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To: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor
From: Alan Seigrist via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2022 14:40:42 +0800
Cc: Alan Seigrist via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>, S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com>
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'Profiteering' is ALWAYS happening Ira.

Economically speaking, inflation is caused by demand/supply shocks &
printing money.

Best,

Alan

On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 2:31 PM i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com> wrote:

> Reason four
> Profiteering
> And yes it's happening
>
> Ira Erbs
> 1959 AH 100-6
> 1967 MGB
> Milwaukie, OR
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:25 PM Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Usually inflation is caused by one of three things:
>>
>>    1. having restricted supply,
>>    2. increased demand,
>>    3. government printing lots of money.
>>
>> Coming out of COVID we have the trifecta... so greed doesn't really
>> factor into it because you always have greed in good economies and bad
>> economies.  I won't get into the politics of why, just a 2-second econom=
ics
>> lesson.
>>
>> Incidentally my Econ 1 professor was Laura Tyson, who was President
>> Clinton's Chief Economic Advisor.  I got an A in her class =F0=9F=91=8D.=
  If you can
>> believe it I also had Janet Yellen, Secretary of the Treasury in busines=
s
>> school, reference point #3 above =F0=9F=98=89
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:44 PM i erbs via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Greed has no borders
>>>
>>> Ira Erbs
>>> 1959 AH 100-6
>>> 1967 MGB
>>> Milwaukie, OR
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 10:48 AM Ricchardd Mayor via Healeys <
>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My understanding is that today=E2=80=99s inflation is a worldwide phen=
omenon. I
>>>> hope this is not being political.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard Mayor
>>>> boyracer466@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys <
>>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics
>>>> here...
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Alan
>>>> Seigrist via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM
>>>> *To:* jomar healey <ah53@yahoo.com>
>>>> *Cc:* S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com>; healeys@autox.team.net =
<
>>>> healeys@autox.team.net>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor
>>>>
>>>> I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about
>>>> inflation.  =F0=9F=98=81
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys <
>>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices
>>>> tend to be higher and it came to about $600
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys =
<
>>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I migh=
t
>>>> just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine=
 shop
>>>> work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid see=
ms
>>>> reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider th=
em
>>>> the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind=
 I
>>>> supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings,  freeze plu=
gs,
>>>> etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the
>>>> engine.
>>>>
>>>> Clean and machine stock flywheel $140
>>>>
>>>> Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides,
>>>> resurface,  and assembly $510
>>>>
>>>> Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260
>>>>
>>>> Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580
>>>>
>>>> Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore
>>>> mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rea=
r
>>>> main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675
>>>>
>>>> I know this is a loaded question,  and really just curious if these
>>>> seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but =
then
>>>> again,  it's not a Chevy.
>>>> TY, Shawn
>>>>
>>>> The Millers
>>>>
>>>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a tes=
t
>>>> drive."
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&#39;Profiteering&#39; is ALWAYS happening Ira.=C2=A0 <br>=
<br>Economically speaking, inflation is caused by demand/supply shocks &amp=
; printing money.<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 2:31 PM i erbs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gm=
ail.com">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Reason four<div dir=3D"auto">=
Profiteering</div><div dir=3D"auto">And yes it&#39;s happening<br><br><div =
dir=3D"auto">Ira Erbs<br>1959 AH 100-6<br>1967 MGB<br>Milwaukie, OR</div></=
div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at=
tr">On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:25 PM Alan Seigrist &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:heale=
y.nut@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Usu=
ally inflation is caused by one of three things: <br><ol><li>having restric=
ted supply,</li><li>increased demand,</li><li>government printing lots of m=
oney.</li></ol><div>Coming out of COVID we have the trifecta... so greed do=
esn&#39;t really factor into it because you always have greed in good econo=
mies and bad economies.=C2=A0 I won&#39;t get into the politics of why, jus=
t a 2-second economics lesson.=C2=A0 <br><br>Incidentally my Econ 1 profess=
or was Laura Tyson, who was President Clinton&#39;s Chief=C2=A0Economic Adv=
isor.=C2=A0 I got an A in her class=C2=A0=F0=9F=91=8D.=C2=A0 If you can bel=
ieve it I also had Janet Yellen, Secretary of the Treasury in business scho=
ol, reference point #3 above=C2=A0=F0=9F=98=89</div><div><br></div><div>Che=
ers,</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:44 PM i e=
rbs via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Greed has n=
o borders<br><br><div>Ira Erbs<br>1959 AH 100-6<br>1967 MGB<br>Milwaukie, O=
R</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 10:48 AM Ricchardd Mayor via Healeys &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">he=
aleys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div>My understanding is that today=E2=80=99s inflation=
 is a worldwide phenomenon. I hope this is not being political.<div><br></d=
iv><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0<br><div>
Richard=C2=A0Mayor<br><a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noref=
errer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmail.com</a><br><br>

</div>
<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM=
 B LAWRENCE via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</div><br><div>



<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Good cal=
l Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics here...</div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-452361945880565067m_5137958597540010869gmail-m_-8473901=
913742464457m_-1977917248668674498divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"=
Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer"=
 target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Alan=
 Seigrist via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"=
noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> jomar healey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ah53@yahoo.com"; rel=3D"norefe=
rrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ah53@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> S and T Miller &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stmiller96@hotmail.com"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">stmiller96@hotmail.com</a>&gt;=
; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I guess I probably shouldn&#39;t make a political comment =
about inflation.=C2=A0=C2=A0=F0=9F=98=81
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:13px">
<div></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey whe=
re prices tend to be higher and it came to about $600</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Joe</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-452361945880565067m_5137958597540010869gmail-m_-8473901=
913742464457m_-1977917248668674498x_gmail-m_835940424409048426yahoo_quoted_=
9963725506">
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
<div>On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer"=
 target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-452361945880565067m_5137958597540010869gmail-m_-8473901=
913742464457m_-1977917248668674498x_gmail-m_835940424409048426yiv1570368679=
">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">It&#39;s=
 probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might just be=
 out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop work d=
one on a 100 engine and could you let
 me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I&#39;ve had work done at this pa=
rticular shop and consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn=
&#39;t questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guid=
es, cam bearings,=C2=A0 freeze plugs, etc.).
 Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I&#39;m assembling the engine.=
=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Clean an=
d machine stock flywheel $140</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Head- co=
ok, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface,=C2=A0 and=
 assembly $510</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Clean, M=
agna flux and resize rods $260</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Clean/ g=
rind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Block- c=
ook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore mains, instal=
l cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear main cap for rea=
r seal kit. $1,675</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">I know t=
his is a loaded question,=C2=A0 and really just curious if these seem a bit=
 inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again,=C2=
=A0 it&#39;s not a Chevy.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">TY, Shaw=
n</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
</div>
<div>The Millers<br>
=C2=A0<br>
&quot;Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a tes=
t drive.&quot;<br>
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