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I had a front end mishap when I first got my BJ7 in 74. I found a
replacement shroud in perfect condition and gave it to him in lieu of
trying to straighten out the old one.
Well, some months later I went to pick up the car and it wasn't until I got
home that I noticed a very slight difference in the spaces between the
right and left doors and the shroud. After looking closely at the shroud
from the inside I realized they had cut the right half off of each
shroud and welded the new to the old and the measurements were off.
The place was such a nightmare to deal with I just said the hell with it
and kept it that way. I'm not a body guy (obviously) but what the hell
were they thinking?
Probably not relevant to this thread but thought I'd share it.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 4:59=E2=80=AFPM JSARCH <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net> wrot=
e:
> Joe, good advice from Al. When I turned my 1962 BT7 over to the shop for
> body work and painting the shrouds, boot lid, bonnet, wings and doors wer=
e
> attached to ensure fit before painting.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John Spaur
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Al Fuller
> *Sent:* Monday, September 1, 2025 12:37 PM
> *To:* joe mulqueen <joemulqueen@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* AH Mail List <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs
>
>
>
> Joe, good luck on your project - it sounds like you have made a good
> start. One thing does come to mind based on what happened when I built my
> 'basket case' BJ-8.
>
>
>
> The body guy insisted the doors and fenders needed substantial work, but
> the frame builder said all the panels were fitted and tuned before it lef=
t
> there (years prior).
>
>
>
> It turned out there were slight differences in the hinges. The frame
> builder had stamped them with positions, but the car arrived at the body
> shop with scrambled hinges. My takeaway is to ensure it all fits before
> moving forward.
>
>
>
> Good luck and enjoy the journey!
>
>
>
> ________________
> Sent from my phone
> Best Regards,
> Al Fuller
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2025, 12:18=E2=80=AFAM joe mulqueen via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Hello All, I'm a 20 year lurker, with thousands of unread digest emails
> because of marriage, kids, and other life issues (ha ha....I think it was
> worth it!) Things got so bad I almost forgot that I had a BT7 left in
> storage in Southern CA, while I had been living in Northern CA The car
> was a wreck when I got it, and it needed alot of structural and body
> repair. I worked on it up to a refreshed rolling chassis status before
> putting it away. But now today it's at a paint shop in Los Angeles, with=
a
> guy that has done 9 other Healeys before mine. I'm jazzed I got a time
> slot with him.
>
>
>
> There are some issues though. I live 350 miles away up in Santa Clara
> (Northern CA) so can only get down there every few wks...but I do have a
> Healey friend who knows the guy and is checking in and taking pics. Also
> decided I will install the engine after the paint job...and after I bring
> the car up North...I wrangled over these logistics along time.
>
>
>
> When the rough repairs were done 25 yrs ago, all body parts were stripped=
,
> fixed, and check fitted. The current body/paint guy is tyding up the
> shrouds and will paint all under surfaces, then hang for outer finish and
> paint. When done, I will own the final fit and even the final fit of the
> shrouds. I'm planning to install the engine and ducting with the painted
> shroud lifted off the car. That's my assumption...Is that possible if
> careful?
>
>
>
> Also, any referals for a engine machine shop preferably in Northern CA? =
I
> have the engine in my garage all stripped down..
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe M
>
> Santa Clara
>
> 60 BT7
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I had a front end mishap when I first got my BJ7 in 74.=C2=
=A0 I found a replacement shroud in perfect condition and gave it to him in=
lieu of trying to straighten out the old one.<div><br></div><div>Well, som=
e months later I went to pick up the car and it wasn't until I got home=
that I noticed a very slight difference in the spaces between the right=C2=
=A0and left doors and the shroud. After looking closely=C2=A0at the shroud =
from the inside I realized they had cut the right half off of each shroud=
=C2=A0and welded=C2=A0the new to the old and the=C2=A0=C2=A0measurements=C2=
=A0were off.</div><div><br></div><div>The place was such a nightmare to dea=
l with I just said the hell with it and kept it that way.=C2=A0 I'm not=
a body guy (obviously) but what the hell were they thinking?</div><div><br=
></div><div>Probably not relevant to this thread but thought I'd share =
it.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 4:59=E2=80=AFPM JSARC=
H <<a href=3D"mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net">jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div =
class=3D"msg-5735720502002118395"><div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"overflow-wra=
p: break-word;"><div class=3D"m_-5735720502002118395WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif=
">Joe, good advice from Al. When I turned my 1962 BT7 over to the shop for =
body work and painting the shrouds, boot lid, bonnet, wings and doors were =
attached to ensure fit before painting. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">John Spaur<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:n=
one;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"=
>From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-ser=
if"> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target=
=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Al F=
uller<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 1, 2025 12:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> joe =
mulqueen <<a href=3D"mailto:joemulqueen@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">joe=
mulqueen@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> AH Mail List <<a href=3D"mailto=
:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><b=
r><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] BT7 Restoration Restart after 20 Yrs<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Joe, good luck on your project - it sounds lik=
e you have made a good start. One thing does come to mind based on what hap=
pened when I built my 'basket case' BJ-8.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">The body guy insisted the doors and fenders needed substanti=
al work, but the frame builder said all the panels were fitted and tuned be=
fore it left there (years prior).=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=
t turned out there were slight differences in the hinges. The frame builder=
had stamped them with positions, but the car arrived at the body shop with=
scrambled hinges. My takeaway is to ensure it all fits before moving forwa=
rd.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Good luck and enjoy the journey!<u></=
u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">________________<br>Sent from my phone <br>Be=
st Regards,<br>Al Fuller<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Sep 1, 2=
025, 12:18<span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">=E2=80=AF</span>AM j=
oe mulqueen via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" targe=
t=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><=
blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;bo=
rder-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.=
8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Hello All, I'm a 20 year lu=
rker, with thousands of unread digest emails because of marriage, kids, and=
other life issues (ha ha....I think it was worth it!)=C2=A0 Things got so =
bad I almost forgot that I had a BT7 left in storage in Southern CA, while =
I had been living in Northern CA=C2=A0 =C2=A0The car was a wreck when I got=
it, and it needed alot of structural and body repair.=C2=A0 I worked on it=
up to a refreshed rolling chassis status before putting it away.=C2=A0 But=
now today it's at a paint shop in Los Angeles, with a guy that has don=
e 9 other Healeys before mine.=C2=A0 I'm jazzed I got a time slot with =
him.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif=
">There are some issues though.=C2=A0 I live 350 miles away up in Santa Cla=
ra (Northern CA) so can only get down there every few wks...but I do have a=
Healey friend who knows the guy and is checking in and taking pics.=C2=A0 =
Also decided I will install the engine after the paint job...and after I br=
ing the car up North...I wrangled over these logistics along time.<u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:Helvetica,sans-serif">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">When the ro=
ugh repairs were done 25 yrs ago, all body parts were stripped, fixed, and =
check fitted.=C2=A0 The current body/paint guy is tyding up the shrouds and=
will paint all under surfaces, then hang for outer finish and paint.=C2=A0=
When done, I will own the final fit and even the final fit of the shrouds.=
=C2=A0 I'm planning to install the engine and ducting with the painted =
shroud lifted off the car.=C2=A0 That's my assumption...Is that possibl=
e if careful?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sa=
ns-serif">Also, any referals for a engine machine shop preferably in Northe=
rn CA?=C2=A0 I have the engine in my garage all stripped down..<u></u><u></=
u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:H=
elvetica,sans-serif">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Joe M<u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Helvetica,sans-serif">Santa Clara<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">60 B=
T7<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div>=
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