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Bob
The OD case can be damaged if effort is applied to withdraw the pump
without first removing the Non-return valve. If the case is damaged it is
very difficult to repair. How do I know this?
Regards
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 15:33, Bob Spidell via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Last time I replaced a clutch one of the disk springs (dampers?) was
> broken and, yes, this caused some judder.
>
> Glad you got your problems worked-out, Simon. I admire your tenacity.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 11/29/2021 4:53 AM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> Simon, so glad the clutch issue is behind you. You may recall from my
> clutch saga a few years ago that the replacement parts I received were th=
e
> issue, although in my case it was the clutch disc. So I think we must al=
l
> be wary of replacement clutches =E2=80=93 measure everything and compare =
old to
> new. I am told there are companies that will re-face a pressure plate.
> Perhaps this is a better option, although on a high mileage item, weakene=
d
> springs may be an issue. I have never run across that myself.
>
>
>
> So just get in and drive it!
>
>
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Simon Lachlan via Healeys
> *Sent:* November 29, 2021 7:32 AM
> *To:* 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Update on clutch woes
>
>
>
> I received a lot of help and advice with regard to the clutch problem on
> my MkII BT7 for which, again, many thanks.
>
> Here=E2=80=99s where we are:-
>
> 1) I replaced both master and slave cylinders and even converted the
> former to having an adjustable push rod which, mercifully, I did not have
> to use. No change.
>
> 2) I bled the system more times than I=E2=80=99ve hot dinners, as they sa=
y. No
> change.
>
> 3) I had the gearbox out and back 3 - or was it 4? =E2=80=93 times. Centr=
ing that
> thing to a nanomillimetere if there is such a thing. No change except to
> blood pressure.
>
> 4) I had fairly fruitless discussions with the supplier who assured me
> that =E2=80=9CNothing like this has happened before=E2=80=9D. No comment =
will be issued at
> this juncture as the lawyers say.
>
> 5) I gave up on the new kit and decided that the new clutch cover, being
> 10+mm higher in the centre than the old, was the likely culprit.
>
> It was indeed the culprit. Restoring the old cover cured the problem 100%=
.
>
> 6) I=E2=80=99d only swapped the clutch in the first place because I had t=
o remove
> the gearbox for an overdrive issue. On inspection the old clutch parts
> looked pretty good and, while you=E2=80=99re in there=E2=80=A6..
>
> However, new clutch feels better than the old which is good.
>
> 7) The supplier refunded me in full thus let me keep the plate and bearin=
g
> for free which was some compensation.
>
>
>
> Lightened flywheel by 14.5% off. Gives a nice feel. Not a huge difference
> but more responsive. I=E2=80=99m pleased with it.
>
>
>
> The overdrive pressure issue was solved by an uprated accumulator and
> other related bits.
>
> You may recall that the pump would not go back in, despite my best
> efforts? I thought I must be doing something wrong but gave up in the end
> and drove the OD and box up to OD Spares. Dave put in a new front casing =
as
> someone =E2=80=93 NOT me =E2=80=93 had used some =E2=80=9CPlastic Padding=
=E2=80=9D (JB Weld?) in the area
> at the top of the pump=E2=80=99s travel. I presume to reline a scored bor=
e. Anyhow,
> somehow or other, that stuff prevented my getting the pump back up the la=
st
> few mm. So, in effect, that half of the OD has been rebuilt.
>
> And it works!
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99d not had the car on the road until yesterday as I=E2=80=99d be=
en waiting for
> the return of my handbrake from the platers. That=E2=80=99s back in and l=
ooks much
> better than before. I even managed to adjust the handbrake cable as,
> miraculously, it was all greased and nothing was jammed on the threaded
> rod.
>
>
>
> What next?
>
> Simon
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Bob<div><br></div><div>The OD case can be damaged if effor=
t is applied to withdraw the pump without first removing the Non-return val=
ve. If the case is damaged it is very difficult to repair. How do I know th=
is?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 15:33, Bob=
Spidell via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@=
autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing-left:1ex">
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<div>
Last time I replaced a clutch one of the disk springs (dampers?) was
broken and, yes, this caused some judder.<br>
<br>
Glad you got your problems worked-out, Simon. I admire your
tenacity.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 11/29/2021 4:53 AM, m.g.sharp--- via
Healeys wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
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=20
=20
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon, so glad the clutch issue is behind
you.=C2=A0 You may recall from my clutch saga a few years ago tha=
t
the replacement parts I received were the issue, although in
my case it was the clutch disc.=C2=A0 So I think we must all be
wary of replacement clutches =E2=80=93 measure everything and com=
pare
old to new.=C2=A0 I am told there are companies that will re-face=
a
pressure plate.=C2=A0 Perhaps this is a better option, although o=
n
a high mileage item, weakened springs may be an issue.=C2=A0 I ha=
ve
never run across that myself.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So just get in and drive it!<u></u><u></u></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers, Mirek<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:no=
ne;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b>=
<span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank"><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Simon Lachlan via Healeys<br>
<b>Sent:</b> November 29, 2021 7:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Healeys' <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank"><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Update on clutch woes<u></u><u></=
u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I received a lot of hel=
p
and advice with regard to the clutch problem on my MkII BT7
for which, again, many thanks.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Here=E2=80=99s where we=
are:-<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">1) I replaced both
master and slave cylinders and even converted the former to
having an adjustable push rod which, mercifully, I did not
have to use. No change.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">2) I bled the system
more times than I=E2=80=99ve hot dinners, as they say. No chang=
e.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">3) I had the gearbox ou=
t
and back 3 - or was it 4? =E2=80=93 times. Centring that thing =
to a
nanomillimetere if there is such a thing. No change except
to blood pressure.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">4) I had fairly
fruitless discussions with the supplier who assured me that
=E2=80=9CNothing like this has happened before=E2=80=9D. No com=
ment will be
issued at this juncture as the lawyers say.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">5) I gave up on the new
kit and decided that the new clutch cover, being 10+mm
higher in the centre than the old, was the likely culprit.<u></=
u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">It was indeed the
culprit. Restoring the old cover cured the problem 100%.<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">6) I=E2=80=99d only swa=
pped the
clutch in the first place because I had to remove the
gearbox for an overdrive issue. On inspection the old clutch
parts looked pretty good and, while you=E2=80=99re in there=E2=
=80=A6..<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">However, new clutch
feels better than the old which is good.<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">7) The supplier refunde=
d
me in full thus let me keep the plate and bearing for free
which was some compensation.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Lightened flywheel by
14.5% off. Gives a nice feel. Not a huge difference but more
responsive. I=E2=80=99m pleased with it.<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The overdrive pressure
issue was solved by an uprated accumulator and other related
bits.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">You may recall that the
pump would not go back in, despite my best efforts? I
thought I must be doing something wrong but gave up in the
end and drove the OD and box up to OD Spares. Dave put in a
new front casing as someone =E2=80=93 NOT me =E2=80=93 had used=
some
=E2=80=9CPlastic Padding=E2=80=9D (JB Weld?) in the area at the=
top of the
pump=E2=80=99s travel. I presume to reline a scored bore. Anyho=
w,
somehow or other, that stuff prevented my getting the pump
back up the last few mm. So, in effect, that half of the OD
has been rebuilt.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">And it works!<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I=E2=80=99d not had the=
car on
the road until yesterday as I=E2=80=99d been waiting for the re=
turn
of my handbrake from the platers. That=E2=80=99s back in and lo=
oks
much better than before. I even managed to adjust the
handbrake cable as, miraculously, it was all greased and
nothing was jammed on the threaded rod. <u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">What next?<u></u><u></u=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Simon<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan><br>
</p>
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