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Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray
From: Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 15:07:09 +1100
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Hello

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The removable bulkhead is a masterpiece of sheet aluminium joinery and =
the rear of the engine is a half inch short of the curved firewall. =
Having met Roger Menadue I can imagine him getting stuck into the =
firewall with a big hammer to make the engine fit.

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Best wishes

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Patrick

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From: gradea1@charter.net [mailto:gradea1@charter.net]=20
Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2021 2:49 PM
To: 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn'
Cc: 'healeys@autox.team.net'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray

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Patrick-such a handsome tunnel cover and bulkhead-there must be at least =
two cylinders in there! Hank

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From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys"=20
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Cc:=20
Sent: Monday November 15 2021 2:27:42PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray

G=E2=80=99day

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The standard fitting to Austin-Healeys is always interesting. As can be =
seen from the attached there is no ashtray fitted to the Austin-Healey =
100 BN3/1. The gearbox tunnel consists of five separate steel and =
aluminium pieces and when it was cobbled up by the DHMC they made no =
provision for it.

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Conversely with our Healey Saloon there are three ashtrays, two for the =
rear seat passengers and one for the front, but thankfully there are no =
cupholders.

=20

Hoo Roo

=20

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Henry =
G Leach via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2021 6:16 AM
To: 'kags@shaw.ca'
Cc: 'Healey List'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray

=20

The ash tray opening for replacement materials is arbitrary, but all =
Healeys starting with the early 100s (1953 with 2pc. tunnel)  (BJ carpet =
not open)  had the opening there-mostly for pipe smokers to chill their =
ash. (That's ash!)

=20

Pre-production Healeys used that spot for the overdrive switch, as seen =
on this prototype interior.  Now-a-days its mostly a coin holder thanks =
to current smoking laws. Hank

-----------------------------------------

From: "Earl Kagna via Healeys"
To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Cc: "Healey List"
Sent: Monday November 15 2021 9:06:21AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray

Simon =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99m pretty sure that all Healeys had ashtrays =
from the factory.

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At the changeover to the BJ8, the square hole in the center shift =
gearbox cover was omitted as the ashtray was now mounted into the =
console.  In addition, a couple of studs were molded into the fiberglass =
for a mounting bracket for the console.

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If you are getting a carpet as part of a kit, the ash tray hole will =
likely not be there =E2=80=93 they usually leave that to the installer.  =
Your call as to whether or not to fill the hole.  Personally I=E2=80=99d =
keep it =E2=80=93 for small stuff like =E2=80=98fuses and valve =
caps=E2=80=99.

=20

=20

Earl Kagna

Victoria BC

BJ8, BT7 tri-carb =E2=80=93 (center shift)

=20

=20

=20

=20

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Simon =
Lachlan via Healeys
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 3:27 AM
To: 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Ash Tray

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I determined, with your help, that I have an original tunnel cover for =
my BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre change box.

Some of you pointed out peculiarities concerning the ash tray fitting.

I=E2=80=99ll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet and, as these seem to =
be more or less bespoke, I=E2=80=99m wondering whether to keep the ash =
tray or fibre glass over the square hole.

Did all original tunnel covers come with a hole fitted for ash trays?

And thus some had the ash tray actually fitted and some had the hole =
carpeted over?

Or what?

Was the ash tray an optional extra which, in fact, was fitted to most =
cars. Like wire wheels=E2=80=A6..

Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray for spare =
fuses, valve caps and the like=E2=80=A6.

I=E2=80=99ll have to let the carpet people know one way or the other.

Simon

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Hello<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The =
removable bulkhead is a masterpiece of sheet aluminium joinery and the =
rear of the engine is a half inch short of the curved firewall. Having =
met Roger Menadue I can imagine him getting stuck into the firewall with =
a big hammer to make the engine fit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Best =
wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><=
div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
gradea1@charter.net [mailto:gradea1@charter.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> =
Tuesday, 16 November 2021 2:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Patrick &amp; Caroline =
Quinn'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'healeys@autox.team.net'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Ash Tray<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Patrick-such a handsome tunnel cover and =
bulkhead-there must be at least two cylinders in there! =
Hank<o:p></o:p></p><p>-----------------------------------------<o:p></o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>From: =
&quot;Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn via Healeys&quot; <br>To: =
healeys@autox.team.net<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Monday November 15 2021 =
2:27:42PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>G=E2=80=99day</span><o:p></o:p></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The standard fitting to =
Austin-Healeys is always interesting. As can be seen from the attached =
there is no ashtray fitted to the Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1. The gearbox =
tunnel consists of five separate steel and aluminium pieces and when it =
was cobbled up by the DHMC they made no provision for =
it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Conversely with our Healey Saloon =
there are three ashtrays, two for the rear seat passengers and one for =
the front, but thankfully there are no =
cupholders.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Hoo Roo</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Patrick =
Quinn</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Blue Mountains, =
Australia</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><=
div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US> </span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of</b> Henry G =
Leach via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 16 November 2021 6:16 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> 'kags@shaw.ca'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healey =
List'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Ash =
Tray</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The ash =
tray opening for replacement materials is arbitrary, but all Healeys =
starting with the early 100s (1953 with 2pc. tunnel)&nbsp; (BJ carpet =
not open)&nbsp; had the opening there-mostly for pipe smokers to chill =
their ash. (That's ash!)<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Pre-production =
Healeys used that spot for the overdrive switch, as seen on this =
prototype interior.&nbsp; Now-a-days its mostly a coin holder thanks to =
current smoking laws. =
Hank<o:p></o:p></p><p>-----------------------------------------<o:p></o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>From: &quot;Earl =
Kagna via Healeys&quot;<br>To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com<br>Cc: =
&quot;Healey List&quot;<br>Sent: Monday November 15 2021 =
9:06:21AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Simon =
=E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99m pretty sure that all Healeys had ashtrays from the =
factory.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>At the =
changeover to the BJ8, the square hole in the center shift gearbox cover =
was omitted as the ashtray was now mounted into the console.&nbsp; In =
addition, a couple of studs were molded into the fiberglass for a =
mounting bracket for the console.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If you are =
getting a carpet as part of a kit, the ash tray hole will likely not be =
there =E2=80=93 they usually leave that to the installer.&nbsp; Your =
call as to whether or not to fill the hole.&nbsp; Personally I=E2=80=99d =
keep it =E2=80=93 for small stuff like =E2=80=98fuses and valve =
caps=E2=80=99.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DFR>Earl Kagna</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DFR>Victoria BC</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>BJ8, BT7 =
tri-carb =E2=80=93 (center shift)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b>=
 Healeys &lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of</b> =
Simon Lachlan via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 15, 2021 3:27 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Healeys' =
&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Ash =
Tray<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I determined, with your help, that I have an original =
tunnel cover for my BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre change =
box.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Some of you pointed out peculiarities concerning the ash =
tray fitting.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I=E2=80=99ll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet and, as =
these seem to be more or less bespoke, I=E2=80=99m wondering whether to =
keep the ash tray or fibre glass over the square =
hole.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Did all original tunnel covers come with a hole fitted for =
ash trays?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>And thus some had the ash tray actually fitted and some had =
the hole carpeted over?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Or what?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Was the ash tray an optional extra which, in fact, was =
fitted to most cars. Like wire wheels=E2=80=A6..</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray =
for spare fuses, valve caps and the =
like=E2=80=A6.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I=E2=80=99ll have to let the carpet people know one way or =
the other.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Simon</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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