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Simon-note #6 is key. The number on your gearbox. That is a very late=0A=
GB number in your photo. It appears that at some point your car=0Areceiv=
ed a replacement transmission as noted by the Gold Seal paint.=0AThis ap=
pears to be a BJ8 box. That would be why it has a nylon bush=0Aand it is=
working properly.=0AIf someone has swapped out the shift towers on the=
MKII GB to a BJ8=0Astyle, than that also would be an indicator of the n=
ylon bush use. If=0Aits working leave well enough alone is my suggestion=
, and note=0Asomewhere that you have a later GB, or tower, in an earlier=
car.=0ARegards, Hank=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------F=
rom:=0Asimon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com=0ATo: gradea1@charter.net=0ACc:=
=0ASent: Friday December 3 2021 1:00:08AM=0ASubject: RE: [Healeys] Cent=
re Change Gear Sticks=0A=0A=09Well, this is all very confusing=E2=80=A6.=
. =0A=0A=09You=E2=80=99ll recall that I started this particular hare run=
ning? =0A=0A=091) My car is a MkII BT7. =0A=0A=092) I only removed the s=
tick because I was going to have it rechromed.=0ANo problem with it mech=
anically, only that its appearance was very=0Aworn. =0A=0A=093) The stic=
k has roll pins and no indication that it ever had=0Aanything different.=
=0A=0A=094) I knew nothing about differing sticks, but reference to sup=
pliers=0Awebsites led me to expect a brass thingie underneath the stick.=
But, I=0Afound the nylon version. =0A=0A=095) There was no functional r=
eason to replace the stick ie it, with=0Aroll pins and nylon bush, had b=
een in situ during my tenure of 25+/-=0Ayears. And for how long before t=
hat?? When I had first gear and=0Areverse looked at by John Chatham=E2=
=80=99s 25 years ago they may have=0Aremoved the stick, but I expect not=
. =0A=0A=096) The box is a BMC Goldseal which is painted and, on the clu=
tch=0Abell-housing, tagged AEC 3554 which, I gather from my parts book,=
is a=0AMkII gearbox. However, I haven=E2=80=99t looked at the number on=
the gearbox=0Acover. =0A=0A=097) When I bought the car, it came with a=
=E2=80=9Cbox of bits=E2=80=9D. Inside=0Awas a bag, marked BJ8, which co=
ntained a nylon bush. For years I had=0Ano idea what that was!! =0A=0A=
=098) When I ordered a bush for my car as the old one had to be at least=
=0A25 years old, AH Spares sent me the nylon version. This was identical=
=0Ato the one from the =E2=80=9Cbox of bits=E2=80=9D. =0A=0A=09I have to=
say that I=E2=80=99m flummoxed. =0A=0A=09The Goldseal business may impl=
y that there was a run of boxes coming=0Aout of BMC which were a blend o=
f MkII and III. ie roll pins and nylon=0Abush??? =0A=0A=09When pondering=
all this, I remind myself that the nylon bush/roll pin=0Asetup worked f=
or at least 25 years, took me all over the place. Even=0Aover the Alps.=
And is working now. =0A=0A=09If you look at the Ahead4Healeys site, you=
=E2=80=99ll see that they list a=0Anylon alternative, GS 4051, for the s=
ide-shift brass bush, GS4050, and=0Athat nylon _LOOKS_ exactly like the=
one they list for the centre=0Achange box. They call this =E2=80=9Cfor=
BJ8=E2=80=9D and make no mention of MkIIs.=0A=0A=0A=09Any ideas? I=E2=
=80=99ll be taking out the tunnel etc when my new carpet kit=0Aarrives b=
ut I hate the idea of battling with that spring again. =0A=0A=09Simon=
=0A=0A=09FROM: gradea1@charter.net =0ASENT: 03 December 2021 05:37=0ATO=
: 'Michael Salter' =0ACC: 'Simon Lachlan' ; 'Healeys' =0ASUBJECT: Re: [H=
ealeys] Centre Change Gear Sticks =0A=0A=09Lets be careful here. We ha=
ve others who have been stuck in gear or=0Awithout gears. The nylon bush=
is ONLY USED ON THE BJ8. The brass bush=0Ais used on the MK II gearbox=
, which INCLUDES THE BJ7. The BJ7 is=0Aactually a MK II Healey. The shif=
t levers are different as well. Here=0Aare the numbers from the parts bo=
ok: =0A=0A=09BJ7 lever AEC8636, Bush-brass AEC 3520 (1 pr.) Circlip 1G3=
709- this=0Acomes as a set. Roll pins (2) AEA558. Circlip hold two halve=
s of bush=0Atogether. =0A=0A=09BJ8 lever 22B195-non/OD. Lever AEC3636=
w/OD. Lever Bush 22B191=0A(nylon). Roll Pin AEA558 This arrangement sta=
rts with: GB 101-118=0Awo/OD, 101-1441 w/OD =0A=0A=09What will happen=
if you use the nylon bush in the MKII GB, is that=0Aafter a few shifts=
the nylon will get mangled and there goes your=0Agears. =0A=0A=09MKII=
BRASS =0A=0A=09MKIII NYLON- DO NOT SUBSTITUTE. Hank =0A=0A=09--------=
--------------------------------- =0A=0A=09From: "Michael Salter via Hea=
leys"=0A To: "Simon Lachlan"=0A Cc: "Healeys"=0A Sent: Wednesday Decembe=
r 1 2021 5:46:06AM=0A Subject: Re: [Healeys] Centre Change Gear Sticks =
=0A=0A=09Pretty sure that the only change was the size of the ball upon=
which=0Athe nylon bush rotates HOWEVER there is a complication ... ther=
e are=0Anylon bushes, from an MGB as I recall, which can be used with th=
e=0Alever with the smaller ball end. =0A=0A=09M =0A=0A=09On Wed., Dec=
. 1, 2021, 8:21 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys, wrote: =0A =0A=0A=09H=
i, =0A=0A=09I have a late Mk II BT7. Centre change. So, my query is rega=
rding the=0Agearstick. =0A=0A=09The box is a BMC Goldseal replacement pe=
r the attached picture. =0A=0A=09The stick has the two roll pins securin=
g it which you=E2=80=99d expect up=0Ato BJ8s which, I gather, had screws=
. But the bush under the stick in=0Athe white nylon one which, I gather=
again, started with BJ8s. (To be=0Afair, I=E2=80=99ve looked into this=
and didn=E2=80=99t find a definitive answer on=0Athe bushes). My gearbo=
x seems to be a bit of a BT7/BJ8 mixture. =0A=0A=09My question is can yo=
u put a roll-pin gearstick into a BJ8? Or=0Avice-verca? =0A=0A=09Thanks,=
=0A=0A=09Simon =0A=0A=09 ______________________________________________=
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<html><body>Simon-note #6 is key. The number on your gearbox. =
; That is a very late GB number in your photo. It appears that at some p=
oint your car received a replacement transmission as noted by the Gold S=
eal paint. This appears to be a BJ8 box. That would be why it has a nylo=
n bush and it is working properly.<div><br></div><div>If someone has swa=
pped out the shift towers on the MKII GB to a BJ8 style, than that also=
would be an indicator of the nylon bush use. If its working leave well=
enough alone is my suggestion, and note somewhere that you have a later=
GB, or tower, in an earlier car. Regards, Hank<br><br><div class=3D"rep=
ly-new-signature"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>=
From: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com<br>To: gradea1@charter.net<br>Cc=
: <br>Sent: Friday December 3 2021 1:00:08AM<br>Subject: RE: [Healeys] C=
entre Change Gear Sticks<br><br>=0A<div class=3D"WordSection1">=0A<p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Well,=0Athis is all very confusing=E2=80=A6..</sp=
an></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>You=E2=80=99ll recall that I star=
ted this=0Aparticular hare running?</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span>1) My=0Acar is a MkII BT7.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an>2) I=0Aonly removed the stick because I was going to have it rechrome=
d. No=0Aproblem with it mechanically, only that its appearance was very=
=0Aworn.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>3)=0AThe stick has ro=
ll pins and no indication that it ever had anything=0Adifferent.</span><=
/p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>4) I=0Aknew nothing about differing s=
ticks, but reference to suppliers=0Awebsites led me to expect a brass th=
ingie underneath the stick.=0ABut, I found the nylon version.</span></p>=
=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>5)=0AThere was no functional reason to r=
eplace the stick ie it, with=0Aroll pins and nylon bush, had been in sit=
u during my tenure of=0A25+/- years. And for how long before that?? When=
I had first gear=0Aand reverse looked at by John Chatham=E2=80=99s 25 y=
ears ago they may have=0Aremoved the stick, but I expect not.</span></p>=
=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>6)=0AThe box is a BMC Goldseal which is=
painted and, on the clutch=0Abell-housing, tagged AEC 3554 which,=
I gather from my parts=0Abook, is a MkII gearbox. However, I haven=E2=
=80=99t looked at the number on=0Athe gearbox cover.</span></p>=0A<p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span>7)=0AWhen I bought the car, it came with a =E2=80=
=9Cbox of bits=E2=80=9D. Inside was a=0Abag, marked BJ8, which contained=
a nylon bush. For years I had no=0Aidea what that was!!</span></p>=0A<p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>8)=0AWhen I ordered a bush for my car as the=
old one had to be at least=0A25 years old, AH Spares sent me the nylon=
version. This was=0Aidentical to the one from the =E2=80=9Cbox of bits=
=E2=80=9D.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I=0Ahave to say tha=
t I=E2=80=99m flummoxed.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>The=
=0AGoldseal business may imply that there was a run of boxes coming=0Aou=
t of BMC which were a blend of MkII and III. ie roll pins and=0Anylon bu=
sh???</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>When=0Apondering all thi=
s, I remind myself that the nylon bush/roll pin=0Asetup worked for at le=
ast 25 years, took me all over the=0Aplace. Even over the Alps. An=
d is working now.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>If=0Ayou loo=
k at the Ahead4Healeys site, you=E2=80=99ll see that they list a=0Anylon=
alternative, GS 4051, for the side-shift brass bush, GS4050,=0Aand that=
nylon <b><i>looks</i></b> exactly like the one they list=0Afor the cent=
re change box. They call this =E2=80=9Cfor BJ8=E2=80=9D and make no=0Ame=
ntion of MkIIs.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Any=0Aideas? I=
=E2=80=99ll be taking out the tunnel etc when my new carpet kit=0Aarrive=
s but I hate the idea of battling with that spring=0Aagain.</span></p>=
=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span> </span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span> </span></=
p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>=0A<div>=0A<div style=
=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;">=
=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"en-us">From:</span></b>=0A<sp=
an lang=3D"en-us">gradea1@charter.net=0A<gradea1@charter.net><br><=
b>Sent:</b> 03 December 2021 05:37<br><b>To:</b> 'Michael Salter' <mi=
chaelsalter@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Simon Lachlan'=0A<simon.lach=
lan@alexarevel.plus.com>; 'Healeys'=0A<healeys@autox.team.net><=
br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Centre Change Gear Sticks</span></p>=0A=
</div>=0A</div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">Lets be careful here. We have others who have=0Abeen stuck in gear=
or without gears. The nylon bush is <b>only used=0Aon the BJ8. </b=
> The brass bush is used on the MK II gearbox,=0Awhich <b>includes the B=
J7.</b> The BJ7 is actually a MK II Healey.=0AThe shift levers are diffe=
rent as well. Here are the numbers from=0Athe parts book:</p>=0A<div>=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">BJ7 lever AEC8636, Bush-brass AEC 3520 (1 pr.)=0ACirclip 1G3709- thi=
s comes as a set. Roll pins (2) AEA558. Circlip=0Ahold two halves of bus=
h together.</p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=0A<=
/div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">BJ8 lever 22B195-non/OD. Lever AE=
C3636 w/OD.=0ALever Bush 22B191 (nylon). Roll Pin AEA558 This arrangemen=
t starts=0Awith: GB 101-118 wo/OD, 101-1441 w/OD</p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">What will happen if you use the nylon bush in=0Athe MKII GB, is that=
after a few shifts the nylon will get mangled=0Aand there goes your gea=
rs.</p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=0A</div>=0A=
<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>MKII Brass</b></p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;"><b>MKIII Nylon-=0Ad=
o not substitute.</b> Hank</p>=0A<p>------------------------------=
-----------</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;">F=
rom: "Michael=0ASalter via Healeys"<br>=0ATo: "Simon Lachlan"<br>=0ACc:=
"Healeys"<br>=0ASent: Wednesday December 1 2021 5:46:06AM<br>=0ASubject=
: Re: [Healeys] Centre Change Gear Sticks</p>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">Pretty sure that the only change was the size=0Aof the ball upon=
which the nylon bush rotates HOWEVER there=0Ais a complication&nb=
sp; ... there are nylon bushes, from an MGB as=0AI recall, which can be=
used with the lever with the smaller ball=0Aend.</p>=0A<div>=0A<p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">M</p=
>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=0A<div>=0A<div>=
=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed., Dec. 1, 2021, 8:21 a.m. Simon Lachlan=
=0Avia Healeys, <<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>>=0Awrote:</p>=0A</d=
iv>=0A<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1pt;pad=
ding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;">=0A<div>=0A<di=
v>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have a la=
te=0AMk II BT7. Centre change. So, my query is regarding the=0Agearstick=
.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The box is a=0ABMC Goldseal replacement p=
er the attached picture.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The stick has=0Ath=
e two roll pins securing it which you=E2=80=99d expect up to BJ8s which,=
=0AI gather, had screws. But the bush under the stick in the white=0Anyl=
on one which, I gather again, started with BJ8s. (To be fair,=0AI=E2=80=
=99ve looked into this and didn=E2=80=99t find a definitive answer on th=
e=0Abushes). My gearbox seems to be a bit of a BT7/BJ8 mixture.</p>=0A<p=
class=3D"MsoNormal">My question is=0Acan you put a roll-pin gearstick i=
nto a BJ8? Or vice-verca?</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>=0A<p=
class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=0A</d=
iv>=0A</div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;">=0A_=
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