejected owner....At every car eve=
nt I attend since then, I walk around the 100's in attendance and compare t=
he front guards with the span of my hand..=C2=A0Perry


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From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
To: Perry Small <healeyguy@aol.com>
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Aug 8, 2021 8:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 or BN2

Perry--
Yes, I forgot that the presence or not of the sledge line is not a reliable=
 indicator
I wonder if any BN2's were built with the BN1 style front fender--with the =
smaller wheel opening and lower sledge?=C2=A0 is the location of the OD and=
 ignition/OD=C2=A0 switches more reliable an indicator?
Best-Michael Oritt
On Sun, Aug 8, 2021, 6:22 PM healeyguy--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:

Car # 228086, built 23Aug1955 as a BN2, does not have the body line (swedge=
 line) behind the rear tires.=C2=A0Perry


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From: Michael Oritt via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
To: Brian Drab <bgdrab@redzone.ca>
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Sent: Sun, Aug 8, 2021 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 or BN2

Brian--
My 12/54 car #222333 is definitely a BN1 so if the s/n you have is accurate=
 it should unquestionably be a BN1.There are a number of points of differen=
tiation between the two models, some of which would be rather expensive to =
fudge from an earlier BN1 to a BN2--is there=C2=A0a swedge line in the rear=
 fenders?
Best--Michael Oritt=C2=A0
On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 4:27 PM Brian Drab via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:

Further to the questions on the disc brake conversion, there is now a bit o=
f confusion about what model this 100 is.The VIN appears to be B222066. The=
 question is =E2=80=93 is =C2=A0it a BN1 or a BN2. Unfortunately there have=
 been some modifications to the car in it=E2=80=99s earlier years which rea=
lly cloud it=E2=80=99s true model.Brian DrabVancouver______________________=
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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I'm fai=
rly certain that there was not a carry over of the old front guards on the =
BN2.&nbsp;&nbsp;
<div>&nbsp;I will say that at a west coast meet many years ago, the judges =
in Concours where having a hard time trying to figure out why a 100 was sit=
ting so oddly in the grass field. A view of each side of the car seemed to =
suggest a bent frame or something unusual. The owner had paid big bucks and=
 lots of time to have the car restored so things should have been on track =
for a high point car.&nbsp;</div>

<div>After some&nbsp; (plenty) discussion it was a decided that an otherwis=
e Gold level car had an early guard on one side and the later BN2 guard on =
the other side. Needless to say there were a few points deducted and a very=
 dejected owner....</div>

<div>At every car event I attend since then, I walk around the 100's in att=
endance and compare the front guards with the span of my hand..&nbsp;</div>

<div>Perry<br>
<br>
<br>

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 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Michael Oritt &lt;michael.oritt@gmail.com&gt;<br>
To: Perry Small &lt;healeyguy@aol.com&gt;<br>
Cc: Austin Healey &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Aug 8, 2021 8:04 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 or BN2<br>
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<div>Perry--
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Yes, I forgot that the presence or not of the sledge line is not a rel=
iable indicator</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>I wonder if any BN2's were built with the BN1 style front fender--with=
 the smaller wheel opening and lower sledge?&nbsp; is the location of the O=
D and ignition/OD&nbsp; switches more reliable an indicator?</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Best-Michael Oritt</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1087902441gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Aug 8, 2021, 6:2=
2 PM healeyguy--- via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" s=
hape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" h=
ref=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:=
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order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Car # 22=
8086, built 23Aug1955 as a BN2, does not have the body line (swedge line) b=
ehind the rear tires.&nbsp;

<div>Perry<br clear=3D"none">
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<div style=3D"color:#3333ff;">Brian--</div>



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<div style=3D"color:#3333ff;">My 12/54 car #222333 is definitely a BN1 so i=
f the s/n you have is accurate it should unquestionably be a BN1.</div>



<div style=3D"color:#3333ff;">There are a number of points of differentiati=
on between the two models, some of which would be rather expensive to fudge=
 from an earlier BN1 to a BN2--is there&nbsp;a swedge line in the rear fend=
ers?</div>



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<div style=3D"color:#3333ff;">Best--Michael Oritt&nbsp;</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 4:27 PM Brian Drab via Healeys &lt;=
<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:he=
aleys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.n=
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<div>Further to the questions on the disc brake conversion, there is now a =
bit of confusion about what model this 100 is.<u></u><u></u></div>




<div>The VIN appears to be B222066. The question is =E2=80=93 is &nbsp;it a=
 BN1 or a BN2. Unfortunately there have been some modifications to the car =
in it=E2=80=99s earlier years which really cloud it=E2=80=99s true model.
<u></u><u></u></div>




<div>Brian Drab<u></u><u></u></div>




<div>Vancouver<u></u><u></u></div>


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