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Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor

To: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor
From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 23:44:50 -0700
Cc: Alan Seigrist via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>, S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com>
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Let's agree to disagree and get back to cars

Ira Erbs
1959 AH 100-6
1967 MGB
Milwaukie, OR

On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:40 PM Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com> wrote:

> 'Profiteering' is ALWAYS happening Ira.
>
> Economically speaking, inflation is caused by demand/supply shocks &
> printing money.
>
> Best,
>
> Alan
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 2:31 PM i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Reason four
>> Profiteering
>> And yes it's happening
>>
>> Ira Erbs
>> 1959 AH 100-6
>> 1967 MGB
>> Milwaukie, OR
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:25 PM Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>>
>>> Usually inflation is caused by one of three things:
>>>
>>>    1. having restricted supply,
>>>    2. increased demand,
>>>    3. government printing lots of money.
>>>
>>> Coming out of COVID we have the trifecta... so greed doesn't really
>>> factor into it because you always have greed in good economies and bad
>>> economies.  I won't get into the politics of why, just a 2-second econo=
mics
>>> lesson.
>>>
>>> Incidentally my Econ 1 professor was Laura Tyson, who was President
>>> Clinton's Chief Economic Advisor.  I got an A in her class =F0=9F=91=8D=
.  If you can
>>> believe it I also had Janet Yellen, Secretary of the Treasury in busine=
ss
>>> school, reference point #3 above =F0=9F=98=89
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:44 PM i erbs via Healeys <
>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greed has no borders
>>>>
>>>> Ira Erbs
>>>> 1959 AH 100-6
>>>> 1967 MGB
>>>> Milwaukie, OR
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 10:48 AM Ricchardd Mayor via Healeys <
>>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My understanding is that today=E2=80=99s inflation is a worldwide phe=
nomenon.
>>>>> I hope this is not being political.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Mayor
>>>>> boyracer466@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys <
>>>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics
>>>>> here...
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Alan
>>>>> Seigrist via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM
>>>>> *To:* jomar healey <ah53@yahoo.com>
>>>>> *Cc:* S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com>; healeys@autox.team.net
>>>>> <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about
>>>>> inflation.  =F0=9F=98=81
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys <
>>>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices
>>>>> tend to be higher and it came to about $600
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys=
 <
>>>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I
>>>>> might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had
>>>>> machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if w=
hat I
>>>>> paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and
>>>>> consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questione=
d.
>>>>> Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam beari=
ngs,
>>>>> freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm
>>>>> assembling the engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clean and machine stock flywheel $140
>>>>>
>>>>> Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides,
>>>>> resurface,  and assembly $510
>>>>>
>>>>> Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260
>>>>>
>>>>> Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580
>>>>>
>>>>> Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore
>>>>> mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off re=
ar
>>>>> main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675
>>>>>
>>>>> I know this is a loaded question,  and really just curious if these
>>>>> seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but=
 then
>>>>> again,  it's not a Chevy.
>>>>> TY, Shawn
>>>>>
>>>>> The Millers
>>>>>
>>>>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a
>>>>> test drive."
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Let&#39;s agree to disagree and get bac=
k to cars<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Ira Erbs<br>1959 A=
H 100-6<br>1967 MGB<br>Milwaukie, OR</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:40 PM Ala=
n Seigrist &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noreferrer">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">&#39;Profiteering&#39; is ALWAYS happeni=
ng Ira.=C2=A0 <br><br>Economically speaking, inflation is caused by demand/=
supply shocks &amp; printing money.<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Alan</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 2:31 PM i erbs &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:eyera3000@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Reason four<div dir=3D"auto">Profiteer=
ing</div><div dir=3D"auto">And yes it&#39;s happening<br><br><div dir=3D"au=
to">Ira Erbs<br>1959 AH 100-6<br>1967 MGB<br>Milwaukie, OR</div></div></div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Th=
u, Apr 7, 2022, 11:25 PM Alan Seigrist &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gma=
il.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healey.nut@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Usually inflation is caused by one of three things: <br><=
ol><li>having restricted supply,</li><li>increased demand,</li><li>governme=
nt printing lots of money.</li></ol><div>Coming out of COVID we have the tr=
ifecta... so greed doesn&#39;t really factor into it because you always hav=
e greed in good economies and bad economies.=C2=A0 I won&#39;t get into the=
 politics of why, just a 2-second economics lesson.=C2=A0 <br><br>Incidenta=
lly my Econ 1 professor was Laura Tyson, who was President Clinton&#39;s Ch=
ief=C2=A0Economic Advisor.=C2=A0 I got an A in her class=C2=A0=F0=9F=91=8D.=
=C2=A0 If you can believe it I also had Janet Yellen, Secretary of the Trea=
sury in business school, reference point #3 above=C2=A0=F0=9F=98=89</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 8,=
 2022 at 12:44 PM i erbs via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.te=
am.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Greed has no borders<br><br><div>Ira Erbs<b=
r>1959 AH 100-6<br>1967 MGB<br>Milwaukie, OR</div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 10:4=
8 AM Ricchardd Mayor via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.n=
et" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div>My understanding is that today=E2=80=99s inflation is a wor=
ldwide phenomenon. I hope this is not being political.<div><br></div><div>=
=C2=A0=C2=A0<br><div>
Richard=C2=A0Mayor<br><a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noref=
errer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmail=
.com</a><br><br>

</div>
<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM=
 B LAWRENCE via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div>



<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Good cal=
l Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics here...</div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"m_-7107698479639576590m_2049400342489456180gmail-m_-452361945880=
565067m_5137958597540010869gmail-m_-8473901913742464457m_-19779172486686744=
98divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@au=
tox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Alan Seigrist =
via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer=
 noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net=
</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> jomar healey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ah53@yahoo.com"; rel=3D"norefe=
rrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ah53@yahoo.com</a>=
&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> S and T Miller &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stmiller96@hotmail.com"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">stmiller=
96@hotmail.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"no=
referrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.=
team.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferre=
r noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.ne=
t</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I guess I probably shouldn&#39;t make a political comment =
about inflation.=C2=A0=C2=A0=F0=9F=98=81
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer no=
referrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:13px">
<div></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey whe=
re prices tend to be higher and it came to about $600</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Joe</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div id=3D"m_-7107698479639576590m_2049400342489456180gmail-m_-452361945880=
565067m_5137958597540010869gmail-m_-8473901913742464457m_-19779172486686744=
98x_gmail-m_835940424409048426yahoo_quoted_9963725506">
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
<div>On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer =
noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wro=
te:
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"m_-7107698479639576590m_2049400342489456180gmail-m_-452361945880=
565067m_5137958597540010869gmail-m_-8473901913742464457m_-19779172486686744=
98x_gmail-m_835940424409048426yiv1570368679">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">It&#39;s=
 probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might just be=
 out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop work d=
one on a 100 engine and could you let
 me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I&#39;ve had work done at this pa=
rticular shop and consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn=
&#39;t questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guid=
es, cam bearings,=C2=A0 freeze plugs, etc.).
 Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I&#39;m assembling the engine.=
=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Clean an=
d machine stock flywheel $140</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Head- co=
ok, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface,=C2=A0 and=
 assembly $510</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Clean, M=
agna flux and resize rods $260</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Clean/ g=
rind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Block- c=
ook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore mains, instal=
l cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear main cap for rea=
r seal kit. $1,675</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">I know t=
his is a loaded question,=C2=A0 and really just curious if these seem a bit=
 inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again,=C2=
=A0 it&#39;s not a Chevy.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">TY, Shaw=
n</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
</div>
<div>The Millers<br>
=C2=A0<br>
&quot;Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a tes=
t drive.&quot;<br>
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